[IOTA] IOTA Speculation

[BigIotaBig]

I am very skeptical about the protocol of iota. CIYAM says that IOTA is not written very clean.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398969.msg14219113#msg14219113

I think there are a high risk that IOTA does not work. Maybe Microsoft has not even looked at the code.

Here are software developers who can say more about the java code of iota?

Thank you

CIYAM says hardcoding a port <1024 is bad security wise. He is not a Java dev as far as I know. Cfb says it's necessary because it makes testing a lot easier, and it's only for the reference implementation. In the final, non reference client there won't be a hardcoded port.

Thats all there is to the discussion. It has nothing to do with code not written very clean.

Please please do not delegate your ability to gain knowledge to an authority (neither ciaym nor cfb/iotatoken), use your own brain instead.

I use my own brain and I know that CIYAM is very unpleasant. I'm an early adopter of Bitcoin and I know this kind of posts of CIYAM already very long. But I don't think he is stupid.

The technologie and Protocol of IOTA is very complex. I can't say if this technologie is implementable but I hope it. What worries me is why it is so easy to write the complex code and so diffcult to write the easiest part- the GUI. I hope this official statement is true.

Please do not get me wrong! I want that this project will be a success. Maybe last it have been better if the iota-Foundation had accepted Bitcoin instead of IOTA. If the project fails at the beginning, the Foundation has no money to repair the software.

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[iotatoken]

The technologie and Protocol of IOTA is very complex. I can't say if this technologie is implementable but I hope it. What worries me is why it is so easy to write the complex code and so diffcult to write the easiest part- the GUI. I hope this official statement is true.

Man, are you serious? You are either trolling or misinformed. There is absolutely no problem with developing the GUI, none what so ever. Like you said: it's easy. But GUI is about the G. We had a GUI ready in December actually, a very rough one that CfB put together in an afternoon or two, but the community (after seeing screenshots) expressed wishes for a beautiful GUI(CfB is a hardcore backend dev, not frontend graphic designer), we agreed with this as first impression is important. So then we hired a well renowned design/UI firm called www.creativeda.sh who started work (albeit a bit slow), then suddenly they inform us that they lost their developer (he quit). So now we had wasted a month and had to start all over again, that's life, so we did, then we hired www.danwarfel.com who also has a very solid portfolio. What happens? He disappears for 3 weeks straight.  So of course, had to fire him, find new dev, which is very soon to be done with the UI now.

So as you can see, it has nothing to do with being hard, it was just a series of extremely unfortunate events out of our control. This is usually called Murphy's law.

[rdanneskjoldr]

Please do not get me wrong! I want that this project will be a success. Maybe last it have been better if the iota-Foundation had accepted Bitcoin instead of IOTA. If the project fails at the beginning, the Foundation has no money to repair the software.

I also suggested accepting bitcoin. I think having both options would optimize the will to colaborate in the community. Some people may have a small stake( to their regret) from which they cant donate much, and would rather do it with btc.
And as David says, "for the real world", btc or $$ is what you will need for common expenses.

http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174/2?u=johngalt


About the GUI, they ve been transparent all along. Just unlucky or bad choice with who the work was put on, but we were all aware while it happened.

[iotatoken]

Please do not get me wrong! I want that this project will be a success. Maybe last it have been better if the iota-Foundation had accepted Bitcoin instead of IOTA. If the project fails at the beginning, the Foundation has no money to repair the software.

I also suggested accepting bitcoin. I think having both options would optimize the will to colaborate in the community. Some people may have a small stake( to their regret) from which they cant donate much, and would rather do it with btc.
And as David says, "for the real world", btc or $$ is what you will need for common expenses.

http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174/2?u=johngalt


About the GUI, they ve been transparent all along. Just unlucky or bad choice with who the work was put on, but we were all aware while it happened.

Problem with accepting only BTC is that it lasts quite shortly, I.E. it does not increase in value with the result of the foundation. With iota it is a direct relationship.

As for GUI choices: I'd like to see anyone look at www.creativeda.sh who is on the top of most popular posts on www.dribbble.com and www.behance.net, who has clients like Adobe and Nike, and conclude "these will probably waste a month of our time and then announce they lost their developer". If anyone here could see such a thing coming: I want to hire you permanently as my oracle.

[rdanneskjoldr]

Problem with accepting only BTC is that it lasts quite shortly, I.E. it does not increase in value with the result of the foundation. With iota it is a direct relationship.

I see, sounds fair. Although i never meant only btc, but both of them.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I use my own brain...

CIYAM's claims on the code (even if they were true) are irrelevant because it's not production code. Because of this the discussion can't even begin, it simply doesn't make sense.

[achimsmile]

I know that Cfb is very unpleasant.

Cfb is a gentleman. He never swears and his posts are smart, why is he unpleasent?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Maybe he urgently needs money.

For testing purposes I need some transactions to be done this week. If the seller PMs me with his seed and address where to send the iotas to, I could do the escrow. By knowing the seed I'll be able to repeat the transaction right before the release if the rollback happens.

I'll let you know if the deal happens. My offer is actual for the next 24 hours.

No news from that guy, maybe something happened? The time is ticking...

