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April 06, 2024, 07:14:23 AM Last edit: April 06, 2024, 08:12:08 AM by saatoshi_falling |
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Then I just got the fork coins (only BCH, BSV, eCash, BTG, BCD and CDY) Good to know that even after 12 minutes the fork coins were intact. So probably the situation is not that bad as we are anticipating During that time the puzzles had like 0.0064 bitcoin it and on top of that BTC was very low. Why would it create a world wide bot race and why would someone waste hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees to withdraw it? It only became an issue once the creator increased the puzzle prize and since then, no lower end puzzle have been solved. I suggest to take whatever time/scripts/motivation you have and try to solve puzzle #80 on wards instead where you will be guaranteed the prize. Or, ask someone with knowledge about timings which is the lowest feasible puzzle to be solved that will leave enough time to withdraw without a bot snatchingup. I don't know this answer, could be even puzzle #70? If someone can answer that, that would be great.
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April 06, 2024, 12:23:48 PM Last edit: April 07, 2024, 09:43:56 PM by Mr. Big |
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Then I just got the fork coins (only BCH, BSV, eCash, BTG, BCD and CDY) Good to know that even after 12 minutes the fork coins were intact. So probably the situation is not that bad as we are anticipating During that time the puzzles had like 0.0064 bitcoin it and on top of that BTC was very low. Why would it create a world wide bot race and why would someone waste hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees to withdraw it? It only became an issue once the creator increased the puzzle prize and since then, no lower end puzzle have been solved. I suggest to take whatever time/scripts/motivation you have and try to solve puzzle #80 on wards instead where you will be guaranteed the prize. Or, ask someone with knowledge about timings which is the lowest feasible puzzle to be solved that will leave enough time to withdraw without a bot snatchingup. I don't know this answer, could be even puzzle #70? If someone can answer that, that would be great. Hello again Puzzle #64 was solved on 09/09/2022. It's prize was 0.64 BTC and that day BTC price was US$21.268, so the prize in BTC was like US$13.611 Any puzzle below #80 or #90, I think, can be snatching up by a bot.
64 was solved before the 10x so the values of the fork coins were not as tempting as they are now. Then I just got the fork coins (only BCH, BSV, eCash, BTG, BCD and CDY) Good to know that even after 12 minutes the fork coins were intact. So probably the situation is not that bad as we are anticipating That day I got like US$165 between BCH, BSV, XEC (eCash) and BTG. It was cool to get that here in a latinamerican country And, even today, fork coins weren't updated with 10x, so the prize is still the same for the fork coins (ie 0.66 BCH for puzzle #66 and so on)
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In Sequence Some Sample Founds : FOUND!!! PrivateKey= 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002de40f Address =1CfZWK1QTQE3eS9qn61dQjV89KDjZzfNcv Minikey = S11111111111111144Xkpy FOUND!!! PrivateKey= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001fa5ee5 Address =15JhYXn6Mx3oF4Y7PcTAv2wVVAuCFFQNiP Minikey = S1111111111111122378PV FOUND!!! PrivateKey= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000006ac3875 Address =128z5d7nN7PkCuX5qoA4Ys6pmxUYnEy86k Minikey = S1111111111111128JJjjq FOUND!!! PrivateKey= 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001ba534 Address =14oFNXucftsHiUMY8uctg6N487riuyXs4h Minikey = S111111111111113345mux FOUND!!! PrivateKey= 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002de40f Address =1CfZWK1QTQE3eS9qn61dQjV89KDjZzfNcv Minikey = S1111111111111137WWbfk If someone has already tried something like this, please let me know so we can avoid wasting time.
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Hi guys, im new here, now i use rotor-cuda i have RTX 3050 (650Mk/s) and i trying puzzle #67 because I'll have a head start when puzzle #66 is solved, is this a good approach or im dumb ? sorry for my english
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Hi guys, im new here, now i use rotor-cuda i have RTX 3050 (650Mk/s) and i trying puzzle #67 because I'll have a head start when puzzle #66 is solved, is this a good approach or im dumb ? sorry for my english
does not change anything. When pubkey is known puz67 is cracked also within seconds. In my example with a GPU very similar to yours --> 63 seconds Cheers! citb0in
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Hi guys, im new here, now i use rotor-cuda i have RTX 3050 (650Mk/s) and i trying puzzle #67 because I'll have a head start when puzzle #66 is solved, is this a good approach or im dumb ? sorry for my english
does not change anything. When pubkey is known puz67 is cracked also within seconds. In my example with a GPU very similar to yours --> 63 seconds Cheers! citb0in so if i solve #66 i can solve #67 but why ?
