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[Luzin]

Four Three ducati riders are in the top four, this is a good record. Besides that yesterday was a very exciting race due to rain, the change of motorbikes was full of drama and penalties. I actually supported yamaha at Le Mans but the rain changed all.
In some racing periods I have seen Ducati win on wet tracks. They seem very used to the rain. This result make Miller as a winner broke several records, one of them even though he got two long lap penalties he was able to win.

[Koal-84]

Four Three ducati riders are in the top four, this is a good record. Besides that yesterday was a very exciting race due to rain, the change of motorbikes was full of drama and penalties. I actually supported yamaha at Le Mans but the rain changed all.
In some racing periods I have seen Ducati win on wet tracks. They seem very used to the rain. This result make Miller as a winner broke several records, one of them even though he got two long lap penalties he was able to win.

Ducati is really very strong this year, so it wasn't to be expected for me. You can always count on Yamaha, but normally they get weaker than stronger over the year. I'm excited to see Yamaha's performance on the next tracks, the next tracks are more an advantage for Ducati due to the engine power and top speed.

[coinlocket$]

A reminder for you all.

Gp of Monaco is special and in case you forgot it the free practice 1 and free practice 2 are back on Thursday as the tradition.
This is the only Gran Prix in the schedule where they did not race on Friday.

So

Thursday FP1 FP2
Friday Shopping Day
Saturday FP3 Qualify
Sunday Race

Prediction theater Sun.

[AakZaki]

Ducati is really very strong this year, so it wasn't to be expected for me. You can always count on Yamaha, but normally they get weaker than stronger over the year. I'm excited to see Yamaha's performance on the next tracks, the next tracks are more an advantage for Ducati due to the engine power and top speed.

Source: https://mugellocircuit.com/en/

The next series will take place in Italy. Although there are still 2 weeks to go, this will take place at the Mugello Circuit (Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello) with a length of 3,259 miles and a straight line of up to 1.1 miles. It seems very friendly for Ducati, KTM and Honda. But I think Yamaha is also the champion's favorite, especially since this is the home of VR 46. Moreover, he is the racer who has won the most pole positions here. Can VR get on the podium in this series?

[perfect999]

A reminder for you all.

Gp of Monaco is special and in case you forgot it the free practice 1 and free practice 2 are back on Thursday as the tradition.
This is the only Gran Prix in the schedule where they did not race on Friday.

So

Thursday FP1 FP2
Friday Shopping Day
Saturday FP3 Qualify
Sunday Race

Prediction theater Sun.

What is shopping day? I never heard of that before, I am not the greatest F1 in the world I have to say that, maybe this has been a thing for decades who knows, I never really realized it though. So drivers just go...shopping? Or better yet it is just a down time to relax and enjoy monaco basically, maybe they just train and sleep well and eat well to get ready.

However practice on Friday makes much more sense because when you have so many laps in one place on Friday, have qualifiers on Saturday, when it comes to Sunday everyone is quite ready and memorized everything, when you give a break I feel like that disturbs the flow of things, but hey if this is something they always do then I do not know, they decided on such a thing here so who am I to judge them for it, this is the freaking FIA we are talking about I am sure they know better than me lol.

[LTU_btc]

What is shopping day? I never heard of that before, I am not the greatest F1 in the world I have to say that, maybe this has been a thing for decades who knows, I never really realized it though. So drivers just go...shopping? Or better yet it is just a down time to relax and enjoy monaco basically, maybe they just train and sleep well and eat well to get ready.

However practice on Friday makes much more sense because when you have so many laps in one place on Friday, have qualifiers on Saturday, when it comes to Sunday everyone is quite ready and memorized everything, when you give a break I feel like that disturbs the flow of things, but hey if this is something they always do then I do not know, they decided on such a thing here so who am I to judge them for it, this is the freaking FIA we are talking about I am sure they know better than me lol.

I guess term Shopping Day is invented by @coinlocket$ . Shortly, it's old tradition to held practice on Thursday instead of Friday in Monaco because originally there was holiday on Friday. You can read about it here:
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/formula-1-monaco-grand-prix-practice-thursday-friday/
It's rest day for drivers, but I guess for them it's not big difference whether to practice on Thursday or Friday. Also, probably there be some action on Friday from support races.

[coinlocket$]

I guess term Shopping Day is invented by @coinlocket$ . Shortly, it's old tradition to held practice on Thursday instead of Friday in Monaco because originally there was holiday on Friday. You can read about it here:
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/formula-1-monaco-grand-prix-practice-thursday-friday/
It's rest day for drivers, but I guess for them it's not big difference whether to practice on Thursday or Friday. Also, probably there be some action on Friday from support races.

