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Looks like the floor is 37k, I'm fairly sure there aren't any idiotic panicky people left to sell at ICO price and I'll expect to see a rise over 40k over the next few days/week. Never underestimate the power of fear greed and stupidity. they will suprise you :] I don't think people will be selling below ico price I think that all those who wanted to sell below the price ico, did it. |
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Looks like the floor is 37k, I'm fairly sure there aren't any idiotic panicky people left to sell at ICO price and I'll expect to see a rise over 40k over the next few days/week. Never underestimate the power of fear greed and stupidity. they will suprise you :] I don't think people will be selling below ico price I think that all those who wanted to sell below the price ico, did it. Exactly, there are no sellers left but nobody wants to buy because of BTC and a few others reasons, 24 volume at 50 BTC, does anyone really believe the price will go down under ICO price (In BTC) again? Full-nodes were just released, traders must have half a brain if they sell at these levels now IMO, unless they got in at 20k, then good for them! |
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November 21, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
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Looks like the floor is 37k, I'm fairly sure there aren't any idiotic panicky people left to sell at ICO price and I'll expect to see a rise over 40k over the next few days/week. Never underestimate the power of fear greed and stupidity. they will suprise you :] I don't think people will be selling below ico price it wouldn't be the first time if they did  people tend to be irrational but its good... i think WAVES had the best and the worst timing in crypto. it came out in great time after ethereum fomopump and after Lisk failed to deliver. it was hi time for cryptos. the downside was it by mistake attracted sooo many unpredictable people mostly newbies driven by horrendous greed while lacking any knowledge so they first overbought the ICO (lets be real 30k BTC was INSANE valuation) and after were selling at prices so low it was (again) INSANE to sell. and here we are i hope they are all gone by now |
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November 21, 2016, 08:25:12 PM |
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Somehow Waves doesn't even have a real trading market at the moment. Even observing the market 1h per week one sees the same bot trading those 1.3k and 2.3k Waves back and forth for like over a week now.
If it goes too low, it buys up, if it goes too high it dumps it. Right now at around 36-38K.
This is why an other big exchange is important. I'm not even about Polo and my oh so precious monthly trading volumes to be the cool guy with a pink name in the trollbox.
Be it Polo, Kraken or any other exchange that has the power to lift off at least 30% of the volume from Bittrex and bring other people in, will be very healthy for a market. Right now it just isn't.
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November 21, 2016, 08:52:20 PM |
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do it properly dont just add poloniex twitter. add kraken and others too. why so selective? i dont get this whole polo fixation. let's look at top 10 ETHereum exchanges by volume and tweet to all of them at once |
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November 21, 2016, 09:16:55 PM |
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In a free and open society you should be able to state your political views(be it Clinton or Trump) without repercussions. best analysis ever  rides on waves  $2 to $4 in a year is definitely realistic and attainable. $12-$14 would be even better  Yeah, this guy is spot on. Although to be fair, I don't think Sasha is (directly) responsible for "tongue -in-cheek" comments about Trump/Clinton/border wall, but rather WWCR crew. Great article, must read! Repercussions? If your idea of repercussions is simply someone else saying why they might disagree, then it's not a "free and open society" you clamor for.  |
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November 21, 2016, 09:27:02 PM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
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November 21, 2016, 09:27:47 PM |
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In a free and open society you should be able to state your political views(be it Clinton or Trump) without repercussions. best analysis ever rides on waves $2 to $4 in a year is definitely realistic and attainable. $12-$14 would be even better Yeah, this guy is spot on. Although to be fair, I don't think Sasha is (directly) responsible for "tongue -in-cheek" comments about Trump/Clinton/border wall, but rather WWCR crew. Great article, must read! Repercussions? If your idea of repercussions is simply someone else saying why they might disagree, then it's not a "free and open society" you clamor for. People celebrating random pumps ala POT is not a free society either. Meanwhile at Waves HQ someone brushing off his tears offended by trolls:  |
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November 21, 2016, 09:31:37 PM |
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Haha, crypto funniest home video's. We need a show for that! |
