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January 05, 2017, 06:24:56 PM
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Thanks very much. I have downloaded the new client but it is crashing when I run it.

also - how will i open my other wallet?

sorry I'm a massive noob Grin

thanks once again for your help!


Hi chaps,

not sure if this is where i should post this but I've not been able to sync my wallet for sometime now (about 50 days!)

are there any troubleshooting steps anyone can advise?

I have v1.3.0.0: EVER(beta) wallet

my last block was 47 days ago. wallet is saying i have 2 peers but doesn't move from the number of days for the last block or the total number of blocks.
I am on a Mac osx 10.11.6

sorry if this is not enough information, please let me know what else i should provide.

thanks very much for your help

It does sound like you are stuck in a fork. You will need to resync with the network. There is a very recent snapshot available that will speed with resyncing.

BUT, give me about 20 more minutes while I finish testing v1.4.2 and you can upgrade at the same time.

Sorry you are having difficulties. Version 1.4.2 has measures in it to prevent this from happening. Links will be posted in about 15-20 minutes.

EDIT: Just a few more minutes for these tests please. There is no reason these tests should fail but, just for good measure and better safe than sorry. Links will be posted ASAP.

Sorry you troubles are ongoing, hankeh.

By "open your other wallet", I presume you mean to open your old v1.3 EverGreenCoin wallet. To do this, you simply execute the v1.3 EverGreenCoin-Qt file the same as you had in the past.

But that will not alleviate the fork issue you seem to be stuck in. To do that, follow the instructions in this post. There is no reason the v1.4.2 wallet would crash as opposed to v1.3 other than your current and what must be incorrect copy of the blockchain does not meet a check point that is now hard coded into the v1.4.2 wallet. The solution to this is also resyncing.

I will PM you now with some other diagnostics we can perform.

EDIT: The application data directory on mac would be /Users/YOUR USERNAME HERE/Library/Application Support/EverGreenCoin/

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January 05, 2017, 07:21:23 PM
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Thanks very much for your continued support!

Thanks very much. I have downloaded the new client but it is crashing when I run it.

also - how will i open my other wallet?

sorry I'm a massive noob Grin

thanks once again for your help!


Hi chaps,

not sure if this is where i should post this but I've not been able to sync my wallet for sometime now (about 50 days!)

are there any troubleshooting steps anyone can advise?

I have v1.3.0.0: EVER(beta) wallet

my last block was 47 days ago. wallet is saying i have 2 peers but doesn't move from the number of days for the last block or the total number of blocks.
I am on a Mac osx 10.11.6

sorry if this is not enough information, please let me know what else i should provide.

thanks very much for your help

It does sound like you are stuck in a fork. You will need to resync with the network. There is a very recent snapshot available that will speed with resyncing.

BUT, give me about 20 more minutes while I finish testing v1.4.2 and you can upgrade at the same time.

Sorry you are having difficulties. Version 1.4.2 has measures in it to prevent this from happening. Links will be posted in about 15-20 minutes.

EDIT: Just a few more minutes for these tests please. There is no reason these tests should fail but, just for good measure and better safe than sorry. Links will be posted ASAP.

Sorry you troubles are ongoing, hankeh.

By "open your other wallet", I presume you mean to open your old v1.3 EverGreenCoin wallet. To do this, you simply execute the v1.3 EverGreenCoin-Qt file the same as you had in the past.

But that will not alleviate the fork issue you seem to be stuck in. To do that, follow the instructions in this post. There is no reason the v1.4.2 wallet would crash as opposed to v1.3 other than your current and what must be incorrect copy of the blockchain does not meet a check point that is now hard coded into the v1.4.2 wallet. The solution to this is also resyncing.

I will PM you now with some other diagnostics we can perform.

EDIT: The application data directory on mac would be /Users/YOUR USERNAME HERE/Library/Application Support/EverGreenCoin/

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January 05, 2017, 11:35:22 PM
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Existing MAC users prior to version 1.4.2 only!

This only applies to Mac users that already had an EverGreenCoin wallet and an existing wallet.dat file prior to v1.4.2. This should only include Mac EverGreenCoin wallets version 1.3 as any earlier versions were blocked from the network via a protocol upgrade mid last year.

A compatibility mismatch has been uncovered in a dependency used to build the Mac EverGreenCoin wallets prior to version 1.4.2 that stores the data in the wallet.dat file to disk. This is only HOW the data is stored to disk. Nothing is wrong with the data itself and all your EverGreenCoins are perfectly safe. For EverGreenCoin version 1.3 Mac users, we do need to migrate your EverGreenCoin to the version 1.4.2 EverGreenCoin Mac Wallet.

