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January 14, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

 

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January 14, 2016, 10:23:02 AM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

 

And what happens when it's night ? Smiley

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January 14, 2016, 10:26:03 AM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

you didn't get the point.
in order to power that single staker you need a solar panel, a charger, a battery, a power adapter...
if you want two stakers it's all doubled.
much better to make a single solar panel array and power everything you can with it.
it's more efficient.

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January 14, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

you didn't get the point.
in order to power that single staker you need a solar panel, a charger, a battery, a power adapter...
if you want two stakers it's all doubled.
much better to make a single solar panel array and power everything you can with it.
it's more efficient.

Yeah, I get it in the first place, and you are right, having one bigger solar panel is more convenient and efficient.
But we are thinking to a much smaller mobile staker ( not a pc)- This way, we can have the price  for the whole device  somewhere at ~ $100.  If you have a pc, you can run the whole thing on the grid.
 So having a a bigger solar panel involves more batteries to store all the power, and a converter.( So it can hold multiple mobile stalkers)

However I agree with you, and would make sense  in having a larger solar panel and share it with your neighbor or having all build up as modules and buy 2 or 3 devices and build up a EGC Powerpack  for example( more power, more mobile stakers).
We are are basically selling the energy to our neighbor,  clean energy,  that we actually produce, and in doing so we are recognizing the local environmental benefits and giving a price signal to the market for the real value of renewables at the community level.

    In this model we can transact and price energy with Microgrid neighbors directly.We believe that it becomes somehow possible to imagine an entirely new business model emerging for utilities where  you can earn  from transaction fees to support this market and infrastructure.

Not to mention that beyond finance, the EGC blockchain can provide a full audit trail of a piece of data's origin in both time and place: generated amount of power,  traded power, etc.  In this way, a blockchain can act as a provenance protocol for data across disparate semi-trusting organizations.
More to come, stay tuned.

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January 14, 2016, 12:31:43 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

you didn't get the point.
in order to power that single staker you need a solar panel, a charger, a battery, a power adapter...
if you want two stakers it's all doubled.
much better to make a single solar panel array and power everything you can with it.
it's more efficient.

Yeah, I get it in the first place, and you are right, having one bigger solar panel is more convenient and efficient.
But we are thinking to a much smaller mobile staker ( not a pc)- This way, we can have the price  for the whole device  somewhere at ~ $100.  If you have a pc, you can run the whole thing on the grid.
 So having a a bigger solar panel involves more batteries to store all the power, and a converter.( So it can hold multiple mobile stalkers)

However I agree with you, and would make sense  in having a larger solar panel and share it with your neighbor or having all build up as modules and buy 2 or 3 devices and build up a EGC Powerpack  for example( more power, more mobile stakers).
We are are basically selling the energy to our neighbor,  clean energy,  that we actually produce, and in doing so we are recognizing the local environmental benefits and giving a price signal to the market for the real value of renewables at the community level.

    In this model we can transact and price energy with Microgrid neighbors directly.We believe that it becomes somehow possible to imagine an entirely new business model emerging for utilities where  you can earn  from transaction fees to support this market and infrastructure.

Not to mention that beyond finance, the EGC blockchain can provide a full audit trail of a piece of data's origin in both time and place: generated amount of power,  traded power, etc.  In this way, a blockchain can act as a provenance protocol for data across disparate semi-trusting organizations.
More to come, stay tuned.

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that's why I said "the idea of the solar staker looks good to me": having many self-powered micro-stations around the globe is fascinating.
but then again all the renewable energy discussions are about efficiency, so we must take that into consideration.
still I'm looking forward to see what you'll come up with and would surely consider buying a micro-pc which is fully powered by solar energy, was it only for the coolness factor Wink
let's make it for outside use of course!

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January 14, 2016, 02:23:48 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

 

And what happens when it's night ? Smiley

The device then runs on the battery it had been charging during the day. Our prototypes consist of three solar panels that not only run the device during day light hours but also charge a battery for night.

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January 14, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley


There is no need for a full PC for a dedicated staking machine. There are other projects already doing this with a Pi running linux and a web gui for the user. You could add a small battery to a setup like this and the cost for all hardware would still remain very low.
http://www.voltaicsystems.com/blog/powering-a-raspberry-pi-from-solar-power/ The example here uses a 9 watt solar panel.

This seems like more of a fun hobby to do something like this over a product non -geeks may want to use. When the device only uses 5 volts of power in first place most people will not complain about that or look for alternative power solutions.
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January 14, 2016, 03:11:24 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley


There is no need for a full PC for a dedicated staking machine. There are other projects already doing this with a Pi running linux and a web gui for the user. You could add a small battery to a setup like this and the cost for all hardware would still remain very low.
http://www.voltaicsystems.com/blog/powering-a-raspberry-pi-from-solar-power/ The example here uses a 9 watt solar panel.

This seems like more of a fun hobby to do something like this over a product non -geeks may want to use. When the device only uses 5 volts of power in first place most people will not complain about that or look for alternative power solutions.

You are correct, this is not a solar powered PC and will be similar in functionality to the stated device.

We are doing everything we can think of to make this attractive to nontechnical people including those less familiar with crypto. This includes loading the device with an intial EGC deposit (for example, 100 EGC) so nontechnical people can start earning 7% by simply adding sunshine.

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January 14, 2016, 04:06:06 PM
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So the community is aware, I will be bringing the seed node off line this morning while I compile the version 1.1 daemon on the seed node and do some wallet.dat shuffling. Yes, the source for EGC version 1.1 will be pushed to the github soon. Wallets will be compiled and made available as soon as possible.