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April 07, 2024, 07:47:49 PM |
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Hi guys, im new here, now i use rotor-cuda i have RTX 3050 (650Mk/s) and i trying puzzle #67 because I'll have a head start when puzzle #66 is solved, is this a good approach or im dumb ? sorry for my english
does not change anything. When pubkey is known puz67 is cracked also within seconds. In my example with a GPU very similar to yours --> 63 seconds Cheers! citb0in so if i solve #66 i can solve #67 but why ? Already answered by many posters, just start reading 20 pages back
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Hi guys, im new here, now i use rotor-cuda i have RTX 3050 (650Mk/s) and i trying puzzle #67 because I'll have a head start when puzzle #66 is solved, is this a good approach or im dumb ? sorry for my english
does not change anything. When pubkey is known puz67 is cracked also within seconds. In my example with a GPU very similar to yours --> 63 seconds Cheers! citb0in so if i solve #66 i can solve #67 but why ? Already answered by many posters, just start reading 20 pages back i know what is double spend but i dont know if you send transaction you leak publickey so now make sence
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April 08, 2024, 04:25:03 AM Last edit: April 08, 2024, 04:36:05 AM by nomachine |
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I’m seeing so many variations of software throughout this thread and the other one. If I wanted to randomly let my pc waste electricity on weekends doing a random search for #66, what would be my best bet?
Use the program as you wish, but from puzzle 79, 81, 82, 83 and above. Or, ask someone with knowledge about timings which is the lowest feasible puzzle to be solved that will leave enough time to withdraw without a bot snatchingup. I don't know this answer, could be even puzzle #70?
If someone can answer that, that would be great.
Puzzle 81 is quite safe. I solved Puzzle 80 in about 26 hours (with extremely large memory in BSGS). The bot does not work on that number.
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citb0in
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April 08, 2024, 06:55:32 AM Last edit: April 08, 2024, 10:46:56 AM by citb0in |
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Puzzle 81 is quite safe. I solved Puzzle 80 in about 26 hours (with extremely large memory in BSGS). The bot does not work on that number.
70 bit --> 01min 01sec 79 bit --> 49min 22sec 80 bit --> 56min 24sec 81 bit --> 1h 58min
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Puzzle 81 is quite safe. I solved Puzzle 80 in about 26 hours (with extremely large memory in BSGS). The bot does not work on that number.
min:sec 70 bit --> 01:01 80 bit --> 56:24 nomachine suggest puzzle 79,81... What is your suggestion as the lowest safest puzzle to put your efforts in?
