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[Wiwo]

Well, you are right, the absence of the owner of bitvest on this thread  (his own thread) is not an issue to focus on though, but I just feel that a casino that very much depended on this forum for publicity by its owner, and suddenly, the owner disappears with no statement of any kind, or putting another in charge to continue to maintain the thread, I feel that such casino could be a timed bomb waiting to explode.
What if by tomorrow, the casino website is no longer accessible to everyone, and you have money in there, who are you going to reach out to to know what's going on.?

The fact we can't deny is that,  Bedvist and its sister casino have had a long run of publicity and brand marketing in the last few years back and that marketing strategy has pushed in a lot of players to both casinos and their community base is well-structured enough that even though they don't make any further brand marketing, there can continue with businesses for as long as their want.

But it is also better to have an active community-oriented platform compared to a close community with now recorded activities from both team and players alike.

[Slow death]

To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding..
And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.

Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site.
I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine.
Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players).

what I could notice is that to be able to see the chat the person needs to log in to the casino, as I don't remember my login details so I couldn't see the chat, but even so I would say that people shouldn't exaggerate in putting big amounts of money in this casino, this is because in the past the OP has not behaved well at some point, but of course people can change their behavior and do good again, but unfortunately with the absence of OP it is very difficult to see if he changed or not, this is the big question, if OP doesn't enter the forum for a long time, there's no way for someone to prove that he still owns the casino, we have to think of the following way:

a casino is a big business, so a casino gives profit to the owner of the casino, let's think as if we were owners of a casino, someone here owning a casino (a big business) would stay away from contact with their customers knowing that Is there a lot of competition in this market? think about it, does it make sense for someone who owns a casino to stay away from his customers? stay 7 months missing? And someone will still think that this is normal? i think its not normal, something might have happened to him, nobody wants to be away from their customers, i just hope people play it safe

[livingfree]

People been making out some discussions about its owner who hadnt been that active on their own ANN thread. Wait? Is this really an issue to put focused on?

For some, it's a big thing to focused on when there's their thread that used to be active before but no longer active anymore today.

As long as the site is running, complaints are taken through their ticket and they're catered one by one I guess it's all good. We don't usually see those complaints here anymore about the ticking and drying balance.

And to those loyal players of bitvest, they're not even complaining so there's no issue that needs to talk about if it's just concerning about its owner's presence from the forum.

[pawel7777]

/snip/ and suddenly, the owner disappears with no statement of any kind, or putting another in charge to continue to maintain the thread, I feel that such casino could be a timed bomb waiting to explode.

Why would you assume he disappeared? Just because he's not active on bitcointalk? The customer service is responding, and I don't imagine a small site would hire any staff to answer customer service queries, so it's likely LL is responding himself.

Admins being active here do not make your funds any safer. Unless you're concerned that LL might be dead and the access to the cold wallet is lost forever - but that's a pretty wild conclusion based only on a fact that he's not posting here anymore.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

/snip/ and suddenly, the owner disappears with no statement of any kind, or putting another in charge to continue to maintain the thread, I feel that such casino could be a timed bomb waiting to explode.

Why would you assume he disappeared? Just because he's not active on bitcointalk? The customer service is responding, and I don't imagine a small site would hire any staff to answer customer service queries, so it's likely LL is responding himself.

When an important figure on this forum stops posting on this forum, without any word or explanation, or even a message to customers as a business owner who started off on this forum,  it is indifferent to say that such a person disappeared, he clearly disappeared, and I do not agree that it could be LL replying to customer's enquiry, if he is the one, what stops him from atleast, saying a word on this thread?.

Admins being active here do not make your funds any safer. Unless you're concerned that LL might be dead and the access to the cold wallet is lost forever - but that's a pretty wild conclusion based only on a fact that he's not posting here anymore.

I agree with you that Admin being active does not make funds any safer, true that indeed, but then, your further comment is also a testament and very possible, which is why I said bitvest is like a timed bomb waiting to explode.

