[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[Poly#Crypto]

 
The first International Conferences in 2017:


San Francisco Bitcoin Meetup | 31st January - San Francisco/CA/USA
Sidechains and Lisk - An evening with Max Kordek
Info | Facebook
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New Finance Meetup NYC |1st February - New York City /USA
Info


Visit the Forum Topic Lisk: Conferences and Meetings, Infos and Summaries

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[MalReynolds]

If the prospects are just .1 (REAL LSK, not testnet tokens), I'm sure only 20% would get involved for the Testnet and Meinnet.

And you're not there. I've read your comments to Lisk and Iconomi, you're just a profit hunter

Dude, I was running a Crypti testnet node way before Max and Oliver forked Crypti into Lisk.  I was in your "20%" that got involved in this sidechain project when the PROSPECT of profit was ZERO.

Sure, I'm a profit hunter.  If you're not, you are not playing this crypto game correctly.  But I'm not "just" a profit hunter.  The reason I am sticking around to run a Lisk node is because I hate wasteful mining and I believe in javascript sidechains as a key future technology worth developing.

[MrPresident]

And you're not there. I've read your comments to Lisk and Iconomi, you're just a profit hunter

If you're not "profit-hunting", you're in the wrong place.

[thandie]

And you're not there. I've read your comments to Lisk and Iconomi, you're just a profit hunter

If you're not "profit-hunting", you're in the wrong place.

You're not the right person for a serious discussion about "profIT" & crypto.
How many accounts you have on Bitcointalk?  ... Phoenix, sockpuppet, scammer  or whatever.

[thandie]

If the prospects are just .1 (REAL LSK, not testnet tokens), I'm sure only 20% would get involved for the Testnet and Meinnet.

And you're not there. I've read your comments to Lisk and Iconomi, you're just a profit hunter

Dude, I was running a Crypti testnet node way before Max and Oliver forked Crypti into Lisk.  I was in your "20%" that got involved in this sidechain project when the PROSPECT of profit was ZERO.

Sure, I'm a profit hunter.  If you're not, you are not playing this crypto game correctly.  But I'm not "just" a profit hunter.  The reason I am sticking around to run a Lisk node is because I hate wasteful mining and I believe in javascript sidechains as a key future technology worth developing.

I remember you were very active at the beginning, especially with your fat fat lyrics.

What are you doing now for Lisk?
I read the forum(Lisk, not Iconomi  ), I have a chat account, but you are absent.
Okay, some stupid questions like "How can I reload the client" but otherwise?
Some nonsensical lists like "I'm the best donor, vote for me" here, but otherwise?

Honestly? I would vote for you. You're not unsympathetic. But please do not make the Lisk-BigMac.

[wariner]

Hi guys,

I wanted to thank everyone who voted for me, thank you for your trust.

Good luck for the banner contest! I do not have a lot of creativity   

[BitBanksy]

The first International Conferences in 2017:


San Francisco Bitcoin Meetup | 31st January - San Francisco/CA/USA
Sidechains and Lisk - An evening with Max Kordek
Info | Facebook
.
New Finance Meetup NYC |1st February - New York City /USA
Info


Visit the Forum Topic Lisk: Conferences and Meetings, Infos and Summaries

Great sum up Poly! Busy week ahead

Let's not forget about the first 2017 Community Meeting on January 29th, 2017 at 18:00 CET: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1373

[MalReynolds]

In other news....the entire crypto world changed forever last night.....the Chinese government has forced new rules on BTC trading.

“The exchanges are cutting their arms off to stay alive,” said Zhou Shuoji, whose Fintech Blockchain Group runs a bitcoin hedge fund and venture capital fund.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-24/chinese-bitcoin-trading-volumes-crash-90-overnight

[Poly#Crypto]

The first International Conferences in 2017:


San Francisco Bitcoin Meetup | 31st January - San Francisco/CA/USA
Sidechains and Lisk - An evening with Max Kordek
Info | Facebook
.
New Finance Meetup NYC |1st February - New York City /USA
Info


Visit the Forum Topic Lisk: Conferences and Meetings, Infos and Summaries

Great sum up Poly! Busy week ahead

Let's not forget about the first 2017 Community Meeting on January 29th, 2017 at 18:00 CET: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1373

Yes, busy... I'm on work yet with tablet 

Notes on upcoming meetings are also listed in the forum topic.
Below are listed all the Conferences and Meeting of 2016, including the links to the announcements and summaries.

[carolinaliskdelegate]

This is a follow up on my recent post with some more details. I will also later do another post in reply to some of the recent responses that were given.