[BigIotaBig]

I know that Cfb is very unpleasant.

Cfb is a gentleman. He never swears and his posts are smart, why is he unpleasent?

Cfb CIYAM

My mistake. spelling mistake. I'm sorry. Cfb - I think you make a great job, really!

[John_Paul]

I know that Cfb is very unpleasant.

Cfb is a gentleman. He never swears and his posts are smart, why is he unpleasent?

Cfb CIYAM
My mistake. spelling mistake. I'm sorry. Cfb - I think you make a great job, really!

Because you only saw one side of him. He can be a totally different person than you thought.

Anyway, talking abut his judgment, he said to me that investing in Ethereum's pre-sale was wasting money during the Ether pre-sale. That showed what was his ability to evaluate crypto projects.

[50cent_rapper]

I am very skeptical about the protocol of iota. CIYAM says that IOTA is not written very clean.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398969.msg14219113#msg14219113

I think there are a high risk that IOTA does not work. Maybe Microsoft has not even looked at the code.

Here are software developers who can say more about the java code of iota?

Thank you

CIYAM is not an idiot, he is a troll.
He knows that when developing software, you design algorithm, and then you code it in programming language.
Cfb spend a year thinking about algorithm.

When you have an algorithm, you can code it in C++, C, Java, C#, whatever you like relatively fast.

CIYAM also knows that to take port number  from configuration file it takes 15 minutes of programming, you literally load file in memory, parse it and set a value of a port in a variable. 15 minutes to code.

And knowing all of that he wrote this crap about "crap software". So he is not an idiot, he is a cheap troll.
When I point that his claim that early versions of Facebook were written better then iota means that he has facebook source code - what do you think he said to me? He said to me that my English is broken. When I was 15 and I have nothing to say I do exectly the same.

He called himself "qualified software engineer". I say he is a qualified troll that have a degree in CS and wrote some code.

[child_harold]

update2

To those that bought from me:

Tomorrow (Saturday) 21:00 UTC will be the deadline to apply for the fast-track payout (complements of CfB). Those that dont apply will get their coins after GUI wallet release as originally planned. Thanks.

[wesgen]

update2

To those that bought from me:

Tomorrow (Saturday) 21:00 UTC will be the deadline to apply for the fast-track payout (complements of CfB). Those that dont apply will get their coins after GUI wallet release as originally planned. Thanks.

many thanks to you and CfB for facilitating this! I was interested in buying about 0.5 btc worth of IOTA if anyone that's legit has, let me know.

As I said in my previous pledge, if I do get, then I will also pledge some IOTA out of that towards foundation and the 'big deal'. I understand the dynamics David has to deal with in the real world with not being able to reveal full details of the big deal buyer etc and I'm cool with that. If I had millions of IOTA I would have contributed more towards that deal as well. Of course at the same time it would be good for us and more so those with their valid uncertainties to get an idea of how big the player is, whether they are in X industry or well known for Y (broad generalisation of course so as not to be specific).

[yassin54]

Update6!!

This seller @tobeaj2mer01 sold 662k IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 15.5 btc, 171k IOTA for @CryptKeeper for 4 btc, 346k IOTA for @bitfromit for 8 Btc, 20k IOTA for @Tilfo for 0.5btc

This seller @duluth  sold 80k IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 2BTC

This seller @anewafresh sold 500k IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 14BTC

This seller @titan20 sold 400k IOTA for @BigIOTABig for 12BTC

This seller @thetreebro sold 170k IOTA for @hoertest for 5BTC


Please buyer send me your adress IOTA via PM!!

LinK creat address IOTA : Steps 1 - 3 on http://collect.iotatoken.com (make sure you see exactly this address in the browser)

Address receive and validate : "BigIOTABig" "Tilfo" "hoertest" "bitfromit"

[randombit]

@iotatoken,

if the big buyers would like to contribute on iotas success, how would that be a influence your Jinn Projekt? Would Jinn take part in a partnership, what is your current vision to Jinn?.  Thanks for your response. 

[yassin54]

Good Night!! 

[yassin54]

At the same time I would like to commit 100 000 iota towards the big deals .

Done!!

Re Good Night!! 

[thetreebro]

have up to 500,000 iota more to sell at the rate of 3000 sats with escrow.

[zzzman20]

Ok I eat my shoe. I would like to buy up to 5 BTC of IOTA, preferably at 40k per BTC but will consider other offers. PM'd thetreebro

[youyou_]

Thank you to BigIotaBig for your trust .

Code:

25 BTC sent from BigIotaBig in exchange for 1 000 000 iota to be paid within 24 hour of release.

Code:

1Dnmow3aW5kyENrKmraEfZXogFvRgdA4xY
Signature:H8qQdA7XdjmFWK7Iduz0fG47E8wDRAMV6KfQsKG28TCoM5UdcmWPtLtY8oVMGxQte02crRlrnyxWsq+2VvKGqwY=

Code:

TXID: c6f34b1ed7e1e30540583a83e896af4a4831d1aad21a82b43e705b3cb7e253c4

At the same time I would like to commit 100 000 iota towards the big deals .

edit: Corrected typo

25BTC, no escrow with a newbie account? this guy is fucking crazy.