[pawel7777]

When an important figure on this forum stops posting on this forum, without any word or explanation, or even a message to customers as a business owner who started off on this forum,  it is indifferent to say that such a person disappeared, he clearly disappeared, and I do not agree that it could be LL replying to customer's enquiry, if he is the one, what stops him from atleast, saying a word on this thread?.

Sure, if he/they made a conscious decision that they will no longer be active on this forum (for whatever reason) - it would be nice to let people know. But the way it usually works is people are moving away to other things naturally. There are plenty of prominent members that are no longer active but are still alive. I myself had a few years break from this forum but never intended to, it just happened.
And if you consider that LL stopped being active not too long after the (fully deserved) scam accusation drama - then it's no surprise that he might no longer find this place enjoyable.

And if the hot wallets get refilled when needed (even if sometimes with delay), that means that there is someone out there with access to funds, so it's not like the site is abandoned and operates o auto-pilot.

your further comment is also a testament and very possible, which is why I said bitvest is like a timed bomb waiting to explode.

Don't you think that declaring someone very possibly dead, just by virtue of them not posting on some forum is a bit out of line?

[Lanatsa]

People been making out some discussions about its owner who hadnt been that active on their own ANN thread. Wait? Is this really an issue to put focused on?

For some, it's a big thing to focused on when there's their thread that used to be active before but no longer active anymore today.

As long as the site is running, complaints are taken through their ticket and they're catered one by one I guess it's all good. We don't usually see those complaints here anymore about the ticking and drying balance.

And to those loyal players of bitvest, they're not even complaining so there's no issue that needs to talk about if it's just concerning about its owner's presence from the forum.

Some are indeed really making these things to be that big deal on which even this is really just not a major thing to be talked or concerned about because its not their right to be everytime to be present of this
forum which we know that we do have our own personal lives to be taken care off, what if he had just chosen not to be that active on this forum but eventually do make out that casual handling or management
of his own business in silent?

It is really just that people do really loves to asked out something and they do want to people to be that obliged on doing so.Its true that we are already not seeing any complains of this thread,
which mostly of the discussion is really that pertaining about Lightlors abscence of this forum rather than about on the sites performance or operational aspect.
People do really loves to push up on things on what they do prefer as always. We cant have it all as we do all know.

[Wiwo]

It is really just that people do really loves to asked out something and they do want to people to be that obliged on doing so.Its true that we are already not seeing any complains of this thread,
which mostly of the discussion is really that pertaining about Lightlors abscence of this forum rather than about on the sites performance or operational aspect.
People do really loves to push up on things on what they do prefer as always. We cant have it all as we do all know.

Well, that is one of the reasons why they left this thread open,  I think it is a deliberate action by the casino owner haven't been a long-time member of this forum,  and knows how things work here,  he left the thread open so the casino can receive a constant bump from one or two divisions that may go on in here.

At least at this point,  the casino and its owner are reviving the necessary bumping of their thread and keeping them on the first page on the board,  who knows,  this is another way to get free promotions here.

[Lanatsa]

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Well, that is one of the reasons why they left this thread open,  I think it is a deliberate action by the casino owner haven't been a long-time member of this forum,  and knows how things work here,  he left the thread open so the casino can receive a constant bump from one or two divisions that may go on in here.

At least at this point,  the casino and its owner are reviving the necessary bumping of their thread and keeping them on the first page on the board,  who knows,  this is another way to get free promotions here.

Yeah, i got your point on which this is a free bumping of their ANN thread (Opps i did it again)
As long it isnt locked neither by OP itself or with some Mod then it would continously be able to get that kind of discussion and responses in certain things, whether be talking about issues
and its appearance here on this forum which turns out that it is already that repetitive or something not really that having no sense already on discussing on.

@ALL, can we just stopped about Lightlords abscence and making this thread to be inactive and only be just used on posting up some issues or complaints about the
site specially into those real users of the platform? There's no point on making further discussions on something that connects about assumptions which we dont
know if its true or not.