As is documented here I was voted out of GDT https://electionbuddy.com/elections/37932/results/ud2fkynx7 . The reasons were that I had not voted one particular individual with my personal holding, and that allegedly I wrote negative words about GDT in my transparency report.

In the first weeks of January the Slack channels of GDT were given some bots for vote tracking (made by Hagie) that could indicate if a member of GDT had not given votes to another one. This bot was then played several times by a new member with name Hagie (who I did not know then) in order to make his cause that I would have to vote him. This came also with a threat from other sides that if I do not vote as they want there will be head-rolling by Jan. 15. It was then unclear to me why Hagie was in GDT and on what criteria he was selected. From what I found out he came into the Slack channel on invitation in the role of observer for another new member. From this status he gained permanent access to the Slack channel, and finally was declared a member from above. It then also came to my attention that he obtained many outside votes from the Robinhood pool where he was presented as “mentor”, through running a scheme that required to vote Hagie for getting a higher payout. Besides that, Hagie acted very bossy, was pressing for votes, calling me with the a-word and became the key-figure in establishing a totally new regime at GDT. There were many more red flags for me then (and even more later) for why I would not vote Hagie for personal reasons (more details can be provided).

There was also the issue that at that time GDT had brought in many other new members based on their voting weight without requiring them to make a significant distribution or contribution for the benefit of Lisk. This was the reason for my comment in the transparency report.

Then there was also the issue that GDT was never interested in choosing certain qualified delegates. For instance I previously had made the proposal to support some developers from Shift (only with votes from forging reserves). As many might not be aware of, Shift is developing an ambitious project based on Lisk https://www.shiftnrg.org/newsletter. Some developers from Shift also work on the code for Lisk, while Shift is much worse funded. I also made the proposal to consider a candidate who had a background as cryptographer and was one of the winners for his delegate proposal (he even had some voting power). There was also the issue that they ignored a certain other candidate who could claim some trajectory in Lisk based on early participation. In the months that I participated in Lisk a number of developers showed up in the chat and forums, but there were no visible attempts by GDT to acquire valuable human resources. The concept of high block rewards actually attracts qualified developers, but GDT is preventing it from how it could work.

If some might want to know why I was in GDT. The answer is that I previously was in a different group that was merged with GDT, without me personally consenting to it and being left with no other choice. At that time it also appeared that GDT was in a new beginning. Some might recall that I had posted a critical comment about the governance of GDT on the Lisk forum in May, pointing out that the list of members is created by a single individual, Vega.

The short outline above is a summary of my experience with GDT. In addition, I would like to be explicit on why I see GDT as a scam and a threat:

• GDT is centralizing delegates, as basically a single individual is doing the list of delegates. GDT has no statute or real democratic organization.
• GDT is a cartel. They are not just a group of some mutual voters. They deliberately seek to maintain a number of 80+ members in order to seize all forging rewards and prevent competitors.
• GDT is a buddy scheme. Everything goes if it is to the liking of the leadership.
• GDT is undermining the consensus mechanism and is practicing collusion. With most recent conduct there is direct enforcement of the voting of its delegate members.
• GDT has no benefit for Lisk. GDT is not operating in a way that it seeks to return a surplus for Lisk from forged LSK. In particular it is not attempting to acquire valuable developers for Lisk projects as it was envisaged for the forging rewards.
• GDT is not preventing whales, or the “rich from getting richer”. Recently they rushed in many high stake holdings, even some of those they had previously labeled as their adversaries. The members of GDT themselves are striving to amass a holding from forging rewards that would make each a whale.
• GDT is not a better alternative to pools (as they promote themselves). In fact, GDT is associated with pools, used them for pushing some of their members, and members even proposed to launch GDT pools.
• GDT is not essential for the operation of the testnet and the mainnet. While in fact a lot of work was contributed to this, most work on scripts, applications, snapshot servers, real feedback on testing etc. is done by only a relatively small number of participants.

https://carolinaliskdelegate.wordpress.com/

[hagie]

In the first weeks of January the Slack channels of GDT were given some bots for vote tracking (made by Hagie) that could indicate if a member of GDT had not given votes to another one. This bot was then played several times by a new member with name Hagie (who I did not know then) in order to make his cause that I would have to vote him. This came also with a threat from other sides that if I do not vote as they want there will be head-rolling by Jan. 15. It was then unclear to me why Hagie was in GDT and on what criteria he was selected. From what I found out he came into the Slack channel on invitation in the role of observer for another new member. From this status he gained permanent access to the Slack channel, and finally was declared a member from above. It then also came to my attention that he obtained many outside votes from the Robinhood pool where he was presented as “mentor”, through running a scheme that required to vote Hagie for getting a higher payout. Besides that, Hagie acted very bossy, was pressing for votes, calling me with the a-word and became the key-figure in establishing a totally new regime at GDT. There were many more red flags for me then (and even more later) for why I would not vote Hagie for personal reasons (more details can be provided).

