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April 21, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
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Any link available for download whole blockchain at once?
https://verge-blockchain.com/howto

Find by looking on https://vergecurrency.com/  all by yourself.  (you should never trust links) Mine are posted direct, but someone else might not.  (and hell if i was a creep(Some scumbag) wouldnt  i say the same thing?)



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My most unsuccessful investment of this month. But nevertheless announced partnerships are one of the most powerful marketing moves of the century Grin Mass adoption and price boom are coming Cool
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Mindgeek is a wonderful announcement meant for real investors/speculators. Just a bad it could not be launched properly...
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I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.

Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:

- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.

- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.

- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.

- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.

- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....

- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!

- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.

- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.

- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.

- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.

- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.

- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.

- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.

- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.

This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.

Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion
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April 21, 2018, 08:22:24 PM
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I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.

Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:

- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.

- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.

- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.

- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.

- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....

- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!

- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.

- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.

- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.

- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.

- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.

- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.

- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.

- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.

This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.

Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion


I for myself tend to see it as a good deal.

They surely made sort of a serious analysis before choosing XVG. Why didnt they choose an other privacy coin (like zcash, BitcoinZ, etc. etc..)?

As everything in crypto is uncertain to some degree, I think this deal is on the less uncertain side of the spectrum.
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April 21, 2018, 08:40:50 PM
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Porn is bad for children's mental health, it creates biased -  not to say false understandings and misleading stereotypes in society.

I find it funny, that Verge basically expect's that their investors are wankers.. One way of looking at it anyway

You certainly were never involved with the porn industry. I was an Investor in this field 20 years ago. I was surprised to see the amount of disciplined, intelligent, hardworking people in this industry. Persons not like this are out in one day...

There are interesting similarities between porn and crypto: for example the appetite for "easy and fast" money... and many more.
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April 21, 2018, 09:40:56 PM
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My most unsuccessful investment of this month. But nevertheless announced partnerships are one of the most powerful marketing moves of the century Grin Mass adoption and price boom are coming Cool

Your most unsuccessful investment of this month? Would you mind sharing what your best performers from your portfolio were if XVG was the worst?

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April 22, 2018, 05:55:10 AM
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Why can't I display the balance in my wallet after I import the private key?
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April 22, 2018, 05:57:26 AM
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Learning about Verge more than a year ago It is nice to see It is slowly entering the top coins
This one will probably be in the Top 10 by the end of this year, I think It is quiet possible.
I think once the market truly recover Verge will have a lot of hype with John Mcafee statements
and other things like people getting in privacy.
I would say this one is a 'safe investment'  Cool
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April 22, 2018, 09:37:30 AM
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I think and hope that this mindgeek deal or cooperation with verge is the first step. There is also a cooperation deal with tokenpay ( look at tokenpay website, they seem very enthusiastic ).
if the team gets more deals it will make verge a unique coin in the crypto space and a next step in the evolution of blockchain and its future.

Obviously there are many issues which have to be sorted out to get crypto currencies mainstream. The biggest is the ease of use...which already is being adressed by the partnership/ cooperation of tokenpay/ verge.

Overall these steps are huge, unfortunately for us as investors we can not count on a huge appreciation of the worth of our coins yet. Maybe in some time, but for now i'm very surprised that it had no long term effect on the price. I expected the price to go a bit higher and drop  and rise again. It did but less than i expected.

hopefully the dev team is working on their next step and that they dont start announcing them a month before. Just announce it a week before without making a hype about it. The big expectations have the result of dissapointment. If there was no hype nobody would be discussing if mindgeek deal is a big deal or not. It is a very very big deal, unless you expected that amazon or ebay would implement xvg. Those companies will be the last to do so. They know if they even endorse a coin that coin will go to the moon, so tell me why would they do that, in the situation crypto is in now??!! They have the best coders etc they could make a coin for themselves and make a few billion by doing so
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April 22, 2018, 12:34:53 PM
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many people predict altcoin prices will rise if bitcoin prices rise, but apparently this does not apply to the price verge, verge prices are getting down when bitcoin prices rise
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April 22, 2018, 01:04:39 PM
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This is getting closer.  Could Coinbase add XVG?

https://www.change.org/p/coinbase-get-verge-on-coinbase

Just curious...

Have a good day peeps!!!

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April 22, 2018, 01:20:57 PM
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For me, verge to become more and more powerful as a coin, should have more applications and users. These new industry that verge are applied would clearly make it more usable.

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April 22, 2018, 03:02:18 PM
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I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.

Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:

- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.

- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.

- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.

- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.

- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....

- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!

- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.

- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.

- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.

- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.

- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.

- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.

- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.

- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.

This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.

Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion

Really very logical reasoning with which I overall agree. I also see it as a process and time will show if the impact of this partnership will be meaningful and properly channeled in the end.I'm optimistic in general as this at least movement forward, hopefully in marketing department as this is where XVG suffers the most.
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April 22, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
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This is getting closer.  Could Coinbase add XVG?

https://www.change.org/p/coinbase-get-verge-on-coinbase

Just curious...

Have a good day peeps!!!



That would be awesome, but it does not look likely.More likely is USDT pairing on Binance and that would be really good news also.
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Hmm I think that this needs a lot more discussion than we think Sad
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This is getting closer.  Could Coinbase add XVG?

https://www.change.org/p/coinbase-get-verge-on-coinbase

Just curious...

Have a good day peeps!!!



That would be awesome, but it does not look likely.More likely is USDT pairing on Binance and that would be really good news also.

IF XVG becomes part of Coinbase which has a lot of gov focus, privacy is pretty much out of the door (for the most part). I do like the Binance move though.

As for this "petition", it's more like a poll and a very small one at that; not sure if that's enough to move Coinbase towards XVG adoption.
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I seems verge coin value should increase within next couple of month.so i suggest everyone to buy this coin.
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I seems verge coin value should increase within next couple of month.so i suggest everyone to buy this coin.

Yeah I agree, the news was good but it will take a while to settle in. It will surely add value in the future.
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April 22, 2018, 10:06:05 PM
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I see a sudden a network difficulty spike from 2M to 5.8M on Verge/Myriad-Groestl , anyone else or just some glitch on my miner program?

Update: 6,123,750.18413109 and its raising, this is not normal in my opinion!!!!!
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