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February 28, 2017, 09:33:38 AM
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the DEV still work in the project, but the coin looks like dead in the exchanges  Huh 

Hi materazi,

    Now would be a good time to invest, while the EGC price is so affordable.
    We haven't seen a buying opportunity like this since last February when Evergreencoin was first available on the exchanges.

    With the Solar Staker and Android wallet coming to fruition, merchants will be in a great position to trade in EGC.
    The development work on the blockchain and wallet continue to enhance the user experience and improve the reliability of the network.

    We encourage community members to share their ideas and feedback with us here and on the official forums at https://evergreencoin.org/

    Your observation about the coin on the exchanges is accurate.  All of us would feel much better if there was a strong upward trend and increased trading volume today.

    Do you have any suggestions for outreach to bring new users to Evergreencoin?

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February 28, 2017, 09:47:44 AM
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   All of us would feel much better if there was a strong upward trend and increased trading volume today.  
I'm more than happy to see the price drop - as I'm very confident in the project and have a feeling that will be massively higher later in the year, IMO this is a golden opportunity to buy - which is excatly what I'm doing - anything sub 1000 is a great price.

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February 28, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, so with 400W of panels with additional wind turbine of 400-500W it should be fine to run 100W 24/7.
As for the cables, I should be fine. I still have some 4mm2 cables around which can take easily 60A.
Batterie capacity will be slightly higher as you suggested to avoid deep discharge in case of bad weather conditions. Will probably scale the batteries to last several days.
I will think about your suggestion to raise the voltage to 24V, but as most device are able to run on 12V, I need to see if it benefits the whole setup when I raise the voltage.

That might work, if it was solar only then you might need 3kw of panels to cover winter, but wind might give you better coverage during the day.

For cables it's not so much about what current they can carry but what the voltage drop will be (especially when running at lower voltages). 4mm2 cables would look to be around 6awg. Doing some maths at 8A over a 10m distance (20m of total cable) you get about .2v drop which might be acceptable.

As you start to increase the usage going to 20m distance between battery and device and pulling 20A the voltage drop rises to 1V (meaning that with 12V at the battery you only get 11V at the equipment). If the distribution was at 24V (with a 24-12v smps device near the equipment) you'll only have 0.5V drop over the bulk of the wiring.

This is the same reason that mains power distribution networks generally run in the many kv range even though the voltage delivered to customers will (almost always) be under 450v (depending on where you are in the world)

This also helps in the case of running from batteries as the battery voltage can vary depending on where in the discharge cycle it is (meaning as the batteries get more depleted you might only see 9V at the equipment (on that 20A/20m example). I run a similar trick for running a radio from smaller (7Ah) SLA batteries. Running the batteries in series (24v) with a 24-12v smps convertor means the radio sees 12v until the batteries are almost dead.
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February 28, 2017, 01:59:25 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, so with 400W of panels with additional wind turbine of 400-500W it should be fine to run 100W 24/7.
As for the cables, I should be fine. I still have some 4mm2 cables around which can take easily 60A.
Batterie capacity will be slightly higher as you suggested to avoid deep discharge in case of bad weather conditions. Will probably scale the batteries to last several days.
I will think about your suggestion to raise the voltage to 24V, but as most device are able to run on 12V, I need to see if it benefits the whole setup when I raise the voltage.

That might work, if it was solar only then you might need 3kw of panels to cover winter, but wind might give you better coverage during the day.

For cables it's not so much about what current they can carry but what the voltage drop will be (especially when running at lower voltages). 4mm2 cables would look to be around 6awg. Doing some maths at 8A over a 10m distance (20m of total cable) you get about .2v drop which might be acceptable.

As you start to increase the usage going to 20m distance between battery and device and pulling 20A the voltage drop rises to 1V (meaning that with 12V at the battery you only get 11V at the equipment). If the distribution was at 24V (with a 24-12v smps device near the equipment) you'll only have 0.5V drop over the bulk of the wiring.

This is the same reason that mains power distribution networks generally run in the many kv range even though the voltage delivered to customers will (almost always) be under 450v (depending on where you are in the world)

This also helps in the case of running from batteries as the battery voltage can vary depending on where in the discharge cycle it is (meaning as the batteries get more depleted you might only see 9V at the equipment (on that 20A/20m example). I run a similar trick for running a radio from smaller (7Ah) SLA batteries. Running the batteries in series (24v) with a 24-12v smps convertor means the radio sees 12v until the batteries are almost dead.

Very good points. Special thanks for your explanation about voltage drop. I see this is quite a complex topic and needs probably some rethinking from my side.
So after reading your input, I might consider going higher in voltage (not sure if 24V or 48V) and convert it back to 12V as suggested just before power goes to equipment.