To make this short. Please anyone who believe these words, please go and read the chat log posts from carolina about our conversations and build your own picture. Yes at one particular time I lost my manners and say some bad things .. more than just the a-word , but please read the logs and you will understand.

Thanks
Regards

[Vega]

To make this short. Please anyone who believe these words, please go and read the chat log posts from carolina about our conversations and build your own picture

Thats about sums it up from me too. I don't indent to engage, or point out the countless factual errors and contradictory statements, as I don't really care (and as I'm apparently controling GDT, the lisk delegate system, and probably the known universe I don't have to care). Anyone interested can read the chat log.
But in reality we all know what will happen. More whining from pro-pool guys, nothing more. Everyone else have better things to do.

(ps: As an ironic sidenote, I voted for carolina to stay, even advocated for it. Its there in the chat log.)

[PredatorX]

Don't hesitate to vote for pools and delegates who make a profit for your voters.


liskpool_com_01 - 85% profit
liskpool_com_02
liskpool_com_03
liskpool_com_04
liskpool_com_05
liskpool_com_06
liskpool_com_07
liskpool_com_08
liskpool_com_09
liskpool_com_10
liskpool_com_11
liskpool_com_12
liskpool_com_13
liskpool_com_14
liskpool_com_15
liskpool_com_16
liskpool_com_17
liskpool_com_18
liskpool_com_19
liskpool_com_20 - 85%
thepool - 75% profit        
shinekami  - 85% profit
liskpool.top -  90% profit
rooney - 30% profit
adliskpool - 100%, profit
azuredelegatepool - 50% - profit
badman0316 - 50% profit
highrollerspool - 80% profit
phinx  - 50%, profit
lisk.pool.sexy - 80% profit
olejegcord - 75% profit

[cannabanana]

This is a follow up on my recent post with some more details. I will also later do another post in reply to some of the recent responses that were given.

As is documented here I was voted out of GDT https://electionbuddy.com/elections/37932/results/ud2fkynx7 . The reasons were that I had not voted one particular candidate with my personal holding, and that allegedly I wrote negative words about GDT in my transparency report.

In the first weeks of January the Slack channels of GDT were given some bots for vote tracking (made by Hagie) that could indicate if a member of GDT had not given votes to another one. This bot was then played several times by a new member with name Hagie (who I did not know then) in order to make his cause that I would have to vote him. This came also with a threat from other sides that if I do not vote as they want there will be head-rolling by Jan. 15. It was then unclear to me why Hagie was in GDT and on what criteria he was selected. From what I found out he came into the Slack channel on invitation in the role of observer for another new member. From this status he gained permanent access to the Slack channel, and finally was declared a member from above. It then also came to my attention that he obtained many outside votes from the Robinhood pool where he was presented as “mentor”, through running a scheme that required to vote Hagie for getting a higher payout. Besides that, Hagie acted very bossy, was pressing for votes, calling me with the a-word and became the key-figure in establishing a totally new regime at GDT. There were many more red flags for me then (and even more later) for why I would not vote Hagie for personal reasons (more details can be provided).

There was also the issue that at that time GDT had brought in many other new members based on their voting weight without requiring them to make a significant distribution or contribution for the benefit of Lisk. This was the reason for my comment in the transparency report.

Then there was also the issue that GDT was never interested in choosing certain qualified delegates. For instance I previously had made the proposal to support some developers from Shift. As many might not be aware of, Shift is developing an ambitious project based on Lisk https://www.shiftnrg.org/newsletter. Some developers from Shift also work on the code for Lisk, while Shift is much worse funded. I also made the proposal to consider a candidate who had a background as cryptographer and was one of the winners for his delegate proposal (he even had some voting power). There was also the issue that they ignored certain other candidates who could claim some trajectory in Lisk based on early participation. In the months that I participated in Lisk a number of developers showed up in the chat and forums, but there were no visible attempts by GDT to acquire valuable human resources. The concept of high block rewards actually attracts qualified developers, but GDT is preventing it from how it could work.