It is not an invention.

I really thought it was shopping day given for the VIP exclusivity of the place.
At least this is what they said on Italian TV years ago but now that you tell me it's not true I think they have always trolled.

[blue Snow]

Moreover, he is the racer who has won the most pole positions here. Can VR get on the podium in this series?

several observers said Rossi period was over. I don't want to take possibility in the next race he could still under the 5th stand list. he lose quickly with the young racers.

Rossi has been difficult to complete in the race. I just hear the news either in the next race after TT Circuit Assen in Holand he want to resign (after break summer).

source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/978319/1/rossi-ill-decide-motogp-future-during-summer-break

I hope he still on the track, because he is the real legend star.

[DIA7]

I there any sportsbook that offers a player not finishing a formula1 race , I'm pretty sure that Mazepin will not be finishing Monaco,  he will find a way to spin and crash at any corner.
Charles Lecterc is a much better driver and didn't finish Monaco in any of his last 4 attempts not to mention that it is his country's race.

[Luzin]

Rossi has been difficult to complete in the race. I just hear the news either in the next race after TT Circuit Assen in Holand he want to resign (after break summer).

source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/978319/1/rossi-ill-decide-motogp-future-during-summer-break

Although the statistics are good in Itali. Looking at his performances this season, only another slightly good Spanish series has been a disappointment to Rossi. Even though we know he uses a motorbike from the manufacturer, not a satellite team motorbike.

Finally, if this news is true, Rossi has realized that his desire is not supported by physicality. Then has there been any news about the replacement? Or is it Lorenzo who is his replacement?

[Koal-84]

Ducati is really very strong this year, so it wasn't to be expected for me. You can always count on Yamaha, but normally they get weaker than stronger over the year. I'm excited to see Yamaha's performance on the next tracks, the next tracks are more an advantage for Ducati due to the engine power and top speed.

Source: https://mugellocircuit.com/en/

The next series will take place in Italy. Although there are still 2 weeks to go, this will take place at the Mugello Circuit (Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello) with a length of 3,259 miles and a straight line of up to 1.1 miles. It seems very friendly for Ducati, KTM and Honda. But I think Yamaha is also the champion's favorite, especially since this is the home of VR 46. Moreover, he is the racer who has won the most pole positions here. Can VR get on the podium in this series?

It's been a bit longer since Yamaha won there, without Marc Honda would probably not have won either, for me the Ducatis are my favorites at Mugello.



https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_von_Italien_(Motorrad)

Moreover, he is the racer who has won the most pole positions here. Can VR get on the podium in this series?

several observers said Rossi period was over. I don't want to take possibility in the next race he could still under the 5th stand list. he lose quickly with the young racers.

Rossi has been difficult to complete in the race. I just hear the news either in the next race after TT Circuit Assen in Holand he want to resign (after break summer).

source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/978319/1/rossi-ill-decide-motogp-future-during-summer-break

I hope he still on the track, because he is the real legend star.

Rossi is always good for a surprise, in the race he is still a racing roll, only he doesn’t feel comfortable on the bike at the moment. He looks at the last race better, I think he would also have a better position without the accident/contact.

[panjul07]

Moreover, he is the racer who has won the most pole positions here. Can VR get on the podium in this series?

several observers said Rossi period was over. I don't want to take possibility in the next race he could still under the 5th stand list. he lose quickly with the young racers.

Rossi has been difficult to complete in the race. I just hear the news either in the next race after TT Circuit Assen in Holand he want to resign (after break summer).

source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/978319/1/rossi-ill-decide-motogp-future-during-summer-break

I hope he still on the track, because he is the real legend star.

No need to be observer, I'm as a motoGP lover can even say that Rossi's period was over since few years back.
He is not as competitive as when he was young, he should not force himself to continue his motoGP career if he feels that he is not competitive anymore.
He should have done it few years ago IMO when Marquez started the domination in MotoGP.

[AakZaki]

~snip~
I hope he still on the track, because he is the real legend star.

Yes Rossi is an extraordinary phenomenon, and he deserves to be called a legend. Dorna  still need him while he is
 bring profit to the MotoGp industry. Reading in some local media, I think Rossi will still be in GP but as a team owner. The news I heard that the Rosi team will officially participate in the 2022 . We already know this news before the race this season. However, until now the VR46 Team itself has not decided what brand of motorbike will be used. Many rumors of yamaha, suzuki and most recently ducati.