Since I am still doing my research on panels and wind turbines, I found a very interesting topic related to solar power called "solarfower". Not sure yet how practical this could be but if someone might be interested too, here the link (http://solarflower.org/)

I will do some rethinking of the project and see what is feasable and what not, also regarding space and acceptance from my wife Smiley
But since it's a "green" project, wife is less of a problem Smiley

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February 28, 2017, 07:45:11 PM
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I'm planning to use my bitcoins to pay for solar (and also solid wall insulation) - but I'm a long way off so far - I can see EGC playing a big part in that when the price gets back to where it should be

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March 02, 2017, 07:25:33 AM
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Seems like the price is still dropping - I wonder who is dumping and why???

I'll take a look later to see if I can work out any patterns to the dumps.

Good to get some EGC at around the 800 range.

Another good point: The low price may also help to distribute the coin around more people - which will really increase strength in the future. A lot of people don't like to invest when most coins are in a few wallets.

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March 02, 2017, 07:44:03 AM
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A lot of people don't like to invest when most coins are in a few wallets.

Hi starmman,

    When I look at the distribution on Bittrex it looks to be fairly representative of what I would imagine are in the individual stakeholders wallets.
    When I look at the Rich List on the Evergreencoin Explorer, I don't feel it is quite accurate since the largest piles haven't moved on the Rich List and they're larger by far than any on the Bittrex distribution list.

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March 02, 2017, 08:36:50 AM
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A lot of people don't like to invest when most coins are in a few wallets.

Hi starmman,

    When I look at the distribution on Bittrex it looks to be fairly representative of what I would imagine are in the individual stakeholders wallets.
    When I look at the Rich List on the Evergreencoin Explorer, I don't feel it is quite accurate since the largest piles haven't moved on the Rich List and they're larger by far than any on the Bittrex distribution list.

Best Regards,
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I notice some balances I am aware of, namely the foundation's balance (251224.64230695 EGC at the time of this writing), are being misrepresented in the richlist. I have disabled the richlist until it is corrected.

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March 02, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
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A lot of people don't like to invest when most coins are in a few wallets.

Hi starmman,

    When I look at the distribution on Bittrex it looks to be fairly representative of what I would imagine are in the individual stakeholders wallets.
    When I look at the Rich List on the Evergreencoin Explorer, I don't feel it is quite accurate since the largest piles haven't moved on the Rich List and they're larger by far than any on the Bittrex distribution list.

Best Regards,
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I notice some balances I am aware of, namely the foundation's balance (251224.64230695 EGC at the time of this writing), are being misrepresented in the richlist. I have disabled the richlist until it is corrected.

Thanks both,

I was checking the richlist on the EGC explorer - so your explanations clarify that there may be a problem there. I was never sure if the trex distribution list was only for wallets on trex or for the entire coin - so didn't look into that so much =)

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March 02, 2017, 04:00:29 PM
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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

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March 02, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
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I've Finally had a day where it's been reasonably sunny so I've been out and done some experimenting with good results.

Using a 10W solar panel:

For comparison the panel is very similar in size to an A4 sheet of paper


This was then feeding power into the CHIP via a small regulator. The solar panel comes in via the red+black wires on the left. The three grey wires are providing a serial console so I could check the CHIP was running and connected to the network.



From my data collection you can see the solar power being fed into the CHIP


Initially when I turned it on I was only running off the attached Lipo (the red line shows the discharge current). When I connected the solar cells it then started charging the battery (the green line shows the battery being charged)


And to give an idea of conditions


There are slightly larger versions of these images available to view at http://imgur.com/a/oi3ZX
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March 02, 2017, 05:08:49 PM
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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

One would have to monitor coin supply for that. The explorer shows that info, as does the statistics tab ('Total EGC Volume') in the wallet or the getinfo RPC command ('moneysupply').

In my observations of the past, it was below 1000 per day.


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March 02, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

One would have to monitor coin supply for that. The explorer shows that info, as does the statistics tab ('Total EGC Volume') in the wallet or the getinfo RPC command ('moneysupply').

In my observations of the past, it was below 1000 per day.


Thanks =)

I can't find the Stats tab on the explorer that I'm looking at, maybe I'm on an old site. Is http://158.69.205.238:3001/ still the correct link? I can't find an alternative on the OP or the website.


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March 02, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
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I've Finally had a day where it's been reasonably sunny so I've been out and done some experimenting with good results.