This version consists of the following changes:
  • New logo.
  • New splash screen.
  • New in-wallet news feed. Usually this will be our twitter feed unless urgent messages need to be displayed. We do plan to also have this display market data in the near future. These improvements to the news feed will happen in real time within your new EGC version 1.1 wallet and not require additional wallet upgrades.
  • New checkpoints.
  • New seed nodes. Addition of 3 seed nodes graciously provided by granite.

This is not a required update, as version 1 wallets will continue to function perfectly. We do encourage the upgrade to version 1.1 as you will benefit from the additional seed nodes and the news feed will keep you more informed.  

Thank you in advance for your patience while we roll out EverGreenCoin version 1.1 and I will announce when the code is made available on the github soon.


EDIT: I forgot to mention the checkpoints originally. I apologize for my oversight of this.

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January 14, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
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Hi Evergreen devs. PM me when you get a chance.
Thanks Smiley
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January 14, 2016, 04:24:54 PM
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Hi Evergreen devs. PM me when you get a chance.
Thanks Smiley

Honored to. Smiley PM'd

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January 14, 2016, 08:15:56 PM
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I am pleased to announce that the seed node is running version 1.1 of the EverGreenCoin daemon wallet and the source was pushed to the repo. We will be compiling the version 1.1 qt wallets for Windows, Mac OS X, and yes, Android (with staking) as soon as possible and announce the availability upon completion and release.

Again, this upgrade is optional but, it will benefit you with the additional seed nodes and informational news feed. As well as the beautiful new logo.

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January 14, 2016, 09:36:19 PM
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I am pleased to announce that the seed node is running version 1.1 of the EverGreenCoin daemon wallet and the source was pushed to the repo. We will be compiling the version 1.1 qt wallets for Windows, Mac OS X, and yes, Android (with staking) as soon as possible and announce the availability upon completion and release.

Again, this upgrade is optional but, it will benefit you with the additional seed nodes and informational news feed. As well as the beautiful new logo.

Please do not upgrade just yet. Some improvements have just been brought to my attention that I would like to incorporate. There is nothing 'wrong' with the code. So if you have already compiled, no worries.  But if you have yet to do so, please allow me an hour or so to make some quick additional changes. This was just now brought to my attention and again, it is not an error in the code, only an improvement. I do apologize for this delay and the now, premature announcement.

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January 14, 2016, 10:39:14 PM
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I am pleased to announce that the seed node is running version 1.1 of the EverGreenCoin daemon wallet and the source was pushed to the repo. We will be compiling the version 1.1 qt wallets for Windows, Mac OS X, and yes, Android (with staking) as soon as possible and announce the availability upon completion and release.

Again, this upgrade is optional but, it will benefit you with the additional seed nodes and informational news feed. As well as the beautiful new logo.

Please do not upgrade just yet. Some improvements have just been brought to my attention that I would like to incorporate. There is nothing 'wrong' with the code. So if you have already compiled, no worries.  But if you have yet to do so, please allow me an hour or so to make some quick additional changes. This was just now brought to my attention and again, it is not an error in the code, only an improvement. I do apologize for this delay and the now, premature announcement.

Ok, all good now. https://github.com/EverGreenCoinDev/EverGreenCoin

Again, my apologizes.

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January 14, 2016, 11:05:51 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

 

And what happens when it's night ? Smiley

Typically you would want to do a grid tied system and overbuild it to deliver more power than you would need during the day. The excess power would be sold back to the grid during the day and you would use grid power in the evening.

A battery bank is an option but this also depends on your location and the amount of sun you get in your area and cloudy/rainy days

small consumer wind turbines are becoming less expensive and can be a good choice for a hybrid solar power system in windy locations.

The better choice would be to replace energy wasting appliances and lights(60 watt bulb to 5 watt led) and use a system built with the latest energy efficient technology http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130881

quad core 6 watts

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January 14, 2016, 11:18:33 PM
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while the idea of the solar staker looks good to me, I think that a single solar array powering multiple devices (including PCs) is much more convenient and efficient.

one PC consumes at least 400 W, so you need something like 2x 250w  mono-crystalline solar panel,  add the solar charger, the converter, and you easily pay at lest $500 Smiley

 

And what happens when it's night ? Smiley

Typically you would want to do a grid tied system and overbuild it to deliver more power than you would need during the day. The excess power would be sold back to the grid during the day and you would use grid power in the evening.

A battery bank is an option but this also depends on your location and the amount of sun you get in your area and cloudy/rainy days

small consumer wind turbines are becoming less expensive and can be a good choice for a hybrid solar power system in windy locations.

The better choice would be to replace energy wasting appliances and lights(60 watt bulb to 5 watt led) and use a system built with the latest energy efficient technology http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130881

quad core 6 watts


You're absolutely right! I recently changed out all of my old bulbs for LED edison bulbs. This build is mainly going to be for the non-technical members and the members that are just getting interested in environmental-friendly living. Thanks for the post!

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January 15, 2016, 12:51:53 AM
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EGC doesn't make me happy nowadays... I know the price is still strong at around 700 and will increase but waiting is boring.  Undecided

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January 15, 2016, 01:01:43 AM
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why not create a wallet staking in raspberry pi zero or other similar and and exchange them for EGC?
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January 15, 2016, 01:06:30 AM
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EGC doesn't make me happy nowadays... I know the price is still strong at around 700 and will increase but waiting is boring.  Undecided

haha. All ventures take time, money, and effort to come to fruition. We only launched two and a half weeks ago. Stick it out and you might get to see some great things come from the EGC team. Besides, our main goal is to help innovate the blockchain into a more environmental-friendly technology. #ToTheTreetop

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January 15, 2016, 01:08:06 AM
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why not create a wallet staking in raspberry pi zero or other similar and and exchange them for EGC?


Could you explain that idea a bit further? That sounds exactly like what we are trying to accomplish.

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