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Hi guys, Nice work! I also did develop my tool, "Colisionador" (collider in spanish), as I do not trust the founds are being sent to the cloud. When you mention the bots war, is it because the private key found is leaked to the cloud? I did program it on C, trying to make if super efficient and fast (I know it is still not as fast as your GPUs tools). I keep the source code closed at the moment, but just ask if you would like to collaborate. You can run the binaries released it if you want: https://github.com/japeral/colisionador_releasesI like to run it in Debian on WSL, running on Windows 10. There is also binaries for ARMv7 and Windows X86. It collides against a sorted list of ripemd160 from public addresses with balance. On 2024-03-22 when I scrapped a fully synced BTC node database with 53994718 addresses (53.9 Million addresses). The list include the 256 pieces of the puzzle also, those with balance 0 and still not 0. You can download the full sorted list of r160's updated up to 2024-03-22 here: https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1mAX4kdXaYSBYYGtgQf30Sw_Zkhl2GC3r&export=download&confirm=yesThe tool, loads the list into RAM, and with a binary search on the sorted list, search each key ripedmd160 against the list in RAM. You can edit the list to target different public addresses with the "-list" parameter. Speed improvements are marginal if the list size is reduced, so I always load the entire list. The search speed is between 15-25K keys/s per CPU thread, depending on the CPU clock. On a AMD Ryzen 7 7730U CPU with 16th threads, the tool searches at 15K keys/s per thread, making a total of ~215K keys/s On a Raspberry pi4, @4 threads, it makes a total of ~31K keys/s. It currently supports CPU only. It spreads the load across all the threads available in the system. I use OpenMP for the parallelization. It computes the: compressed_02, compressed_03, uncompressed_04, compressed_06 and compressed_07 Id's. I am targeting the search space of puzzle 66 (that is all zeros from the left, bit 66 to 1, and the random bits down to bit 0). For that just run the tool with the parameter "-puzzle 66". The lower bits are randomized every 16777215 Keys (000000 - FFFFFF) ~ 15mins of work. Each thread is independent and jumps into a different location inside the puzzle search space. You can run as many instances of the tool, in as many machines you want. Because the random nature of the jumps, the probability of covering the entire search space is even. You could also target all the addresses with balance, just with the parameter "-puzzle 255", against the probability of finding anything. You could use it as a lottery cracker. If a finding happens, the tool saves the result in a found.txt file. It also converts the private key into WIF format for convenience to easily import it into the wallet with importprivkey command. I have a question: How the hell are you finding puzzle pieces 70, 75, 80, 85, etc before puzzle 66, if the search space of those puzzles are much bigger that the puzzle 66 search space? It is also interesting, puzzle pieces: 161-256 are also spent. Is it any other clue to delimit the search space of every puzzle piece? As far as I know: For puzzle 66, search space is: from: 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000200000000000000000000000 to: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
That is: 36893488147419103231 keys to check! Thanks!
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I keep the source code closed at the moment, but just ask if you would like to collaborate. You can run the binaries released it if you want: <link-removed>
I can only expressly warn everyone not to download ready-made binaries from unknown sources and run them on their computer. As long as the source code is not open, you never know what the program is doing in the background. Someone with malicious intentions could use the executed program, for example, to spy on and extract data from your own PC, i.e. it could, for example, read your existing hard disk or RAM data and copy passwords or wallet files out to the INternet on some server. Never ever download programs in .dll or .exe form from unknown sources and never run them. Whether and whom you trust is of course up to you, this is only a well-intentioned warning. The shown program (test.bat) calls a binary executable: colisionador_x86_64.exe -list puzzle_r160list_sorted.csv -puzzle 0 -threads 1 -start_pk_bin 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
as well as all other start scripts listed here. Stay away !
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April 08, 2024, 09:47:31 AM |
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A preventive action is to run the binary in a virtual machine without internet access.
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April 08, 2024, 10:04:30 AM |
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A preventive action is to run the binary in a virtual machine without internet access.
I did program it on C, trying to make if super efficient and fast (I know it is still not as fast as your GPUs tools). I keep the source code closed at the moment, but just ask if you would like to collaborate. You can run the binaries released it if you want: <link-removed>
I like to run it in Debian on WSL, running on Windows 10. There is also binaries for ARMv7 and Windows X86.
you deliberately keep the source code closed, but claim to want to collaborate. This is evidence of cognitive dissonance. Instead, you give the user direct instructions on how to proceed using WSL by means of a supposed "hint". A rogue who thinks evil. Instead, explain why you provide closed-source binaries under the guise of "assistance" and "collaboration". That doesn't make sense, but everyone can decide that for themselves. The warning still applies --> do not download and run closed-sourced binaries if the developer is not trusted, especially if there are not even any advantages to doing so
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April 08, 2024, 10:11:49 AM |
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I am interested to know the nature of the bot wars.
How is it possible the war?
Are the Kangaroo and BSGS tools sending the private key findings to the developers?
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April 08, 2024, 10:44:05 AM |
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I am interested to know the nature of the bot wars.
How is it possible the war?
