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December 21, 2016, 06:45:31 PM |
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I think it is not correct to compare the numbers. With the increasing development of science improved the weapons and methods of destruction. So the numbers are constantly growing. But the goals of the Inquisition and terrorists are different. They hate Muslims.
I understand. I don't know if you are right, maybe so. In other words, today's terrorist kill count cannot be compared to yesterday's Inquisition. I do feel that there is no "moral equivalency." If the numbers can be compared, then today's Islam is 100-1000x more violent than yesterday's Christians. If the numbers cannot be compared, then it is impossible to say that yesterday's Christians are as brutal as today's Islam. Either argument accepts as a premise the barbaric, brutal nature of Islam today. And that's Islam as a whole - it includes the good, peaceful muslims and the violent extremists.
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December 22, 2016, 02:39:04 AM |
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I think it is not correct to compare the numbers. With the increasing development of science improved the weapons and methods of destruction. So the numbers are constantly growing. But the goals of the Inquisition and terrorists are different. They hate Muslims.
I understand. I don't know if you are right, maybe so. In other words, today's terrorist kill count cannot be compared to yesterday's Inquisition. I do feel that there is no "moral equivalency." If the numbers can be compared, then today's Islam is 100-1000x more violent than yesterday's Christians. If the numbers cannot be compared, then it is impossible to say that yesterday's Christians are as brutal as today's Islam. Either argument accepts as a premise the barbaric, brutal nature of Islam today. And that's Islam as a whole - it includes the good, peaceful muslims and the violent extremists. Historical documents show that Inquisition killed around 6k people. Bolsevik atheists killed around 66 mio people ( direct and indirect), US Capital punishment (more than 20k not including few million of indians) about of 200k aborigines were killed in Australia. Millions of people have been killed by romans Around 1mio civilians were killed due American invasion. What about Syria? Congo? Vietnam? Remember of Vendee Massacre ( French Revolution) should I continue? You don't need religion to kill. It's in your blood. Let's talking about animals, more than 500 mio animals are killed annually by cosmetics industry (just for women pleasure) what about sport hunting? To compare Inquisition with other mass murder is BULLSHIT! What about asian countries? they are not christians or muslims ( I'm not talking about Indonesia) People have been killed each other over and over again. It's all about supremacy, resources, glory etc.. Remenber the 6th commandament : You should not kill! I'm an orthodox christian ( I don't hate Muslims, Buddhists, atheists) My religion does not allow me to hate.
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Spendulus
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December 22, 2016, 03:53:22 AM |
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I think it is not correct to compare the numbers. With the increasing development of science improved the weapons and methods of destruction. So the numbers are constantly growing. But the goals of the Inquisition and terrorists are different. They hate Muslims.
I understand. I don't know if you are right, maybe so. In other words, today's terrorist kill count cannot be compared to yesterday's Inquisition. I do feel that there is no "moral equivalency." If the numbers can be compared, then today's Islam is 100-1000x more violent than yesterday's Christians. If the numbers cannot be compared, then it is impossible to say that yesterday's Christians are as brutal as today's Islam. Either argument accepts as a premise the barbaric, brutal nature of Islam today. And that's Islam as a whole - it includes the good, peaceful muslims and the violent extremists. Historical documents show that Inquisition killed around 6k people. Bolsevik atheists killed around 66 mio people ( direct and indirect), US Capital punishment (more than 20k not including few million of indians) about of 200k aborigines were killed in Australia. Millions of people have been killed by romans Around 1mio civilians were killed due American invasion. What about Syria? Congo? Vietnam? Remember of Vendee Massacre ( French Revolution) should I continue? You don't need religion to kill. It's in your blood. Let's talking about animals, more than 500 mio animals are killed annually by cosmetics industry (just for women pleasure) what about sport hunting? To compare Inquisition with other mass murder is BULLSHIT! What about asian countries? they are not christians or muslims ( I'm not talking about Indonesia) People have been killed each other over and over again. It's all about supremacy, resources, glory etc.. Remenber the 6th commandament : You should not kill! I'm an orthodox christian ( I don't hate Muslims, Buddhists, atheists) My religion does not allow me to hate. See bolded above. When you speak for yourself, I agree and support your position. When or if you speak for Muslims, apparently you are wrong. The suicide bombers and other whack jobs of Islam kill for Islam. About 3000 per month, another 3000 injured. They need Islam to kill.
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Tyrantt
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December 22, 2016, 04:00:00 AM |
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No. But do you mean the religion or the people themselves?
Because there are just humans like us. There is always a common notion that classifies us.
Yes, they are humans like us , Hitler was a human like us, Stalin too... that doesn't mean that people do not hate them... not really muslims by themselves but muslims are the most prone to extremism due to their teachings. I mean, you'venever seen a christian or a buddhist blowing themselves up in the name of their god...
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December 22, 2016, 06:16:08 AM |
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Neutral attitude, I do not have racial discrimination, there is no deep-rooted religious beliefs.
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ghostON
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December 22, 2016, 06:28:13 AM |
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What did they ever do to you. I don't see hate against Christians when they kill shit loads of people too.
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December 22, 2016, 08:24:37 AM |
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What did they ever do to you. I don't see hate against Christians when they kill shit loads of people too.