If some might want to know why I was in GDT. The answer is that I previously was in a different group that was merged with GDT, without me personally consenting to it and being left with no other choice. At that time it also appeared that GDT was in a new beginning. Some might recall that I had posted a critical comment about the governance of GDT on the Lisk forum in May, pointing out that the list of members is created by a single individual, Vega.

The short outline above is a summary of my experience with GDT. In addition, I would like to be explicit on why I see GDT as a scam and a threat:

• GDT is centralizing delegates, as basically a single individual is doing the list of delegates. GDT has no statute or real democratic organization.
• GDT is a cartel. They are not just a group of some mutual voters. They deliberately seek to maintain a number of 80+ members in order to seize all forging rewards and prevent competitors.
• GDT is a buddy scheme. Everything goes if it is to the liking of the leadership.
• GDT is undermining the consensus mechanism and is practicing collusion. With most recent conduct there is direct enforcement of the voting of its delegate members.
• GDT has no benefit for Lisk. GDT is not operating in a way that it seeks to return a surplus for Lisk from forged LSK. In particular it is not attempting to acquire valuable developers for Lisk projects as it was envisaged for the forging rewards.
• GDT is not preventing whales, or the “rich from getting richer”. Recently they rushed in many high stake holdings, even some of those they had previously labeled as their adversaries. The members of GDT themselves are striving to amass a holding from forging awards that would make each a whale.
• GDT is not a better alternative to pools. In fact, GDT is associated with pools, used them for pushing some of their members, and members even proposed to launch GDT pools.
• GDT is not essential for the operation of the testnet and the mainnet. While in fact a lot of work was contributed to this, most work on scripts, applications, snapshot servers, real feedback on testing etc. is done by only a relatively small number of participants.

https://carolinaliskdelegate.wordpress.com/

I don't really like posting here but this kinda blatant Lies and Bullshit is so overly retarded I had to say something.

So your other group doesn't make the rich richer?  You ARE the Rich mother fucker with 400k Lisk!  25% of the GDT were allowed into the group with ZERO Lisk because they supported LISK with their time and effort.

Are you sure GDT has no benefit to Lisk?  I'm pretty sure you're just mad and talking shit cause we've done a lot for lisk already.

Let's do 100% pools, I bet you we can make more off of pools than single delegates if this is your dumb argument.

the people you are talking about who make the scripts.....they're all in the GDT so the GDT was in fact the one that made lisk stable with their code.  SHOW me One fucking script or thing your group has done for Lisk and I'll show you 10 that GDT has done but I bet you can't even explain ONE fucking thing your group has done for the success of lisk.

while I've only seen you here the past month, the people in the GDT were here since day fucking 1 even WITHOUT Forging.

If GDT left right now, packed up and went home.  Lisk would crash fast as fuck.  GL forging coins that never get to hit the next block and be sure we'd take all our scripts and code with us.


What a pathetic loser you are.  Some of the most disgusting behavior ive seen here in this thread and there's a lot of turds floating around in this punch bowl.   Are you sure you are an adult?

[PredatorX]

Let's do 100% pools

Let's go!!!!

[Vega]

This is a perfect opportunity to me to mention that yesterday I released a new version of my voting tool. (Windows only)

This is a complete rewrite, different UI, I think this makes handling multiple voting accounts much easier.
For feature list, changes and notes please visit the lisk forum thread.
You can get the tool from github.

Give it a try, if you vote from multiple account and/or vote frequently it can make life easier. If you have any feedback please post it in the thread on lisk forum.

The tool can even be used to find and vote pools more easily , see:

[thandie]

This is a follow up on my recent post with some more details. I will also later do another post in reply to some of the recent responses that were given.

As is documented here I was voted out of GDT https://electionbuddy.com/elections/37932/results/ud2fkynx7 . The reasons were that I had not voted one particular individual with my personal holding, and that allegedly I wrote negative words about GDT in my transparency report.

In the first weeks of January the Slack channels of GDT were given some bots for vote tracking (made by Hagie) that could indicate if a member of GDT had not given votes to another one. This bot was then played several times by a new member with name Hagie (who I did not know then) in order to make his cause that I would have to vote him. This came also with a threat from other sides that if I do not vote as they want there will be head-rolling by Jan. 15. It was then unclear to me why Hagie was in GDT and on what criteria he was selected. From what I found out he came into the Slack channel on invitation in the role of observer for another new member. From this status he gained permanent access to the Slack channel, and finally was declared a member from above. It then also came to my attention that he obtained many outside votes from the Robinhood pool where he was presented as “mentor”, through running a scheme that required to vote Hagie for getting a higher payout. Besides that, Hagie acted very bossy, was pressing for votes, calling me with the a-word and became the key-figure in establishing a totally new regime at GDT. There were many more red flags for me then (and even more later) for why I would not vote Hagie for personal reasons (more details can be provided).