These are the options we have to migrate your EverGreenCoin into a wallet.dat file data which stores the data to disk in the same way as all other EverGreenCoin wallets (all Linux and all Windows versions) on the network:

Option #1 - Using your existing EverGreenCoin version 1.3 wallet, send all your EverGreenCoin to myself or an exchange wallet as a temporary holding. You can send them to me and I will compensate for the fees when I send them back to your new version 1.4.2 wallet or you can send them to an exchange as a temporary holding place but, you will then have to pay the transaction fees and any fees the exchange might charge you. After you have sent them to the place you wish to hold them temporarily, either a wallet I will use for people wishing to do this or the exchange you have chosen, upgrade to version 1.4.2 and then I will or you can via the exchange you had chosen, send them to your new v1.4.2 wallet.

Option #2 -
  • Close your v1.3 wallet if it is open
  • Rename your wallet.dat file to walletORIGINAL.dat
  • Start the new version 1.4.2 EverGreenCoin wallet and allow it to build a new wallet.dat file
  • Copy a receiving address from the receive tab in the new wallet
  • Close the version 1.4.2 wallet
  • Rename the new wallet.dat file you just created to walletNEW.dat
  • Rename walletORIGINAL.dat to wallet.dat
  • Start your, soon to be old, version 1.3 wallet
  • Send the balance of the coins to the address you copied of the new wallet
  • Close the old version 1.3 wallet
  • Rename wallet.dat to walletORIGINAL.dat again
  • Rename walletNEW.dat to wallet.dat
  • Open your new version 1.4.2 wallet
  • Store the walletORGINAL.dat and your version 1.3 wallet in a safe place where you will not mistakenly launch in the future



New Mac users as of v1.4.2, that do not have an existing wallet.dat from v1.3, are fine to use the EverGreenCoin Version 1.4.2.0 wallets and have no cerncern. This version does use the same dependency as Linux and Windows already and will bring the entire network to using the same dependencies that store the wallet.dat file data to disk. This is why I want to migrate existing Mac v1.3 wallets to Mac v1.4.2, so the network is completely standardized with the way the wallet.dat file is stored to disk.

I sincerly appoligize for this and the inconvinence it may cause any Mac user. If you have questions or would like to make any arragngments for this, please contact me via PM.

EDIT: Of course, one could migrate by exporting and importing private keys also.

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January 06, 2017, 04:44:09 PM
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Here is a breakdown of yesterday's promotions, the first full day, from the Vindyne Group.

Steemit:
https://steemit.com/crypto/@vindyne8/egc-evergreencoin-or-environmental-green-causes-or-full-7-pos-or-foundation

Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/5m7bea/annegc_evergreencoin_environmental_green_causes/

Forums:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/egc/forum/BTC
http://altcointalk.org/index.php/topic,1006.msg3660.html#msg3660
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/513?postId=6143
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/51726-annegc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation/
http://cryptomoms.com/forum/announcements/18/annegc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7percent-pos-foundation/1536/
http://scforum.info/index.php?topic=12689.new#new
http://cryptos.us/forum/announcements/1046-ann-egc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-fou
https://forum.bitcoin.com/alternative-cryptocurrencies-altcoins/evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation-t15685.html
http://colossuscointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282.0
http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/other-digital-currencies/(ann)(egc)-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation/new/#new
https://bitcoinforum.com/alternative-cryptocurrencies/(ann)(egc)-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation/new/#new
https://www.quarktalk.cc/threads/ann-egc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation.1686/
https://www.bigbitforum.com/threads/ann-egc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation.884/
https://www.cryptotalk.org/index.php?/topic/637-annegc-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation/
https://freebitcointalk.org/altcoin-directory/(ann)(egc)-evergreencoin-environmental-green-causes-full-7-pos-foundation/

Tweets:
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/817053612295720960
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/817047897107759108
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/817047726915469312
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/816966980687237120
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/816855839898222594
https://twitter.com/Vindyne8/status/816855375743950849

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848059362145790&id=100008252310134
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848063935478666&id=100008252310134
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848059262145800&id=100008252310134
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848058862145840&id=100008252310134
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848054428812950&id=100008252310134
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1848054182146308&id=100008252310134


As you see, they have been very busy promoting EverGreenCoin! Please like, share, retweet, up vote these as we seek to maximize the social impact of these promotions.

Thanks in advance!

