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November 13, 2016, 05:05:39 PM
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top wallet on bittrex 1.2mil has pulled coins off the exchange. maybe staking or new masternodes coming?

seen the potential and not prepared to sell tho.

no point holding coins on exchange as well you may as well be staking.
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November 13, 2016, 09:57:05 PM
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Ok, let me explain a bit, one of the main issues in the masternode voting, is when only a few vote, then the budget control becomes very centralised. Dash is experiencing this right now. We don't want to go there. But as pointed out, we have put some work into an announcement panel inside the wallet for direct communications. This particular subject isn't something we are rushing into, there will be a lot more research, and number crunching before a serious option can be considered, but saying this... something will need to be changed to get more to vote.

Also, there is an option to abstain during voting. You do not have to vote only yes/no

So please let us hear your ideas, and solutions.

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November 14, 2016, 12:29:37 AM
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Ok, let me explain a bit, one of the main issues in the masternode voting, is when only a few vote, then the budget control becomes very centralised. Dash is experiencing this right now. We don't want to go there. But as pointed out, we have put some work into an announcement panel inside the wallet for direct communications. This particular subject isn't something we are rushing into, there will be a lot more research, and number crunching before a serious option can be considered, but saying this... something will need to be changed to get more to vote.

Also, there is an option to abstain during voting. You do not have to vote only yes/no

So please let us hear your ideas, and solutions.

same old discussion over at Dash
i still belive you can not enforce voting
ether they do or they dont
it is the responsibility of the network / Mn's to vote
u could try to have a tip go out per vote
but i do not belive in that and would leave as is

There is a report from Charles ETC - IOHK on the Dash Treasury Model
interesting read - some mistakes in there (as based on old system)
https://iohk.io/research/library/#NSJ554WR

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November 14, 2016, 03:22:44 AM
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Ok, let me explain a bit, one of the main issues in the masternode voting, is when only a few vote, then the budget control becomes very centralised. Dash is experiencing this right now. We don't want to go there. But as pointed out, we have put some work into an announcement panel inside the wallet for direct communications. This particular subject isn't something we are rushing into, there will be a lot more research, and number crunching before a serious option can be considered, but saying this... something will need to be changed to get more to vote.

Also, there is an option to abstain during voting. You do not have to vote only yes/no

So please let us hear your ideas, and solutions.

same old discussion over at Dash
i still belive you can not enforce voting
ether they do or they dont
it is the responsibility of the network / Mn's to vote
u could try to have a tip go out per vote
but i do not belive in that and would leave as is

There is a report from Charles ETC - IOHK on the Dash Treasury Model
interesting read - some mistakes in there (as based on old system)
https://iohk.io/research/library/#NSJ554WR

I believe given enough financial incentive or penalty.. they will vote.
Extreme case scenario, 0 rewards for none voters, watch them all vote or drop like flies.
With MasterNode rewards, comes responsibilities. Just like an employee, you don't complete your responsibilities, you get (fired) no rewards.

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November 14, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked

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November 14, 2016, 05:08:23 AM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked

Dang. Was hoping more like 300-400 so I can buy a whole lot more cheap. Tongue

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November 14, 2016, 06:48:45 AM
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Ok, let me explain a bit, one of the main issues in the masternode voting, is when only a few vote, then the budget control becomes very centralised. Dash is experiencing this right now. We don't want to go there. But as pointed out, we have put some work into an announcement panel inside the wallet for direct communications. This particular subject isn't something we are rushing into, there will be a lot more research, and number crunching before a serious option can be considered, but saying this... something will need to be changed to get more to vote.

Also, there is an option to abstain during voting. You do not have to vote only yes/no

So please let us hear your ideas, and solutions.

same old discussion over at Dash
i still belive you can not enforce voting
ether they do or they dont
it is the responsibility of the network / Mn's to vote
u could try to have a tip go out per vote
but i do not belive in that and would leave as is

There is a report from Charles ETC - IOHK on the Dash Treasury Model
interesting read - some mistakes in there (as based on old system)
https://iohk.io/research/library/#NSJ554WR

I believe given enough financial incentive or penalty.. they will vote.
Extreme case scenario, 0 rewards for none voters, watch them all vote or drop like flies.
With MasterNode rewards, comes responsibilities. Just like an employee, you don't complete your responsibilities, you get (fired) no rewards.

sure
but what kind of 'democratic' system is that where u force people to be democratic and vote ?

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November 14, 2016, 07:57:48 AM
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Wow, thanks! Didn't expect this to happen.

BTW, i have same problem with zero masternode reward: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/DNET/tx.php?tx=649c6bda6cb2e49f0b3081c852f44097ee8b62697dacc28fb8bb5fea1f0db7d9

As for masternode voting, i think it's better to make in-wallet interface for voting with all your masternodes instead of forcing to vote.

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November 14, 2016, 08:20:17 AM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked

Dang. Was hoping more like 300-400 so I can buy a whole lot more cheap. Tongue

If it dips below 1000 it will soon shoot back up. Time to buy is now in this dip.
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November 14, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked

Dang. Was hoping more like 300-400 so I can buy a whole lot more cheap. Tongue

If it dips below 1000 it will soon shoot back up. Time to buy is now in this dip.

The closer to 1000 sat = the better risk reward = the more people will load up.

I think in a few weeks' /months' perspective it won't matter much if you bought at 800 sat or 2000 sat. With this small market cap the growth will be substantial anyway.

What's more, selling and rebuying substantial amounts is very hard. Even if one had dumped one week ago at let's say 1900 sat average, market rebuying a few hundred k would be more expensive now.

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November 14, 2016, 10:43:48 AM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked


What makes you think that?

Any word on getting this on polo?