Are the Kangaroo and BSGS tools sending the private key findings to the developers?
a strange question from someone who develops a tool for brute-forcing the Bitcoin puzzle and, according to his own description, generates pubkeys to check against hash160. If I look at the rest of your repositories, you have several Bitcoin construction sites and therefore your question seems even stranger. You should know enough about priv/pubkeys one would think ( cscanpub ECDSA priv and pub key generator) apart from using tools to hide system information or modify data. For example, the WMI spoofer which spoofs information which other applications read from the Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) information in Windows systems, the WMI static spoofer to bypass HWID detection methods used by intrusive software like anti-cheats, etc., USB emulation to emulate HID devices (e.g. mouse, keyboard, ...), the inserter to replace strings in binaries, AntiOS to disguise hardware identifiers and system fingerprints, etc. etc. etc. and in particular the question raised: Are the Kangaroo and BSGS tools sending the private key findings to the developers?
although everyone knows (and even you) that those tools are open-source. So you are well-known to those tools and how they work, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned them, right? I'm not accusing you of anything, but if I put one and one together and were suspicious by nature, you would be an extreme candidate for this. No offense, but if you really want to collaborate with the community then learn to disclose source code. Otherwise no one will want to work with you, let alone trust you.
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April 08, 2024, 11:03:21 AM Last edit: April 08, 2024, 02:12:14 PM by mprep |
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I discovered the tools yesterday in this other thread! thanks to someone that mentioned them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877935.msg63916232#msg63916232I started my project few years ago, when puzzle-64 still had balance. I was away of this forum for a very long time. I like to fork projects I like, to keep them on the radar, not making any contribution to it. That does not mean I understand all the projects I have on my github. So I have no idea which kind of bad person you think I am. Might be your paranoia comes from a reflection of what you are. If you don't trust my binaries, Ok, just don't run them. Your awareness message was fair enough for the community. But, they can be ran safely in VM if you are still curious. It is my work, It is my choice to open the source or not. I hope you understand it. I am open to collaborate in private repo. My code is still not good to show, plenty of shit that needs to be cleaned. I am not very proud of it. The motivation creating my own tool was I didn't trust the LBC collider project (I do not understand perl), and I didn't trust the creators. I see you have done very good progress here with the GPU versions. I am still interested to know why puzzle 70, 75, 80, 85, get solved before 66. Is it any way of constraining the search space of puzzle-66 ? I made some statistic analysis as well and the bits of the known private keys are pretty randomly allocated in the space. I would like to understand the bot wars as well... I have to confess I didn't read this thread completely, my apologies if the answers are already here. Thanks.
Can anyone please be so kind and explain to me what it means that some public keys from this puzzle (like task 130 but not task 66 for example) have been found which makes kangaroo and keyhunt with bsgs mode possible?
I thought we know public addresses as they hold the reward and the task is to find the suitable public key from a reduced key range. So what does it mean that the public key for task 130 is known and is 03633cbe3ec02b9401c5effa144c5b4d22f87940259634858fc7e59b1c09937852? I literally don't understand this.
Thank you
There are private keys , public keys and addresses. These are three different things. You can use BSGS or Kangaroo modes only on public keys but not on addresses. The known public keys in this whole challenge were intentionally released by it's creator. If you see an outgoing transactions in given address history you can easily check it's public key and try the BSGS or Kangaroo modes. When you have just address without any outgoing transactions your only method is to blindly guessing private keys in hope you will find one which corresponds to address. Currently finding 66bit privkey without knows public key can be considered as hard as finding 130bit privkey with public key known. Thank you very much for the explanation! My tool uses the hard way, private key to ripemd160 and then search on the list of ripemd160 with balance. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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April 08, 2024, 01:32:14 PM Merited by albert0bsd (1) |
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I’m seeing so many variations of software throughout this thread and the other one. If I wanted to randomly let my pc waste electricity on weekends doing a random search for #66, what would be my best bet?
Use the program as you wish, but from puzzle 79, 81, 82, 83 and above. Or, ask someone with knowledge about timings which is the lowest feasible puzzle to be solved that will leave enough time to withdraw without a bot snatchingup. I don't know this answer, could be even puzzle #70?
If someone can answer that, that would be great.
Puzzle 81 is quite safe. I solved Puzzle 80 in about 26 hours (with extremely large memory in BSGS). The bot does not work on that number. Nothing below 100, is really safe. Especially with all this time in between the solving of puzzles. Kangaroo would still be the program to use, IMO, that's what I would use anyway. Not BSGS, although one could if they had everything prebuilt and ready to go.
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