[Wiwo]

@ALL, can we just stopped about Lightlords abscence and making this thread to be inactive and only be just used on posting up some issues or complaints about the
site specially into those real users of the platform? There's no point on making further discussions on something that connects about assumptions which we dont
know if it's true or not.

The thing is that Lightlord could have made it easier to have lucked this thread before his long exit from this forum just as games casino did by licking their ANN thread,  that way only the accusation board could be used to draw their attention.

But in this case,  the ANN is left open to give room for cans of spam just to get publicity and just like you have said,  the best solution to this is that everyone should have a total discontinuation of any discussion in this thread pending till when it gets trashed some days in the future.

So this will be my last comment on this thread for a long time unless things change positively in here.

[arwin100]

@ALL, can we just stopped about Lightlords abscence and making this thread to be inactive and only be just used on posting up some issues or complaints about the
site specially into those real users of the platform? There's no point on making further discussions on something that connects about assumptions which we dont
know if it's true or not.

The thing is that Lightlord could have made it easier to have lucked this thread before his long exit from this forum just as games casino did by licking their ANN thread,  that way only the accusation board could be used to draw their attention.

But in this case,  the ANN is left open to give room for cans of spam just to get publicity and just like you have said,  the best solution to this is that everyone should have a total discontinuation of any discussion in this thread pending till when it gets trashed some days in the future.

So this will be my last comment on this thread for a long time unless things change positively in here.

Not also good to lock it while their casino operation still running since there existing gamblers can't go anywhere if there's something wrong will happen to their casino. So best to leave it open and let the discussion flow if there's important topic needs to discuss.

Sometimes accusation board is not enough since there are users  doesn't check that section. And its good if there's someone will bump this thread so that those people who stay at gambling board could read up the contents of this thread then see if there's something need to avoid or not.

[Lanatsa]

@ALL, can we just stopped about Lightlords abscence and making this thread to be inactive and only be just used on posting up some issues or complaints about the
site specially into those real users of the platform? There's no point on making further discussions on something that connects about assumptions which we dont
know if it's true or not.

The thing is that Lightlord could have made it easier to have lucked this thread before his long exit from this forum just as games casino did by licking their ANN thread,  that way only the accusation board could be used to draw their attention.

But in this case,  the ANN is left open to give room for cans of spam just to get publicity and just like you have said,  the best solution to this is that everyone should have a total discontinuation of any discussion in this thread pending till when it gets trashed some days in the future.

So this will be my last comment on this thread for a long time unless things change positively in here.

Not also good to lock it while their casino operation still running since there existing gamblers can't go anywhere if there's something wrong will happen to their casino. So best to leave it open and let the discussion flow if there's important topic needs to discuss.

Sometimes accusation board is not enough since there are users  doesn't check that section. And its good if there's someone will bump this thread so that those people who stay at gambling board could read up the contents of this thread then see if there's something need to avoid or not.

Well you do have a point on which locking this thread would really be that might be hindering people to post up their complaints but we know that each site does have their own social media and other
mediums which you could contact to them in regarding your issues and complaints.This isnt the only place on where users could make out complaints but having this ANN thread open isnt bad either.
Just like on what Wiwo said above then this would be also my last post of this thread to avoid further bumps unless if there would be some new updates or announcement.
There's no point on bumping up this thread but its something that cant be avoided on people to keep on posting up this thread.

[peter0425]

LTC hot wallet empty 2 times this week. couldn't WD.


i am done with Bitvest. total bullshir. only gambling site with empty hot wallets

This is bad to hear, I just can imagine after playing and winning at a casino and the point of withdrawal you are told that the liquidity pool is empty to pay your winning, thos is the worst experience for anyone and this situation has been consistent on this casino since the owner chooses to run the casino manually.

Things are changing and if Lighdlord continues this way, it won't take long before the casino will close down due to no patronage unless for his family and friends.