There was also the issue that at that time GDT had brought in many other new members based on their voting weight without requiring them to make a significant distribution or contribution for the benefit of Lisk. This was the reason for my comment in the transparency report.

Then there was also the issue that GDT was never interested in choosing certain qualified delegates. For instance I previously had made the proposal to support some developers from Shift. As many might not be aware of, Shift is developing an ambitious project based on Lisk https://www.shiftnrg.org/newsletter. Some developers from Shift also work on the code for Lisk, while Shift is much worse funded. I also made the proposal to consider a candidate who had a background as cryptographer and was one of the winners for his delegate proposal (he even had some voting power). There was also the issue that they ignored certain other candidates who could claim some trajectory in Lisk based on early participation. In the months that I participated in Lisk a number of developers showed up in the chat and forums, but there were no visible attempts by GDT to acquire valuable human resources. The concept of high block rewards actually attracts qualified developers, but GDT is preventing it from how it could work.

If some might want to know why I was in GDT. The answer is that I previously was in a different group that was merged with GDT, without me personally consenting to it and being left with no other choice. At that time it also appeared that GDT was in a new beginning. Some might recall that I had posted a critical comment about the governance of GDT on the Lisk forum in May, pointing out that the list of members is created by a single individual, Vega.

The short outline above is a summary of my experience with GDT. In addition, I would like to be explicit on why I see GDT as a scam and a threat:

• GDT is centralizing delegates, as basically a single individual is doing the list of delegates. GDT has no statute or real democratic organization.
• GDT is a cartel. They are not just a group of some mutual voters. They deliberately seek to maintain a number of 80+ members in order to seize all forging rewards and prevent competitors.
• GDT is a buddy scheme. Everything goes if it is to the liking of the leadership.
• GDT is undermining the consensus mechanism and is practicing collusion. With most recent conduct there is direct enforcement of the voting of its delegate members.
• GDT has no benefit for Lisk. GDT is not operating in a way that it seeks to return a surplus for Lisk from forged LSK. In particular it is not attempting to acquire valuable developers for Lisk projects as it was envisaged for the forging rewards.
• GDT is not preventing whales, or the “rich from getting richer”. Recently they rushed in many high stake holdings, even some of those they had previously labeled as their adversaries. The members of GDT themselves are striving to amass a holding from forging awards that would make each a whale.
• GDT is not a better alternative to pools (as they promote themselves). In fact, GDT is associated with pools, used them for pushing some of their members, and members even proposed to launch GDT pools.
• GDT is not essential for the operation of the testnet and the mainnet. While in fact a lot of work was contributed to this, most work on scripts, applications, snapshot servers, real feedback on testing etc. is done by only a relatively small number of participants.

https://carolinaliskdelegate.wordpress.com/

Chapeau! @Delegate Carolina

[MrPresident]

Carolina posts the election result where he got kicked and then proceeds to say it's not democratic while calling his wrong-doings "alleged" whilst still carrying out the same offense; was trusted by 79 individuals who's trust he/she blatantly, purposely betrayed; then expected not to get voted out?

What possible result did Carolina think would come of that?  Doooooh.

...the rest of the post being total BS, half-truths mixed with blatant lies and tainted opinion by somebody who obviously is a couple beers shy of a six-pack; not worth my time.

[BitBanksy]

This is a perfect opportunity to me to mention that yesterday I released a new version of my voting tool. (Windows only)

This is a complete rewrite, different UI, I think this makes handling multiple voting accounts much easier.
For feature list, changes and notes please visit the lisk forum thread.
You can get the tool from github.

Give it a try, if you vote from multiple account and/or vote frequently it can make life easier. If you have any feedback please post it in the thread on lisk forum.

The tool can even be used to find and vote pools more easily , see:

Vega great tool! Are you planning to release a web version?

[corsaro]

Bitbanksy's Lisk Banner Contest just got a couple more donations from delegate Corsaro and myself btw, tripling the bounty.
When he wakes up, the new prize numbers will be officially posted, but it should be somewhere around these numbers now...
calculated at 15 cent per lisk...
1st prize: a total of 1500 LSK  ($225)
2nd prize: a total of 900 LSK   ($135)
3rd prize: a total of 600 LSK    ($90)

great @MrPresident.

Now the contest is more interesting ;-)