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Binotto did an Interview Today and he basically closed the door for the possibility to Hamilton next year. (2021)

He said we have our top driver Leclerc and we hope Carlos will grow with us, so there is no spot for Hamilton next year.

When he will renew his contract with Mercedes?

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[marioantonini]

Binotto did an Interview Today and he basically closed the door for the possibility to Hamilton next year. (2021)

He said we have our top driver Leclerc and we hope Carlos will grow with us, so there is no spot for Hamilton next year.

When he will renew his contract with Mercedes?

at this moment Ferrari would not need Hamilton, but someone capable of organizing the team, as did Montezemolo, Jean Todt. Unfortunately Binotto is unable to support this role, because there are too many things to change. they guaranteed to have solved the issue of the engine and therefore from next year it will be an acceptable power, but the problems with the chassis remain, of a car born very badly and never managed to progress.
Leclerc is a very good driver, Sainz too, but they must have a decent car otherwise they get depressed like Vettel did in 2020.


my only doubt about hamilton is the saudi arabian grand prix on the calendar. he is very sensitive to social issues and running in a country where human rights are trampled on is not like him

[dre1982]

Verstappen was this year third with 5 times a DNF and Bottas was second with just 1 DNF. If Verstappen didnt had that much bad luck this season he could have been easily second.

Good point. Considering that Verstappen had so many DNF and Bottas overcome him just by few points shows that Bottas had really poor season.

And like some previous seasons this time it wasn't that much Verstappen's fault. He just had some back luck with his car and he wasn't sometimes on the wrong place at the wrong time.

[swogerino]

Verstappen was this year third with 5 times a DNF and Bottas was second with just 1 DNF. If Verstappen didnt had that much bad luck this season he could have been easily second.

Good point. Considering that Verstappen had so many DNF and Bottas overcome him just by few points shows that Bottas had really poor season.

And like some previous seasons this time it wasn't that much Verstappen's fault. He just had some back luck with his car and he wasn't sometimes on the wrong place at the wrong time.

He has been unlucky this year especially in one of the Bahrain races where Sergio Perez won,Verstappen was exactly in the wrong place at the wrong time.Although his young age he has matured a lot as a driver but I am afraid Red Bull will not be able for the upcoming year to offer him a winning car.

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Just small info.
With the salary cap for team, they have also reduced the tests for 2021.

The next year we will have only 3 days of tests, down from 6 of 2020 and down from 8 of 2019.

The tests will be in Spain at Barcelona as always between the 2nd and 4th of March, or 73 days.

[ILuckyGuyI]

According to rumours, Hamilton will sign a 3-year contract. If I am not wrong, he said some time ago that he wants to race for three more years. Bottas signed a 1-year contract and I think that he will leave the team after that. When Bottas leaves, I think Russell will fill his place. 

[marioantonini]

Just small info.
With the salary cap for team, they have also reduced the tests for 2021.

The next year we will have only 3 days of tests, down from 6 of 2020 and down from 8 of 2019.

The tests will be in Spain at Barcelona as always between the 2nd and 4th of March, or 73 days.

I think this is completely wrong, because to test the car the only real useful thing is the track.
Doing just 3 days of testing is bad for teams. what would change if after having raced on a circuit, the teams stayed there for another 3 days to test, they would only have the cost of food and accommodation for the staff, since the materials are already there. increasing the tests would give the possibility to recover to those behind, working only in the wind tunnel is not productive

[dre1982]

According to rumours, Hamilton will sign a 3-year contract. If I am not wrong, he said some time ago that he wants to race for three more years. Bottas signed a 1-year contract and I think that he will leave the team after that. When Bottas leaves, I think Russell will fill his place. 

Russell showed he deserves a place at Mercedes. Russell got much more talent then Bottas. He would probably go to another team. At the end he is still a good driver.

[ILuckyGuyI]

According to rumours, Hamilton will sign a 3-year contract. If I am not wrong, he said some time ago that he wants to race for three more years. Bottas signed a 1-year contract and I think that he will leave the team after that. When Bottas leaves, I think Russell will fill his place.  

Russell showed he deserves a place at Mercedes. Russell got much more talent then Bottas. He would probably go to another team. At the end he is still a good driver.

Russell did really good job when he got the chance in the absence of Hamilton. He is a really competitive racer. He was so close to winning the race but he was so unlucky that he got a puncture and couldn't get the win. But even this race shows how much Russell really can do at Mercedes.

