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November 23, 2016, 11:16:19 AM
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    Unless proven otherwise, I will assume one single employee of Unique BTC will have access to the wallet password which manages donations.

    I challenge Unique BTC to offer a solution using multisig transactions which removes risk from both the upline and downline and places the risk squarely upon Unique BTC's good faith and continued operations.
    The proposed solution should feature safeguards against trivial abuse of the TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE by the program Administrators.
After reading the T&C's, this looks very similar to a ponzi scheme to me, generally only people at the top tier win on these. I'm definitely not going to join. I'd rather risk my coin using my own trading strategies than trust my heard earned funds with an anonymous group where it's creator, operators, employees, assigns and successors shall not be held liable for any loss whatsoever to (their) members., to join, you have to pay to the person who refers you.

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November 23, 2016, 11:17:16 AM
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For me you indians showed your colors. They are green alright, but solely the green color of money.
You don't care for the environment in the way I do, do you?
Any involvement besides attending the EGC hangout? Nothing at all.
So for me you can dump your egc and get the hell out of my life. We can manage well, if not even better, without you.
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November 23, 2016, 11:33:01 AM
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For me you indians showed your colors. They are green alright, but solely the green color of money.
You don't care for the environment in the way I do, do you?
Any involvement besides attending the EGC hangout? Nothing at all.
So for me you can dump your egc and get the hell out of my life. We can manage well, if not even better, without you.

Interestingly enough, the site is talking solely about BTC investing - nothing to do with EGC - they are asking for each member to donate 0.04BTC per month to the scheme, and recruit another 3 members to also pay 0.04BTC per month to receive 0.08 to 0.12 per month.

Then somehow there is a 'Phase 2' which i'm not sure when it starts - were people must pay 0.5BTC per month, coupled with T&C's where a user must adhere to these rules (or any new ones) or be kicked off the site.

Sounds like extortion to me.

There is no information about converting this BTC to EGC or even depositing in EGC - as far as I can see - this will have no impact on the EGC market cap whatsoever, and just make the people running the scheme richer. Even if it was to do with EGC the scheme would give the coin a very bad reputation when the bottom falls out - which in my opinion will be fairly quickly as its a small community.

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Interestingly enough, the site is talking solely about BTC investing - nothing to do with EGC - they are asking for each member to donate 0.04BTC per month to the scheme, and recruit another 3 members to also pay 0.04BTC per month to receive 0.08 to 0.12 per month.

The front page talks about EGC. I think the idea is that you put int 0.06BTC per month, 0.04BTC of that goes to the person above you and 0.02BTC buys you some EGC.

Personally if I had 0.06BTC to spend I'd just invest it directly into EGC.

Also I see that the site doesn't appear to have any security in place (only accessible over http with no https). This is very poor for something that requires personal details from users and deals with financial transactions.
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November 23, 2016, 11:55:18 AM
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Interestingly enough, the site is talking solely about BTC investing - nothing to do with EGC - they are asking for each member to donate 0.04BTC per month to the scheme, and recruit another 3 members to also pay 0.04BTC per month to receive 0.08 to 0.12 per month.

The front page talks about EGC. I think the idea is that you put int 0.06BTC per month, 0.04BTC of that goes to the person above you and 0.02BTC buys you some EGC.

Personally if I had 0.06BTC to spend I'd just invest it directly into EGC.

Also I see that the site doesn't appear to have any security in place (only accessible over http with no https). This is very poor for something that requires personal details from users and deals with financial transactions.