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January 06, 2017, 05:59:26 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

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January 06, 2017, 06:59:42 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

All working good for me, I finally managed to siphon a bit of EGC from the exchanges into a wallet. Need a lot more before I get any decent staking done.

It takes ages for people to upgrade their wallets - shame there isn't an auto-update function on them =)

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January 06, 2017, 07:19:44 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

All working good for me, I finally managed to siphon a bit of EGC from the exchanges into a wallet. Need a lot more before I get any decent staking done.

It takes ages for people to upgrade their wallets - shame there isn't an auto-update function on them =)

Reminding people seems to have had an effect. Up to 11 already! Smiley


EDIT: Now 12. I am sure a lot of people just need the weekend to upgrade also.

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January 06, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

All working good for me, I finally managed to siphon a bit of EGC from the exchanges into a wallet. Need a lot more before I get any decent staking done.

It takes ages for people to upgrade their wallets - shame there isn't an auto-update function on them =)

Reminding people seems to have had an effect. Up to 11 already! Smiley


EDIT: Now 12. I am sure a lot of people just need the weekend to upgrade also.
Personally wont I wont have time to upgrade until tomorrow, but I did remind a friend who is running a wallet aswell.

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January 06, 2017, 08:01:18 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

All working good for me, I finally managed to siphon a bit of EGC from the exchanges into a wallet. Need a lot more before I get any decent staking done.

It takes ages for people to upgrade their wallets - shame there isn't an auto-update function on them =)

Reminding people seems to have had an effect. Up to 11 already! Smiley


EDIT: Now 12. I am sure a lot of people just need the weekend to upgrade also.
Personally, I won't have time to upgrade until tomorrow, but I did remind a friend who is running a wallet as well.

Thanks for help spreading the word!

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January 06, 2017, 08:10:47 PM
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Still only seeing 8 EverGreenCoin v1.4.2 wallets connected.

Please upgrade to v1.4.2 from v1.3 today. v1.4.2 has many enhancements that will prevent your wallet from unintentionally forking.

Please upgrade at your earliest convenience.  https://evergreencoin.org/download/

All working good for me, I finally managed to siphon a bit of EGC from the exchanges into a wallet. Need a lot more before I get any decent staking done.

It takes ages for people to upgrade their wallets - shame there isn't an auto-update function on them =)

Reminding people seems to have had an effect. Up to 11 already! Smiley


EDIT: Now 12. I am sure a lot of people just need the weekend to upgrade also.

You are having much more luck than the guys at IXC, there are some people who are still running 5 year old wallets...

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January 06, 2017, 08:15:24 PM
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You are having much more luck than the guys at IXC, there are some people who are still running 5 year old wallets...
Probably helps that wallets earlier than 1.3 cant connect to the network.

Looking at the amount of nodes vs. the number of people active here, I am guessing a lot of them wont read the forum very often.

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January 06, 2017, 08:54:02 PM
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Please take a few minutes out of your weekend to upgrade your EverGreenCoin wallet to version 1.4.2 and of course, have a great weekend!

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January 07, 2017, 10:00:02 AM
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Upgraded the web server again. This time to 2 CPUs and 4 GB of RAM. I hope users notice a snappier experience. https://EverGreenCoin.org

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January 07, 2017, 11:00:35 AM
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John of the Vindyne Group Promotions has started tweeting some EverGreenCoin tweets tonight. The actual promotion and the clock on our one month of promotion will start January 5th.

Please follow @vindye8 on twitter and retweet and like his, what I am sure will be many, EverGreenCoin tweets over the month.

Again, many thanks to all who contributed through the crowdfunding on our website to make this possible.
Lets see how much of an impact this has - fingers crossed it'll get us much more exposure. Unfortunately, I don't have a twitter account.

We in the slack/IRC have collected metrics that we feel will serve as good measures to gauge the success of this promotion.

Metrics being:
100K EGC "right now" is worth 1139.89 * 100000 * 0.00001454 = 1657.4 (~3 hours ago)
80 - 300 organic hits to the website per day (already having 50 hits since the first @vindyne8 tweet, ~3 hours ago)
Twitter @EverGreenCoin_ followers = 2356
Max peers observed at one time and at one node = 73

EDIT: forgot to mention, 35 registered users on the website prior to the start of the promotion.
Well, let's see how effective that is. I am quite sceptical about such promotions, but maybe I am wrong.
I will help with retweeting, let's see at the end of the month where EGC is.
One extremely important factor to take into account is the BTC price that was at the absolute top (EGC price of 1454 sat is one of the lowest levels in the last three months at least), when the social media campaign started.