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November 14, 2016, 01:58:32 PM
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I think price will be back to 500-600 satoshi. Shocked


What makes you think that?

Any word on getting this on polo?

Polo only going add us when there is volume so they can make some money, which there isn't atm. Once whitepaper is out for truly anonymous, expect to see a boost but until then just accumulate more.

I happy with the price atm for accumulating there is nothing really that makes us unique enough to warrant large investors. But the community is growing.
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November 14, 2016, 02:21:23 PM
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*****kokokoin CPAH0NXMCAXV0NO2DXLAUJWTUD is the WINNER!!*****


Wow, thanks! Didn't expect this to happen.

BTW, i have same problem with zero masternode reward: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/DNET/tx.php?tx=649c6bda6cb2e49f0b3081c852f44097ee8b62697dacc28fb8bb5fea1f0db7d9

As for masternode voting, i think it's better to make in-wallet interface for voting with all your masternodes instead of forcing to vote.

The zero masternode reward, is caused by not having the reward enforcement enabled.

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November 14, 2016, 03:05:13 PM
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*****kokokoin CPAH0NXMCAXV0NO2DXLAUJWTUD is the WINNER!!*****


Wow, thanks! Didn't expect this to happen.

BTW, i have same problem with zero masternode reward: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/DNET/tx.php?tx=649c6bda6cb2e49f0b3081c852f44097ee8b62697dacc28fb8bb5fea1f0db7d9

As for masternode voting, i think it's better to make in-wallet interface for voting with all your masternodes instead of forcing to vote.

The zero masternode reward, is caused by not having the reward enforcement enabled.

i had it couple of times. how does that work?

you changed the op title now to advertise Upcoming Trustless Truly Untraceable Anon. will there be a discussion of what this entails? whitepaper etc?
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November 14, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
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*****kokokoin CPAH0NXMCAXV0NO2DXLAUJWTUD is the WINNER!!*****


Wow, thanks! Didn't expect this to happen.

BTW, i have same problem with zero masternode reward: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/DNET/tx.php?tx=649c6bda6cb2e49f0b3081c852f44097ee8b62697dacc28fb8bb5fea1f0db7d9

As for masternode voting, i think it's better to make in-wallet interface for voting with all your masternodes instead of forcing to vote.

The zero masternode reward, is caused by not having the reward enforcement enabled.

i had it couple of times. how does that work?

you changed the op title now to advertise Upcoming Trustless Truly Untraceable Anon. will there be a discussion of what this entails? whitepaper etc?

It was changed as a request, Yes there will be discussion at some point, but as stated previously, we have a lot to do before that happens. We are not rushing into any implementation, we have a clear plan on what we want to do. We need more Dev's to speed up the process.

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November 14, 2016, 09:22:01 PM
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DNET Dev StakeBox has started working on the pull requests and few other enhancements:

In-wallet Bittrex Trading.
https://twitter.com/jakimanboy/status/796918176927780864

In-wallet Masternode Management
https://twitter.com/jakimanboy/status/796966185845882880

User editable wallet themes is currently being worked on as well.
So yeah, the devs are very active right now in the background.

Official Website is now online also!
http://darknet-crypto.com

This is great.

In wallet masternode management and anything to make the set up of masternodes a few clicks of work perhaps a couple of copy and pastes max on your vps would encourage more masternodes. The entire masternode set up needs to be made as simple and quick as possible.

The more coins in masternodes the greater the price the greater the interest in the coin.

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November 14, 2016, 09:24:19 PM
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any estimates on when you think the anon tech will be ready for test?
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November 14, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
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any estimates on when you think the anon tech will be ready for test?

I can't in good faith, give you estimates or Hype. When it is at a point it is ready, I assure you we will have an open invitation to participate.

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November 14, 2016, 10:01:48 PM
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Official Website is now online also!
http://darknet-crypto.com


I have 2 proposals for site design:
1. Background of top slider is transparent but the text shouldn't be transparent.
2. Dark-red text is hard to read on dark-grey background. It's better to change it to something more contrast.

Agreed. I can do a site redesign for a bounty Wink

DNET Dev StakeBox has started working on the pull requests and few other enhancements:

In-wallet Bittrex Trading.
https://twitter.com/jakimanboy/status/796918176927780864

In-wallet Masternode Management
https://twitter.com/jakimanboy/status/796966185845882880

User editable wallet themes is currently being worked on as well.
So yeah, the devs are very active right now in the background.

Official Website is now online also!
http://darknet-crypto.com

love the new website design and the logo as background Cool          (just one misspelling on 1. page in the POS 0.10.x Core description - 3. line "darkent"  Darknet Smiley )

nice and clear CONFIGURATION infos!  just added the TOR and IPV6 nodes    (question can we leave bantime=50 now? as i think it's implemented in v2.1.3.0)




@homepage hoster - sorry for that detail but please change the misspelling as described above -  we have to write our coins name right Wink

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November 14, 2016, 10:07:25 PM
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I think it also goes against the economical freedom cryptos try to represent. To be forced to vote sounds more to north korean puppet elections than to a free liberal system... I don't like the idea, maybe a small "bonus" for the MN's which vote, but not penalties and similar.

Well, forced voting happens here in Australia also. (you get fined if you don't)

But yeah, forced voting isn't what I want either really. I think increased awareness of new & existing proposals should be a priority.
Not sure what the best way for this is either yet. But something wallet based (proposals tab, alerting optioned ect.) would be best?
Also, there are talks of extra reward for masternodes that vote. But we also don't want extra inflation. So this seems a little tricky.


Most effort come with ease of use and as you mentioned if in-wallet masternodes are available an opt-in-voting would be best (IMO). After MN creation a pop-up or an extra MN voting tab in the wallet would be convenient.

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