Using a 10W solar panel:

For comparison the panel is very similar in size to an A4 sheet of paper


This was then feeding power into the CHIP via a small regulator. The solar panel comes in via the red+black wires on the left. The three grey wires are providing a serial console so I could check the CHIP was running and connected to the network.



From my data collection you can see the solar power being fed into the CHIP


Initially when I turned it on I was only running off the attached Lipo (the red line shows the discharge current). When I connected the solar cells it then started charging the battery (the green line shows the battery being charged)


And to give an idea of conditions


There are slightly larger versions of these images available to view at http://imgur.com/a/oi3ZX

That looks awesome drofxafm - are you using Zabbix to monitor your solar charge?
Thanks for sharing your results =)

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Wow, nice little project. Was fun for sure to successfully run on green power. EGC seems to be the perfect community to tinker with alternative energie sources. Just love to projects like yours. 

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That looks awesome drofxafm - are you using Zabbix to monitor your solar charge?
Thanks for sharing your results =)

Well spotted, yes that's being collected with zabbix, querying the onboard power management chip (AXP209) on the C.H.I.P. I'm also collecting stats from the evergreencoin daemon on my various wallet hosts.
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March 02, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

One would have to monitor coin supply for that. The explorer shows that info, as does the statistics tab ('Total EGC Volume') in the wallet or the getinfo RPC command ('moneysupply').

In my observations of the past, it was below 1000 per day.


Thanks =)

I can't find the Stats tab on the explorer that I'm looking at, maybe I'm on an old site. Is http://158.69.205.238:3001/ still the correct link? I can't find an alternative on the OP or the website.



Sorry, 'Statistics' tab within the wallet shows 'Total EGC Volume' (4th from the bottom) and the explorer shows it in a box towards the right side labeled 'Coin Supply (EGC)'. You do have the correct explorer, the official EverGreenCoin explorer.

Of course, you are very welcome! =)

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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

One would have to monitor coin supply for that. The explorer shows that info, as does the statistics tab ('Total EGC Volume') in the wallet or the getinfo RPC command ('moneysupply').

In my observations of the past, it was below 1000 per day.


Thanks =)

I can't find the Stats tab on the explorer that I'm looking at, maybe I'm on an old site. Is http://158.69.205.238:3001/ still the correct link? I can't find an alternative on the OP or the website.



Sorry, 'Statistics' tab within the wallet shows 'Total EGC Volume' (4th from the bottom) and the explorer shows it in a box towards the right side labeled 'Coin Supply (EGC)'. You do have the correct explorer, the official EverGreenCoin explorer.

Of course, you are very welcome! =)

Thanks Steven =) I know where to look now =)

Is it possible to add a link to the explorer to the OP and the website? (if is isn't there already and I missed it)

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March 03, 2017, 05:24:18 PM
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Hey, just wondering - is there a way to view the number of coins minted per day? Just wanted to do some calculations - if I'm working things out correctly ,the maximum of new coins per day should be around 2500 if every wallet is being staked, would be interesting to see the actual number.

One would have to monitor coin supply for that. The explorer shows that info, as does the statistics tab ('Total EGC Volume') in the wallet or the getinfo RPC command ('moneysupply').

In my observations of the past, it was below 1000 per day.


Thanks =)

I can't find the Stats tab on the explorer that I'm looking at, maybe I'm on an old site. Is http://158.69.205.238:3001/ still the correct link? I can't find an alternative on the OP or the website.



Sorry, 'Statistics' tab within the wallet shows 'Total EGC Volume' (4th from the bottom) and the explorer shows it in a box towards the right side labeled 'Coin Supply (EGC)'. You do have the correct explorer, the official EverGreenCoin explorer.

Of course, you are very welcome! =)

Thanks Steven =) I know where to look now =)

Is it possible to add a link to the explorer to the OP and the website? (if is isn't there already and I missed it)

Certainly, I will do so today.

When we redesigned the OP a few months ago, there was some debate about listing that and other information. The argument was presented to me that information like that should be on the website and people should go there to find it. I did disagree then but did not want to lose the help I had, so I compromised.

The community asking for the information to be more readily available is all the reasoning I need to do so. The objecting help has left already anyway. It will be done today. =)

EDIT: Done.

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March 03, 2017, 09:03:43 PM
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This could be the case,

Or.... maybe because I will 3d print the names of my supporters and ship it straight into their mailbox, even if they are in USA:


Or maybe..... because I will send a videoclip in stratosphere,

Or maybe because the name of EverGreenCoin will fly next to a real space company

Or maybe they have finally realized the real value of EGC:)



So that name James Parker is my Roommate. He was wondering when he will receive his EGC and his plaque ?
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