Thanks, I must have missed that bit - their business plan page isn't very clear at all =)

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November 23, 2016, 07:07:03 PM
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*Artwork by GizFreak

What does it say? Can't read it without my glasses...
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November 23, 2016, 07:09:11 PM
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*ARTWORK BY GIZFREAK

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EDIT: I did not want to dilute your lovely art with unnecessary clutter! Wink

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November 24, 2016, 05:00:51 AM
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This year I am especially thankful for EverGreenCoin's like-minded community members that have helped to make this project a success. I am grateful that through leveraging cryptocurrency we have found a way to promote and support environmental awareness. As this project nears a year since launch, it is awesome to see the roots taking hold and imagining the great impacts it will have as it grows. I am thankful for ever step and even the stumbles of that journey and those that have walked it with me and helped it get to its feet again when needed. I am also very thankful those people have had opportunities to realize profits in return for supporting an honest and good intentioned project. I am thankful that even in this industry, good can succeed if it never quits.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

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November 24, 2016, 06:14:21 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving to all our friends across the pond - hope you celebrate it well =D

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cheers all ...

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November 25, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
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Very good price action for black Friday. Sale, sale!
 It looks like a good buying opportunity, and surprisingly there are sellers under 3k. Thanks for some cheap coins.

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November 25, 2016, 11:05:54 AM
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Very good price action for black Friday. Sale, sale!
 It looks like a good buying opportunity, and surprisingly there are sellers under 3k. Thanks for some cheap coins.
Due being disciplined with my trading strategy, I've got a few coins for sale at less than 3k but I'd be much happier if I didn't.

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November 25, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
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As a friendly reminder, the next EverGreenCoin community meeting and hangout will be tomorrow, Saturday, November 26th at 17:00 GMT. I will post a link just prior.

All are welcome and you do not need to share your video or audio to attend. There is text chat if you prefer and you're also welcome to only observe.

Hope to see you there!

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November 26, 2016, 12:02:09 AM
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For me you indians showed your colors. They are green alright, but solely the green color of money.
You don't care for the environment in the way I do, do you?
Any involvement besides attending the EGC hangout? Nothing at all.
So for me you can dump your egc and get the hell out of my life. We can manage well, if not even better, without you.

GIZFREAK . i dont know much about u , and i am not the owner of uniquebtc.com , i am just a promoter of it
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U PEOPLE TRADING , DUMPING from past 3 months and making PROFITS and shouting on us , we are doing many attempts to BRING PRICE UP , U PEOPLE KEEP DUMPING and talking non-sense ...

If you followed this forum you would be aware that gizfreak is one of the few people heavily involved in the community working to drive egc forward. I'm pretty sure gizfreak is not one of those people dumping coins.

INDIAN GROUP IS HOLDING MORE THAN 50% OF EGC , my personal team is holding 4% EGC COINS FROM PAST 3 MONTHS ,  

As such larger holders you've presumably helped strengthen the network by donating some EGC for the new seednodes that are being rolled out. For reference see:

As you all know from recent discussions, we have been fortifying the EverGreenCoin network with many more seednodes. Thanks to Chainworks Industries (CWI) we have gone from 7 seednodes to 20 seednodes online already! Soon we will have 27 online.

I am asking for donations of EGC to help supply these seednodes so that they will be helping to secure PoS, process the blockchain, and more importantly keep PoS difficulty from dropping to extremely low levels.
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If you find your EGC balance to be in a position to donate, please send to EGC address EQxtPQFmBcBycAMxxAFdzksN7LcHsnRP8P any size donation. All donations, of any size, are greatly appreciated. We hope to put several thousand on each of the, what soon will be, 27 seednodes.

AND SOMEONE QUOTE THAT IT IS PONZI SCHEME , FIRST UNDERSTAND THE PLAN AND THEN MAKE A QUOTE ... if anyone who lost money through our plan then u have a right to question but not now  as company still running and we are available always .

Whilst I've not called uniquebtc a ponzi scheme it looks very much like a pyramid scheme which is very similar. From what I can see from the site I join the investment by paying 0.06btc each month. Of that 0.04 btc goes to the person above me in the scheme. My return is 0.12btc each month that comes from three people below me in the scheme and 0.02btc worth of EGC.

If I've misunderstood this then you (or whoever is responsible for uniquebtc) needs to better explain how the scheme works.

