Yet another analyst :)

[lucif]

true

[arepo]

The orderbook can indicate demand but it can also have misleading information, which is what you are trying to say. That in itself does not prove demand cannot be indicated. Even the disingenuous information may indicate a greater truth. While it is not reliable information, it is information.

if large sellers think that not placing large orders on the orderbook will thin out the ask side and trick fools like you into thinking the market is more bullish than it is, then they are incentivised to do so and sell out on your funds. not only is some of the data false, it is also incomplete. the representation bias is immense and trading based on the shape of the orderbook is never a good idea.

[lucif]

Here is some education info about pennants From last days.

[S3052]

lucif,

seriously, I do not understand what you are doing here.

First, you subscribe to my service and you are still a subscriber for many more months
Then you come up with your own technical analysis
Then you decide to be bearish in contrast to the subscriber service, tricking some people into the completely wrong direction (you have been bearish since 13.5 $ and since then prices rallied about 30%.
Then you copy some of the views I give exclusively to subscribers (like the 50% retracement chart, etc.) which you are not allowed to

Apart from the fact that this is not fair, you may influence others and make them lose money.

I do not understand.
Perhaps someone who is neutral can judge about this?

[lucif]

Blue guy, I don't copy you, and don't copy anyone.

Please tell in which point I copy you? To draw retracement? Every school boy doing this to define resistances. Its a two mouse moves.

[lucif]

S3052 abused me in copyright violation. Hehe.

He copyrighted 50% retracement from 32 to 2 at 17.

Okay, I'll go to history of your updates and search for this.

Do I share your targets? No.

Do I share your quotes? No.

Do I share your indicators interpretation? No.

Maybe you also should copyright this font?

Or maybe you just keep too much funds in Bitcoins? Hehe.

[lucif]

Ah... Probably this!

But here I use Bollinger Band, not moving averages envelope, as you do.

This message was 20 Jan 2013.

And your similar point hinting new huge rally was in short term update at 21 Jan 2013.

You copy me!

Some porn for bulls to jerk on 



However we are heavily ovebought. Move up will start bubble.

[S3052]

Let just do the following. I remove you from my subscriber list and refund your bitcoins. Then there is no potential conflict any more.

[lucif]

I don't see a conflict. I refuse refund.

[ElectricMucus]

Let just do the following. I remove you from my subscriber list and refund your bitcoins. Then there is no potential conflict any more.

Just do it.

(I would be actually against it but that's just because I not want to miss out of some tasty drama   )

[lucif]

Why when I standing in opposite direction and criticism position - cypher and S3052 ask me for refund? Are you kidz?

Are you abusing me for drawing 50% Fibbonaci retracement and shown that on public? It's a everybody known resistance levels.

What the fuck? Someone please judge this.

[myself]

[siulynot]

lucif,

seriously, I do not understand what you are doing here.

First, you subscribe to my service and you are still a subscriber for many more months
Then you come up with your own technical analysis
Then you decide to be bearish in contrast to the subscriber service, tricking some people into the completely wrong direction (you have been bearish since 13.5 $ and since then prices rallied about 30%.
Then you copy some of the views I give exclusively to subscribers (like the 50% retracement chart, etc.) which you are not allowed to

Apart from the fact that this is not fair, you may influence others and make them lose money.

I do not understand.
Perhaps someone who is neutral can judge about this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98606.msg1296791#msg1296791

So I have been violating your copyrights in the Spanish forum since october, and im not even subscribed to your newsletter... nice to know...

Oh wait!!!! Isnt it you the one who is violating my copyrights???

[S3052]

Why when I standing in opposite direction and criticism position - cypher and S3052 ask me for refund? Are you kidz?

Are you abusing me for drawing 50% Fibbonaci retracement and shown that on public? It's a everybody known resistance levels.

What the fuck? Someone please judge this.

It is not really about the fact that you are using fib numbers and common indicators.

It is because you get many special analyses per week and a 10+ page newsletter every week and then start a thread abiut the same thing: bitcoin technical analysis.

even if you do not copy anything directly from my service, reading it will at least impact you and this is not honest practice.
i know many financial advisers and newsletters who do not permit this, nor do I.

Why don't you accept that I return your bitcoins and then you do not have any financial loss.
And then you can carry on with your analyses in an unbiased fashion.

[lucif]

And you are insider trader, keeping most of people your exreamly bullish point of view. It is also not honest.

I just keep people balanced, providing opposite point of view. For free. It is their choice - follow me or you.

Yes, I learn TA for last two years by reading books and subscriptions.

Since you accepted my payment - please provide full services for that public offering I had paid.

I see conflict only in your refund offer. Reasons? Honesty is not a reason for me. Did I violate something?

[lucif]

You know, fuck the honesty. The real reason for this bullshit is what I am sit in cash since $17 and you sit in Bitcoins since I dont know. Hehe. Thats the reason.

Hovewer I dont see this upward move fully completed

[lucif]

Volumed breakout through $16.95 resistance. Next resistance is next stop point. If candle closed above.

[oakpacific]

Why when I standing in opposite direction and criticism position - cypher and S3052 ask me for refund? Are you kidz?

Are you abusing me for drawing 50% Fibbonaci retracement and shown that on public? It's a everybody known resistance levels.

What the fuck? Someone please judge this.

It is not really about the fact that you are using fib numbers and common indicators.

It is because you get many special analyses per week and a 10+ page newsletter every week and then start a thread abiut the same thing: bitcoin technical analysis.

even if you do not copy anything directly from my service, reading it will at least impact you and this is not honest practice.
i know many financial advisers and newsletters who do not permit this, nor do I.

Why don't you accept that I return your bitcoins and then you do not have any financial loss.
And then you can carry on with your analyses in an unbiased fashion.

It's not that difficult to take unilateral action, no? Or maybe next time you should put the following notice on all the newsletters and correspondences " Strictly subscribers only. The service provider reserves the right to terminate all subscription services, providing that any remaining balance is refunded to the bitcoin address used for subscription. No service would be provided to a competitor."

[lucif]

1. I am not a competitor. I don't know why paid analytics compete with my thoughts which are free for all. Hehe
2. I do not provide paid services
3. I do not share any part of analytics conclusions

[deadweasel]

Here's how it sits with me:

If you don't want Lucif learning from your analyses, remove him from your subscriber list.  

If he used one of your charts or quotes in this thread, prove it in a post and remove him from your subscriber list.  

Expecting people to subscribe and never speak a word of your analyses is ignorant.  Information cannot be contained once you send it on the internet.  Like a bitcoin, if you send it, it's now theirs to do as they please.  The analyzer subscription 'service' model here is not a strong one for this reason.  The copyrights and agreements associated with them cannot be depended upon.  Like when you click through a microsoft license.  

This might be a reason to change the model.

But frankly, if you think lucif is stealing customers or potential customer, I don't think that's the case.  The subscription services are guesses at best -- most people know that they aren't going to make more money listening to you, in fact, losting 2.5 bitcoins a months pretty much seals the deal.

My 2 cents are pretty worthless, like all analyses, but here they are for all the world to share.