To be honest with you, I see no reason why people are still gambling on this casino, owning to the fact that lightlord stopped posting on this forum quite a long time ago, and there is currently no known representative on here, just incase a customer's encounters a problem and support isn't responding..
And again, there are currently many online casinos on this forum to choose from, I can't really understand the logic as to what still drives some people to gamble on a casino that looks like it's dying.

How do you know that withdrawal is been pending out? There are people who do actually play on the site doesnt experience out this problem.
How did you know that their support isnt responding? Some people been saying that it do just work fine and still that making out some response.

Bare in mind that having no activity or response on their ANN thread doesnt mean that it would be similarly be reflecting out into their website. Most cases people do really love to
attach things and would be making out some conclusions without having that actual dealing or experience on what they do have current now.

Lightlords absence doesnt mean that it is really over for Bitvest. They are still operation and there are still rolls or bets had been made out which it significantly showing
that it is really just working fine despite of its owners absence or whatsoever.

there is no need for Him to answer you mate , because the post on top that you quoted already mentioned that their Hot Wallet is again emptied , meaning once again the problem or issues from bitvest is still the same ,
If I remember this right , this has been the problem same as how lightlord is not filling the payments for the campaign participants reason why he has been tagged for showing no concern about His obligation ,
and yes this is it again.
I must know this because once I have worked with 777coin for years and yes , my experience about payment is not that good.
so this means His absence here in forum really affect how he managed the sites.
because we can see that players mostly posts here once they have bad experiences in any sites that has active thread here in bitcointalk.

Arent that signature payment issue hasnt been resolved it yet?

nah . you misunderstand my  point mate , what I was trying to tell here is that they have the issue about delaying in payments and also delaying in withdrawal(not having funds in Hot wallet) and that stands about them having problem in terms of releasing funds and a not so good attitude for a gambling site/operator.

Im once a signature participant of Bitvest but only just a few weeks and didnt have any problems but well those are in that early years where Bitvest and LL is really that still responsive on this forum.

sine you are only for few weeks , maybe your timing is when LL is still paying constantly and that is before they start doing it quarterly or even longer.

Im much aware about on what happened on when it comes to the point where even paying up their marketers or signature participants had been delayed. I wasnt aware if its been resolved or not, if ever there's still pending payments then it does really shows up some bad behavior or affecting out their reputation
in speaking about on how legit their business would be.

you are ware of what had happened so now I will clarify that their marketers are paid at least years ago.

Now that wallets are starting to get emptied then people who do play on that specific coin should really be stopping on playing on such coin specially if  the balance is depleting.
THere's no point on making out some complaints if their support system doesnt really even that giving some response.

it is not starting mate, because it has been happening for years now , they will refill and emptied again .

[dezoel]

Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site.
I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine.
Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players).

agree with you, bitvest has loyal players who are not easy to move to other gambling sites because they already feel comfortable playing at bitvest, even though I haven't been playing at bitvest for a long time but I have never had the slightest problem playing there

That is because bitvest is one of those old crypto casinos that are until now operating but many of their batch mates have already died. It is not easy because so many new casinos are coming out from time to time, offering something different.

This is why I respect this casino so much for staying strong in the industry also despite of the criticisms that they get from this forum, starting from the problems with their hot wallet to the delayed payments in signature campaign and from the inactivity of the op and his partner in crime. If we don't like bitvest then it would be better to just ignore this site and avoid making negative statements about them because the team itself is also silent and does not throw the same statement.

[ultrloa]

Simple answer, because they are loyal players who have been in Bitvest for long time so high possibility that they still trust the site.
I checked the chatroom, the activity is good enough and I do not find any complaint there means that everything is still running fine.
Lightlord is not active here anymore but it does not mean that there is no support in the website (I have not tried how fast is the current support in responding players).

agree with you, bitvest has loyal players who are not easy to move to other gambling sites because they already feel comfortable playing at bitvest, even though I haven't been playing at bitvest for a long time but I have never had the slightest problem playing there

That is because bitvest is one of those old crypto casinos that are until now operating but many of their batch mates have already died. It is not easy because so many new casinos are coming out from time to time, offering something different.