I much appreciate the work from some people who are working for EGC

It's good to know that the work gizfreak, Steven, myself, and a few others are putting into EGC (generally lots of hours for which we get no direct reward) is appreciated.
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November 26, 2016, 12:50:05 AM
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THIS

Interestingly enough, the site is talking solely about BTC investing - nothing to do with EGC - they are asking for each member to donate 0.04BTC per month to the scheme, and recruit another 3 members to also pay 0.04BTC per month to receive 0.08 to 0.12 per month.

Then somehow there is a 'Phase 2' which i'm not sure when it starts - were people must pay 0.5BTC per month, coupled with T&C's where a user must adhere to these rules (or any new ones) or be kicked off the site.

Sounds like extortion to me.

There is no information about converting this BTC to EGC or even depositing in EGC - as far as I can see - this will have no impact on the EGC market cap whatsoever, and just make the people running the scheme richer. Even if it was to do with EGC the scheme would give the coin a very bad reputation when the bottom falls out - which in my opinion will be fairly quickly as its a small community.

Hello,

    If the program administrators wanted to keep the EGC market healthy, they would ensure people were buying EGC regularly - and do so through Phase 1 and Phase 2.
    The program instead requires members to transact in BTC.  What's really happening here is a slow drain of a program administrator's EGC wallet as they're redistributed to investors.
    Presumably, no new EGC will be bought to fulfill donations to downlines in EGC.

    The EGC part on the back page of Unique BTC's website is not much more than a Greenpeace bumper sticker.


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November 26, 2016, 08:04:31 AM
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For me you indians showed your colors. They are green alright, but solely the green color of money.
You don't care for the environment in the way I do, do you?
Any involvement besides attending the EGC hangout? Nothing at all.
So for me you can dump your egc and get the hell out of my life. We can manage well, if not even better, without you.

GIZFREAK . i dont know much about u , and i am not the owner of uniquebtc.com , i am just a promoter of it

now what are u talking about indians showed your colors this is what u said

if we showed our real colors EGC PRICE WONT BE EVEN AT THIS PRICE , it would be at 200 to 300 sat i think ,

INDIAN GROUP IS HOLDING MORE THAN 50% OF EGC , my personal team is holding 4% EGC COINS FROM PAST 3 MONTHS ,  

we all bought at 4k -10k , some of us bought at 25k sat too , still MOST OF THEM DIDN'T SOLD their coins...

U PEOPLE TRADING , DUMPING from past 3 months and making PROFITS and shouting on us , we are doing many attempts to BRING PRICE UP , U PEOPLE KEEP DUMPING and talking non-sense ...

AND SOMEONE QUOTE THAT IT IS PONZI SCHEME , FIRST UNDERSTAND THE PLAN AND THEN MAKE A QUOTE ... if anyone who lost money through our plan then u have a right to question but not now  as company still running and we are available always .

I much appreciate the work from some people who are working for EGC

AND NEVER EVER CRITICIZE INDIANS and be careful before u quote




And again you are talking only about the price of the market and not what goals EGC have or for what EGC is. Nobody needs investors from MLM that not even khnow what EGC is but bought EGC with your MLM project. Nobody need such investors and a EGC supporter here in crypto is somebody who could say what EGC really is and not just buy it and try to bring price up... You guys should start to understand that we are longer time in crypto involved and could say what is good for a altcoin and what not. MLM is not liked in crypto !!! If you think we all just shut up only because you got much coins then you are wrong because we support EGC and not only the market !! If you really don't stop beeing so ignorant please dumb all your coins and start your MLM game with an other coin!! And you will see that nobody will welcome you with your MLM. They will be happy that you buy coins nothing more. If they see your MLM they will Fud you like hell. You can be happy that we welcome you and try to work with you. Everybody in crypto would say scam to your pyramid. I would more like 2 gizfreaks for 50 MLM people...