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November 21, 2016, 09:50:19 PM |
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Haha, crypto funniest home video's. We need a show for that! As a "currency" that issues tokens within a blockchain community those videos are actually awesome. I really like where they are going, my investments totally aside. I would love to see the same coming from other top 10 market cap currencies as well. Wouldn't it be exciting to see developers from say Ethereum Classic, Litecoin, Monero, NEM, Maid and alike to show in their home videos? |
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November 21, 2016, 09:57:57 PM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
These people have a big difficulty to see the world beyond poloniex. i've seem the same BS in iconomi thread, crying about only 1 small volume exchange(yeah, kraken is a small volume exchange lol). Every coin not listed in poloniex dreams about this like it would change everything.. |
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November 21, 2016, 10:11:15 PM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
You really make an excellent point in this post. The world is a lot bigger place than just Poloniex. I wonder if someone on the Waves team is/could work their way through each of these exchanges systematically, contacting them proactively about adding Waves. It seems like that might be a wise thing to do at some point. |
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November 21, 2016, 10:28:04 PM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
These people have a big difficulty to see the world beyond poloniex. i've seem the same BS in iconomi thread, crying about only 1 small volume exchange(yeah, kraken is a small volume exchange lol). Every coin not listed in poloniex dreams about this like it would change everything.. Somehow the forum seems broken to link posts, but it's on the last page. No ego, just to quote myself: Somehow Waves doesn't even have a real trading market at the moment. Even observing the market 1h per week one sees the same bot trading those 1.3k and 2.3k Waves back and forth for like over a week now.
If it goes too low, it buys up, if it goes too high it dumps it. Right now at around 36-38K.
This is why an other big exchange is important. I'm not even about Polo and my oh so precious monthly trading volumes to be the cool guy with a pink name in the trollbox.
Be it Polo, Kraken or any other exchange that has the power to lift off at least 30% of the volume from Bittrex and bring other people in, will be very healthy for a market. Right now it just isn't.
It's not about Polo. It's about any exchange big enough that can remove volume from Bittrex. Don't understand me wrong. I'm actually into Waves since summer. I love this project in many ways and will support it in the future. I'm not a daytrader, I have a fulltime job and hobbies. But trading Waves past 2 weeks has been awful, because at the moment of writing this; Bittrex controls 80% of the total trading volume. I mention this not because of trading. More so, because admittedly even with 10-20 btc I got corrected in either direction. I paid a "for the science fee" to both buy and sell Waves beyond the limit the bot was comfortable with. Either way, this should not be the case. Someone being aggressive about more than that, say 50-200 btc, shouldn't affect this project. It feels wrong. This is why I want any exchange to list it. Polo, Kraken, whatever. Just diversify it for both development and healthy price. |
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November 21, 2016, 10:42:57 PM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
You really make an excellent point in this post. The world is a lot bigger place than just Poloniex. I wonder if someone on the Waves team is/could work their way through each of these exchanges systematically, contacting them proactively about adding Waves. It seems like that might be a wise thing to do at some point. recent add to HitBit is let's say inadequte HitBit is No. 50 with 10-15% of BITTREX volume. so... doesn't matter. i would like to see WAVES on EXMO. i think EXMO is russian based exchange with volumes similar to BITTREX that would be great add IMHO. Russians are proud people and especially fond of russian based projects. EXMO would give us great start for sure. |
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November 21, 2016, 10:53:53 PM |
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In a free and open society you should be able to state your political views(be it Clinton or Trump) without repercussions. best analysis ever rides on waves $2 to $4 in a year is definitely realistic and attainable. $12-$14 would be even better Yeah, this guy is spot on. Although to be fair, I don't think Sasha is (directly) responsible for "tongue -in-cheek" comments about Trump/Clinton/border wall, but rather WWCR crew. Great article, must read! Repercussions? If your idea of repercussions is simply someone else saying why they might disagree, then it's not a "free and open society" you clamor for. People celebrating random pumps ala POT is not a free society either. Meanwhile at Waves HQ someone brushing off his tears offended by trolls: He's flipping you the finger! |
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November 22, 2016, 12:42:26 AM |
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To all of you that are fixated on POLONIEX adding Waves...