This is why I respect this casino so much for staying strong in the industry also despite of the criticisms that they get from this forum, starting from the problems with their hot wallet to the delayed payments in signature campaign and from the inactivity of the op and his partner in crime. If we don't like bitvest then it would be better to just ignore this site and avoid making negative statements about them because the team itself is also silent and does not throw the same statement.

But they are showing some errors and this is really annoying especially if you are the person encounter such problems here. They are old casino yeah but they didn't maintain there good ratings since by now many doubt about them since there hot wallets always got emptied and lightlord didn't take proper solution to this issues. And also they abandon this thread so many got annoyed for that since they don't know if they can still trust this casino or not.

[panjul07]

What if by tomorrow, the casino website is no longer accessible to everyone, and you have money in there, who are you going to reach out to to know what's going on.?

It may happen not only in Bitvest, it may even happen to casino with an active representative in this forum and the worst case (site turn to a scam) is that you may not even able to reach the representative although they are still active in this forum.
This is why it is always recommended to players to not hold money in a casino's account for long time.
Once we done with our gambling session, better to withdraw it but if anyone want to hold some, it is better to hold not big amount of money.
The most important thing for us as gambler is that we should have a mindset that we are the first one who responsible to what we do.

[pawel7777]

@ALL, can we just stopped about Lightlords abscence and making this thread to be inactive and only be just used on posting up some issues or complaints about the
site specially into those real users of the platform? There's no point on making further discussions on something that connects about assumptions which we dont
know if its true or not.

Why though? I agree that repeating the same (unconfirmed) assumptions over and over again is not very helpful and frankly pretty stupid, but why would you advocate for this thread to be inactive? If there's anything related to BitVest that anyone would like to share, that's fine. That's what threads and forums are for. It's not like we have to choose between the total shitposting and inactivity - there's a lot of room in between.

The thing is that Lightlord could have made it easier to have lucked this thread before his long exit from this forum (...)

Why would he lock the thread if he has potential of driving in new users. Even if the general tone is negative - any publicity is a good publicity. That's still better than being unknown.
It never fails to amuse me how people are spamming just to say that others are spamming. You don't want a thread to be bumped? Just don't post here and/or unwatch it. It's that simple. There's no need to announce it.

[gamblingbad]

have problem with login , what email i can send to for help for login?

[Bitinity]

have problem with login , what email i can send to for help for login?

You can create a new account if you have a login issue with your old existing account so you can send them a support ticket.

Please log in on the homepage to submit tickets. You may create a new account for managing your ticket if desired.
You must create a full account with a username and password to submit tickets.

I cant find any official support email from Bitvest, maybe this is why they allow users to create a new account in order to get in touch with them since they do not reveal their contact publicly. The other way is to talk with moderators since they have the way to reach admins, but still in order to talk with moderators, login is required so new account is needed if you cant login with your account.

[noormcs5]

At least at this point,  the casino and its owner are reviving the necessary bumping of their thread and keeping them on the first page on the board,  who knows,  this is another way to get free promotions here.

I do not understand this opinion that if the casino owner keep his thread open, it is getting free promotion.

Any casino can have its ANN thread on the forum and may not have the signature campaign for its promotion. This is perfectly right. Also BITVEST is one of the oldest casino and there are many people who play at Bitvest regardless of the fact that there is no signature promotion for them.

I cant find any official support email from Bitvest, maybe this is why they allow users to create a new account in order to get in touch with them since they do not reveal their contact publicly. The other way is to talk with moderators since they have the way to reach admins, but still in order to talk with moderators, login is required so new account is needed if you cant login with your account.

Also since the bitvest admin is not active here, the only way to get the support is through their website moderators. Although it is quite wired to make a new account only to get in touch with the mods.