I think he had a bad experience in his side and you're right that not all muslim are againts to christian but most of them are againts to christianism and they killing christian too if they noticed that you are christian i don't get the point why kill christian? to hate them??
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December 22, 2016, 11:21:59 AM |
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Muslims are very aggressive. I hate them. If they lived near me I'd do anything to be resettled. Now Germany is paying the price for what they have brought down the iron curtain of emigration from European countries and launched to these bastards
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December 22, 2016, 05:08:37 PM |
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A bad or a good person does not depend on his religion or faith or beliefs or his race or region but on his upbringing and the people who influence
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December 22, 2016, 05:19:39 PM |
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A bad or a good person does not depend on his religion or faith or beliefs or his race or region but on his upbringing and the people who influence
Can't agree with your post. I have seen highly educated Muslims committing terrorist acts. I have seen Muslims born and brought up in Western nations blowing up people in casinos and pubs. So it has nothing to do with upbringing.
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December 22, 2016, 05:48:46 PM |
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Muslims are very aggressive. I hate them. If they lived near me I'd do anything to be resettled. Now Germany is paying the price for what they have brought down the iron curtain of emigration from European countries and launched to these bastards
I have met so many muslims, sure they can be aggressive but then I can meet black or white people that are frankly worse. We can't let fear from one person allow it to reflect a whole religion or people. Just my opinion
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December 22, 2016, 05:55:02 PM |
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A bad or a good person does not depend on his religion or faith or beliefs or his race or region but on his upbringing and the people who influence
Can't agree with your post. I have seen highly educated Muslims committing terrorist acts. I have seen Muslims born and brought up in Western nations blowing up people in casinos and pubs. So it has nothing to do with upbringing. I think that single parenting is not enough. It is also important education. If a person is educated he will not believe in any religion. Moreover, he's smart enough to understand that the Islamists use it to their advantage.
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December 22, 2016, 05:56:33 PM |
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Muslims are very aggressive. I hate them. If they lived near me I'd do anything to be resettled. Now Germany is paying the price for what they have brought down the iron curtain of emigration from European countries and launched to these bastards
I have met so many muslims, sure they can be aggressive but then I can meet black or white people that are frankly worse.
We can't let fear from one person allow it to reflect a whole religion or people. Just my opinion I frankly am skeptical that you have met black or white people that are worse. Anyway, if muslims are not black or white people what are they?
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December 23, 2016, 03:40:33 AM |
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Muslims are very aggressive. I hate them. If they lived near me I'd do anything to be resettled. Now Germany is paying the price for what they have brought down the iron curtain of emigration from European countries and launched to these bastards
I have met so many muslims, sure they can be aggressive but then I can meet black or white people that are frankly worse.
We can't let fear from one person allow it to reflect a whole religion or people. Just my opinion I frankly am skeptical that you have met black or white people that are worse. Anyway, if muslims are not black or white people what are they? hahahah a missing link between a man and an ape. Muslims are the ones that get pissed off easily, I've had a game where I try to piss off a muslim guy on an islamic webpage, he was like a live support, untill he writes in all caps. Sadly, I've forgot the websites name. :/
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Tyrantt
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December 23, 2016, 03:43:11 AM |
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A bad or a good person does not depend on his religion or faith or beliefs or his race or region but on his upbringing and the people who influence
but you see, let's take islamist extremists.. They are influenced by religion (faith, beliefs) that is most popular like 99% in that region, if he was a muslim in some peaceful god forbidden land, I doubt that he will be all like "ALLAHU AKBAR!" that much while killing people around.. So it does depend on religion, beliefs, faith and region... Race can also have influence.
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December 23, 2016, 03:45:11 AM |
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What did they ever do to you. I don't see hate against Christians when they kill shit loads of people too.
When was the last time that someone killed a number of people in the name of a christian God? I remember the last time, also known as the last crusades and that was really some time ago, while muslims still live in the middle ages...
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December 23, 2016, 04:38:50 AM |
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Islam really is a more understanding of the more hate his things. Before we all believe that extreme Muslims are a minority, which is heterogeneous, but now when Muslim is more and more widely in our side, affect our lives, we opened the gift [] [] moderate Muslims began to doubt that the panda true
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December 23, 2016, 05:10:32 AM |
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My recently being attacked by terorist ( ISIS were behind of it ) As we know ISIS mostly made by islam. They must be stop from now or they can do more worse
ISIS Not made by islam ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , we dont bealive thats in our religion we must live with respect with another and killing is not us, you can see moslem and another religion can leave peace in our country Indonesian so i dont bealive what you says ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 23, 2016, 05:20:00 AM |
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If so, why?
No , But I think the most of movies are showing Muslims as an terresrist that is Not fair . But I think our brothers Muslims religion' people needs to prove themselves as against the Muslim terresit( some underworld people like daud ) they should openly take heartly action activity socially directly .
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December 23, 2016, 06:11:33 AM |
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No , But I think the most of movies are showing Muslims as an terresrist that is Not fair .
It is fair. 99.99% of the terrorist incidents in the world are being perpetrated by religious Muslims. So it is fair to depict terrorists as Muslims. If you are getting offended by this, then you should ask your clerics why almost all the terrorists are Muslims. I have never seen a Christian or a Hindu blowing up in public place killing civilians.
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