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November 26, 2016, 08:31:58 AM
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For me you indians showed your colors. They are green alright, but solely the green color of money.
You don't care for the environment in the way I do, do you?
Any involvement besides attending the EGC hangout? Nothing at all.
So for me you can dump your egc and get the hell out of my life. We can manage well, if not even better, without you.

GIZFREAK . i dont know much about u , and i am not the owner of uniquebtc.com , i am just a promoter of it

now what are u talking about indians showed your colors this is what u said

if we showed our real colors EGC PRICE WONT BE EVEN AT THIS PRICE , it would be at 200 to 300 sat i think ,

INDIAN GROUP IS HOLDING MORE THAN 50% OF EGC , my personal team is holding 4% EGC COINS FROM PAST 3 MONTHS ,  

we all bought at 4k -10k , some of us bought at 25k sat too , still MOST OF THEM DIDN'T SOLD their coins...

U PEOPLE TRADING , DUMPING from past 3 months and making PROFITS and shouting on us , we are doing many attempts to BRING PRICE UP , U PEOPLE KEEP DUMPING and talking non-sense ...

AND SOMEONE QUOTE THAT IT IS PONZI SCHEME , FIRST UNDERSTAND THE PLAN AND THEN MAKE A QUOTE ... if anyone who lost money through our plan then u have a right to question but not now  as company still running and we are available always .

I much appreciate the work from some people who are working for EGC

AND NEVER EVER CRITICIZE INDIANS and be careful before u quote




And again you are talking only about the price of the market and not what goals EGC have or for what EGC is. Nobody needs investors from MLM that not even khnow what EGC is but bought EGC with your MLM project. Nobody need such investors and a EGC supporter here in crypto is somebody who could say what EGC really is and not just buy it and try to bring price up... You guys should start to understand that we are longer time in crypto involved and could say what is good for a altcoin and what not. MLM is not liked in crypto !!! If you think we all just shut up only because you got much coins then you are wrong because we support EGC and not only the market !! If you really don't stop beeing so ignorant please dumb all your coins and start your MLM game with an other coin!! And you will see that nobody will welcome you with your MLM. They will be happy that you buy coins nothing more. If they see your MLM they will Fud you like hell. You can be happy that we welcome you and try to work with you. Everybody in crypto would say scam to your pyramid. I would more like 2 gizfreaks for 50 MLM people...

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@Rishi,

I think you'll find a fairly hard time getting a substantial number of people to buy into the scheme you are promoting here.

Sounds like it is in your interests to increase the value of the coin. Maybe there is a better way to go about it by engaging with the community and promoting the coin in a different way.

You'll also find that people posting on the forum were not involved in the initial pump of the coin - this probably came from some people on yobit and jump from coin to coin. A lot of people sold since the value of the coin rocketed from 300sat to 90000sat, in a short space of time which is totally unsustainable market dynamics, I'm sure you would have done the same in that situation - the big winners were likely the people who organised the pump and dump, who will be doing it with different coins every day.

Personally, I only got involved in the coin during the pump, and bought a number at 9k and downwards.

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November 26, 2016, 10:43:45 AM
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AND its upto u to join and PLEASE LEAVE THIS TOPIC now ...
Sorry to say, but I really don't understand what you are trying to say here.
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November 26, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
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AND its upto u to join and PLEASE LEAVE THIS TOPIC now ...
Sorry to say, but I really don't understand what you are trying to say here.

I believe he is trying to say that if you don't want to join, just ignore the post. "Leave" as in, "leave it alone".

We will devote a portion of today's meeting to clearing up these miscommunications and gain a better understanding of UniqueBTC's plan. We have been discussing in the Telegram group and perhaps we can help them present this in a more trustworty and better explained way. But we can only help do that when we understand the plan, eachother, and questions are fully answered.

Language barriers are causing some difficulties and some unnecessary emotions to enter this conversation. Unfamiliarity with crypto and BCT are also muddying the waters. We will all do much better understanding in a real conversation.

Remember, we are all in this together and do want what is best for EverGreenCoin.

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