Check on coinmarketcap.com which exchanges have biggest volumes. Poloniex is No. 4 behind Bitfinex, BitMEX and xBTCe. No. 5 is Kraken with almost th same volume as Poloniex. Next 5 have volumes spanning 2,6mln - 4mln $ so pretty decent too
Do you know which place is taken by BITTREX? No. 24 !!! so there is 23 exchanges with better volume than BTRX which means that addition to every of those 23 exchanges will result in significant increase in total Waves volume and there is another 10 small exchanges with volume similar to bittrex for gods sake... each addition matters guys. Lets say Exmo adds waves (similar 24hr volume) it can result in 10-20% or more increase in total volume. IT CAN ONLY BE BETTER. there is like 30-40 exchanges that will make difference from where we're at now.
These people have a big difficulty to see the world beyond poloniex. i've seem the same BS in iconomi thread, crying about only 1 small volume exchange(yeah, kraken is a small volume exchange lol). Every coin not listed in poloniex dreams about this like it would change everything.. Somehow the forum seems broken to link posts, but it's on the last page. No ego, just to quote myself: Somehow Waves doesn't even have a real trading market at the moment. Even observing the market 1h per week one sees the same bot trading those 1.3k and 2.3k Waves back and forth for like over a week now.
If it goes too low, it buys up, if it goes too high it dumps it. Right now at around 36-38K.
This is why an other big exchange is important. I'm not even about Polo and my oh so precious monthly trading volumes to be the cool guy with a pink name in the trollbox.
Be it Polo, Kraken or any other exchange that has the power to lift off at least 30% of the volume from Bittrex and bring other people in, will be very healthy for a market. Right now it just isn't.
It's not about Polo. It's about any exchange big enough that can remove volume from Bittrex. Don't understand me wrong. I'm actually into Waves since summer. I love this project in many ways and will support it in the future. I'm not a daytrader, I have a fulltime job and hobbies. But trading Waves past 2 weeks has been awful, because at the moment of writing this; Bittrex controls 80% of the total trading volume. I mention this not because of trading. More so, because admittedly even with 10-20 btc I got corrected in either direction. I paid a "for the science fee" to both buy and sell Waves beyond the limit the bot was comfortable with. Either way, this should not be the case. Someone being aggressive about more than that, say 50-200 btc, shouldn't affect this project. It feels wrong. This is why I want any exchange to list it. Polo, Kraken, whatever. Just diversify it for both development and healthy price. This is 100% accurate, with Bittrex being the highest exchange volume alone means anyone with 20 BTC can influence the price, pretty ridiculous for an ICO with so much money raised. |
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so people are saying the waves price will slowly start to climb again to 40k..then 45k..then 50k...and then what? Another feature out and dump again to ico levels? Buy the rumor, sell the news? What's the point?
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In a free and open society you should be able to state your political views(be it Clinton or Trump) without repercussions. best analysis ever rides on waves $2 to $4 in a year is definitely realistic and attainable. $12-$14 would be even better Yeah, this guy is spot on. Although to be fair, I don't think Sasha is (directly) responsible for "tongue -in-cheek" comments about Trump/Clinton/border wall, but rather WWCR crew. Great article, must read! Repercussions? If your idea of repercussions is simply someone else saying why they might disagree, then it's not a "free and open society" you clamor for. People celebrating random pumps ala POT is not a free society either. Meanwhile at Waves HQ someone brushing off his tears offended by trolls: lol, come on guys this is serious business. There is a $20 milion+ capital behind this company. You cant do stuff like this. There needs to be a certain level of professionalism kept! One cant behave like they are a dorm room startup.  |
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