[DireWolfM14]

It's nice to see Miller taking two in a row, and one of them was a dry race, lol.  

Four Three ducati riders are in the top four, this is a good record. Besides that yesterday was a very exciting race due to rain, the change of motorbikes was full of drama and penalties. I actually supported yamaha at Le Mans but the rain changed all.
In some racing periods I have seen Ducati win on wet tracks. They seem very used to the rain. This result make Miller as a winner broke several records, one of them even though he got two long lap penalties he was able to win.

I hated the days when Lorenzo or Marques were running away with the championship.  It makes the latter half of the season kinda boring.  This is turning out to be a great start in my opinion.  I would love to see Yamaha and Ducati battle it out until Valencia.

No need to be observer, I'm as a motoGP lover can even say that Rossi's period was over since few years back.
He is not as competitive as when he was young, he should not force himself to continue his motoGP career if he feels that he is not competitive anymore.
He should have done it few years ago IMO when Marquez started the domination in MotoGP.

I hope Rossi hangs in there for the whole season, not that I think he'll be competitive but it's good to see him out there at his age.  The dude is a legend, and has been a dominant force for two decades.  It'll be a sad day when he does retire, the end of an era.

[Koal-84]

~snip~
I hope he still on the track, because he is the real legend star.

Yes Rossi is an extraordinary phenomenon, and he deserves to be called a legend. Dorna  still need him while he is
 bring profit to the MotoGp industry. Reading in some local media, I think Rossi will still be in GP but as a team owner. The news I heard that the Rosi team will officially participate in the 2022 . We already know this news before the race this season. However, until now the VR46 Team itself has not decided what brand of motorbike will be used. Many rumors of yamaha, suzuki and most recently ducati.

That's correct, Rossi is a cash cow for Dorna and they will that he drive or have a own team. I heard also that Rossis Favoriten for the team are Yamaha but what bike have Petronas next year? Yamaha will not build 6 bikes...

[el kaka22]

Lando Norris got another contract from Mclaren, that is a great news for both the team and Lando because I doubt they could find a better match anywhere else with anyone else.

If mclaren started to look for other racers that will just make them adjust the car even more for someone brand new, whereas with Lando they have been together since 2017 and they are gradually getting better and better, a driver that wasn't even remotely there few years ago is now fighting for podium whenever he gets the chance (and sometimes finish top 10 as usual) and that is very important. Whereas Lando can't go to any better place, it is obvious he is not in the shortlist for Mercedes, and only the second spot for Red Bull might be available and I do not think that he would like to be in that position, many lost their power there, maaaybe Ferrari but even they do not have any problems with their racers so far, which means McLaren is still the best for Lando.

[coinlocket$]

first practice already gone. Fun to see Monaco back but after few laps I remember how bad it is.

1   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m12.487s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m12.606s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m12.648s
4   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m12.929s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m12.995s
6   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m13.131s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.236s
8   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.732s
9   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m13.746s
10   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m14.081s
11   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m14.090s
12   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m14.106s
13   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Alpine F1 Team   1m14.205s
14   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m14.268s
15   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m14.281s
16   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m14.320s
17   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m14.616s
18   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m14.801s
19   George Russell   GBR   Williams Racing   1m14.881s
20   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   No time set

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/978415/1/f1-2021-monaco-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1

Perez is the only one who did the time with soft tires.
Leclerc broken his 4th gear at the start of the session and he was unable to complete a timed lap.

[swogerino]

The weather is looking fine in Monaco but I still hope for rain on race day which is this Sunday and that can change a lot of things in Monaco.Under normal race conditions here is really boring because the guy that comes out from turn 1 first usually wins this race.
If the weather doesn't change the best to happen is the safety car and I am sure on such a narrow track a safety car will happen for sure.I hope this will be an interesting race and a lot of action will happen here.

[tokeweed]

^ ^  Ah I thought Perez finally adjusted in his new car and paced well.  But still...  Good to see him pushing it.  Maybe RBR should come up with a better tire strategy in Q2 and the race.

Then again Hamilton and Bottas just at fifth and sixth?  At FP1?  Pretty sure they are sand bagging again.  Lol.   

[Cnut237]

Maybe RBR should come up with a better tire strategy in Q2 and the race.

Tyre strategy in the race is probably irrelevant... overtaking is ludicrously difficult, so tyre choice doesn't matter that much.
I think last time at Monaco, Hamilton won on ridiculous 68 lap old mediums, driving slowly but no-one could overtake.

Actually the race itself is largely irrelevant. Qualifying is everything here.