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January 07, 2017, 12:43:52 PM
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John of the Vindyne Group Promotions has started tweeting some EverGreenCoin tweets tonight. The actual promotion and the clock on our one month of promotion will start January 5th.

Please follow @vindye8 on twitter and retweet and like his, what I am sure will be many, EverGreenCoin tweets over the month.

Again, many thanks to all who contributed through the crowdfunding on our website to make this possible.
Lets see how much of an impact this has - fingers crossed it'll get us much more exposure. Unfortunately, I don't have a twitter account.

We in the slack/IRC have collected metrics that we feel will serve as good measures to gauge the success of this promotion.

Metrics being:
100K EGC "right now" is worth 1139.89 * 100000 * 0.00001454 = 1657.4 (~3 hours ago)
80 - 300 organic hits to the website per day (already having 50 hits since the first @vindyne8 tweet, ~3 hours ago)
Twitter @EverGreenCoin_ followers = 2356
Max peers observed at one time and at one node = 73

EDIT: forgot to mention, 35 registered users on the website prior to the start of the promotion.
Well, let's see how effective that is. I am quite sceptical about such promotions, but maybe I am wrong.
I will help with retweeting, let's see at the end of the month where EGC is.
One extremely important factor to take into account is the BTC price that was at the absolute top (EGC price of 1454 sat is one of the lowest levels in the last three months at least), when the social media campaign started.

Yes, the yardstick was elongated while the unit being measured was contacted. I certainly hope that the ending comparison is so glaring that, even with double skewing of the price measure, supporters of this promotion will be very happy with their investments that made it possible.

I do understand your skepticism. I have received some private feedback that such paid promotions (aka hype) are best for pump and dump strategies. EverGreenCoin being, or wanting to do with, nothing of the sort. While I know wholeheartedly pump and dump coins use similar promotions, perhaps even this same promotion vehicle, I feel the EverGreenCoin ecosystem is mature enough to gain new sets of eyes and, more importantly, more hands and minds. I do feel confident there are many like-minded individuals in the green industry, perhaps some already with a bad taste in their mouths from crypto, that will be not only willing to adopt EverGreenCoin, but also contribute when they see we have a long-standing community and an established record of being an honest project.

The growth of our base is the target. A price increase will be collateral damage from us hitting that target. The growth of our base will not only be more easily observed by some of the more consistent measurements to be taken but, will help sustain any price growth that may come from the hype. Also, I do feel our 'infrastructure' of the new website and the support ticket system are ready to facilitate some major growth of both price and user base, green merchants included.

I do thank you for your support by retweeting, uki. I ask all the community to please try and find some time to do likewise. This will help us maximize the investment. Not only am I too retweeting of course, I am making what I hope are opportunely timed tweets at @Poloniex, having never lost sight of that goal. Maybe the present hype-level will help gain their favorable consideration.

Again, I thank all who donated through the crowdfunding on the new website to make the Vindyne Group promotion possible. Your investment is not only greatly appreciated, but being leveraged as hard as possible.

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January 08, 2017, 10:30:22 PM
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Please retweet this tweet. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Sorry, I should have explained, it is aimed at polo.

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January 09, 2017, 10:47:19 AM
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To update the EverGreenCoin community on the EverGreenCoin Android wallet, the Android developer does have an EverGreenCoin wallet running on an Android device and connected to the EverGreenCoin network. He is now working on the actual communication of the Android wallet with the network via an EverGreenCoin ABE block explorer.

While I do fully understand the Android wallet is behind schedule and was roadmapped for Q4 of 2016, because of all the 'administration nightmares' (SciFi Domain scam, UniqueBTC drama) securing an Android developer, of which I talked with five in total, in mid-to-late Q4 2016 was hampered and thus pushing the timeframe already. Then in early December the Android developer had to do some unplanned traveling for his job that allowed him no time to devote to the task. But now everything is back to full swing.

At any rate, I do apologize and accept responsibility for missing the roadmapped quarter of the EverGreenCoin Android wallet. That said, I am pleased to announce, it will not be missed by much. Not much at all. I, of course, will keep you all posted as to any dates as soon as I feel confident in them. Do expect those details in the very near future.

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January 10, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
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I know some of the community are in disagreement with EverGreenCoin's stance, specifically EverGreenCoin Cannabis's stance, on marijuana both in recreation form and medicinal form. I have had private conversations with community members on the topic and fully understand the negative implications.

I do personally think those implications are amplified by the prohibition and the social stigma, and in some ways social glorification, of the plant. The evidence of the benefits of the plant is overwhelming and I don't think fully realized and will not be until social stigmas are diluted with time or, in a better scenario, disproved and removed with understanding. Of course, one can not dispute the many other benefits we could be yielding from the plant in textiles, paper, disposables, fuel, etc.

Bow has done a great job maintaining the EverGreenCoin Cannabis facebook page with evidence. https://facebook.com/EverGreenCoin420 and that has been bringing new eyes to EverGreenCoin as I only recently have started sharing those posts in other anti-prohibition groups. If you are active on facebook, I ask you to do the same.

Bow has also purchased some stock of EverGreenCoin Cannabis T-shirts that are now for sale in the EverGreenCoin marketplace. 20% of the proceeds go directly to the EverGreenCoin Foundation. They can be purchased with Credit Cards, PayPal, or hundreds of coins or receive a $5 discount if purchased with EverGreenCoin. Shipping is included but I do ask for an additional $5 for international shipping out of the United States to help me absorb that additional cost.

https://evergreencoin.org/product/evergreencoin-cannabis-t-shirt/

https://evergreencoin.org/product/evergreencoin-cannabis-t-shirt-egc-only/

The stock will not be received, by me as I will be shipping them, until the 20th but I will make certain any orders received by then will go out on that day. I will also cover expedited shipping on that day, if it is available to the destination.

For the record, I do not personally partake but I have first hand seen the medicinal benefits.

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I know some of the community are in disagreement with EverGreenCoin's stance, specifically EverGreenCoin Cannabis's stance, on marijuana both in recreation form and medicinal form. I have had private conversations with community members on the topic and fully understand the negative implications.

I do personally think those implications are amplified by the prohibition and the social stigma, and in some ways social glorification, of the plant. The evidence of the benefits of the plant is overwhelming and I don't think fully realized and will not be until social stigmas are diluted with time or, in a better scenario, disproved and removed with understanding. Of course, one can not dispute the many other benefits we could be yielding from the plant in textiles, paper, disposables, fuel, etc.

Bow has done a great job maintaining the EverGreenCoin Cannabis facebook page with evidence. https://facebook.com/EverGreenCoin420 and that has been bringing new eyes to EverGreenCoin as I only recently have started sharing those posts in other anti-prohibition groups. If you are active on facebook, I ask you to do the same.

Bow has also purchased some stock of EverGreenCoin Cannabis T-shirts that are now for sale in the EverGreenCoin marketplace. 20% of the proceeds go directly to the EverGreenCoin Foundation. They can be purchased with Credit Cards, PayPal, or hundreds of coins or receive a $5 discount if purchased with EverGreenCoin. Shipping is included but I do ask for an additional $5 for international shipping out of the United States to help me absorb that additional cost.

https://evergreencoin.org/product/evergreencoin-cannabis-t-shirt/

https://evergreencoin.org/product/evergreencoin-cannabis-t-shirt-egc-only/

The stock will not be received, by me as I will be shipping them, until the 20th but I will make certain any orders received by then will go out on that day. I will also cover expedited shipping on that day, if it is available to the destination.

For the record, I do not personally partake but I have first hand seen the medicinal benefits.

To be honest - the reason I didn't join the community at launch was due to the references to Cannabis in the OP, as soon as I read the word, I stopped reading the post thinking "this coin must be a bit shady", and I understand the importance of hemp cultivation more than most (especially is carbon sequestration abilities). I think branching it out was a very good decision.
The following article is pretty interesting http://www.kinemagazine.com/9-ways-industrial-hemp-can-save-the-world/

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January 11, 2017, 02:39:05 PM
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"Buying real life items with EGC."


So!
On the EverGreenCoin webpage i found https://evergreencoin.org/directory/

There i found a shop selling chili products. https://www.pexpeppers.com/
So i thought "cool, why not try this out"



Long story short!

By using EGC as pay, i got 10% discount using a code.
I ordered 1 sauce, Over the Moon  Cool (http://imgur.com/a/NPQlv )
and 3 kinds of chili seeds. (ghost peppers as one of them)

The only personal information i had to give out to get this product from the "other side of the world" was my postal adress to pexpeppers.
But i never had to register anywhere or give any personal information for the economic transactions of EGC.
THIS MAKES ME HAPPY!


Package arrived
Well.. first i did the mistake of "oh i need to taste this, NOW" and squirted a dash on my tounge.
IS HOT!

Used later for some hot chicken wings... so great.



THANKS EGC!
THANKS PEXPEPPERS!

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