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I think this is completely wrong, because to test the car the only real useful thing is the track.
Doing just 3 days of testing is bad for teams. what would change if after having raced on a circuit, the teams stayed there for another 3 days to test, they would only have the cost of food and accommodation for the staff, since the materials are already there. increasing the tests would give the possibility to recover to those behind, working only in the wind tunnel is not productive

The initial intent of FIA is to save money for teams.
The less they test the less they spend.

But this is completely wrong, Teams instead of spending money on the track are now spending money on better simulators so in the end they will not save money and they create less hype in the fans.

[marioantonini]

less than 3 months before the start of the world championship, it already seems that there is a problem with the first race in Australia.
currently, Australian law requires a 14-day quarantine to enter the country. the race is Sunday 21 March, but the paddock staff must be there at least
Tuesday 16. Considering that there are tests in Barcelona until March 4, they would not have time to leave for Melbourne and do the 14 days of mandatory quarantine

[Koal-84]

Binotto did an Interview Today and he basically closed the door for the possibility to Hamilton next year. (2021)

He said we have our top driver Leclerc and we hope Carlos will grow with us, so there is no spot for Hamilton next year.

When he will renew his contract with Mercedes?

Hamilton don't can help Ferrari at time, and why he should change to a worst car? With this car at the moment no one can win... Only for the big money he will change? And Ferrari have already two good drivers i think.

[CLS63]

Binotto did an Interview Today and he basically closed the door for the possibility to Hamilton next year. (2021)

He said we have our top driver Leclerc and we hope Carlos will grow with us, so there is no spot for Hamilton next year.

When he will renew his contract with Mercedes?

Hamilton don't can help Ferrari at time, and why he should change to a worst car? With this car at the moment no one can win... Only for the big money he will change? And Ferrari have already two good drivers i think.

I don't think that Hamilton will be eager to go to Ferrari. They are too away from their old strength. They should improve themselves really a lot. I think that Hamilton will renew his contract with Mercedes soon. We could see him at Mercedes for 2-3 more years. I don't also think that he will decide to retire before getting his 8th championship.

[aesma]

I guess building supercomputers is less expensive than using a wind tunnel and building more carbon fiber parts. Carbon (CFRP) isn't that expensive though, it's a mature technology, I don't really get it.

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I guess building supercomputers is less expensive than using a wind tunnel and building more carbon fiber parts. Carbon (CFRP) isn't that expensive though, it's a mature technology, I don't really get it.

Not sure about it
Ferrari was building a simulator for fans, a pro version for around 400.000 €.


Souce: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-il-ragno-va-in-pensione-nuovo-simulatore/4547473/#gal-4547473-m0-charles-leclerc-ferrari-45966347

This was the old one Ferrari was using, they built a new one and I have no idea how much it can costs

[LTU_btc]

less than 3 months before the start of the world championship, it already seems that there is a problem with the first race in Australia.
currently, Australian law requires a 14-day quarantine to enter the country. the race is Sunday 21 March, but the paddock staff must be there at least
Tuesday 16. Considering that there are tests in Barcelona until March 4, they would not have time to leave for Melbourne and do the 14 days of mandatory quarantine

I guess exception for F1 will be made. Their case is different from some random people who arrive to the country. F1 team member and staff are tested several times a week during season. Also, they aren't allowed to leave their social bubble - they will spend whole race weekend in the track and hotel only.

[marioantonini]

I guess building supercomputers is less expensive than using a wind tunnel and building more carbon fiber parts. Carbon (CFRP) isn't that expensive though, it's a mature technology, I don't really get it.

the problem is that with the new regulations, to save costs, the hours in the wind tunnel are very limited, making it impossible for those who have to recover to make the machine more efficient.
In total it will be 400 hours in the tunnel, but only 80 hours will be with the wind flow activated. The top 5 ranked teams will have a 2.5% reduction in hours for each position.

[Koal-84]

I guess building supercomputers is less expensive than using a wind tunnel and building more carbon fiber parts. Carbon (CFRP) isn't that expensive though, it's a mature technology, I don't really get it.

the problem is that with the new regulations, to save costs, the hours in the wind tunnel are very limited, making it impossible for those who have to recover to make the machine more efficient.
In total it will be 400 hours in the tunnel, but only 80 hours will be with the wind flow activated. The top 5 ranked teams will have a 2.5% reduction in hours for each position.

In contrast to other small manufacturers, large companies such as Mercedes and Ferrari can hide the costs a little, Ferrari will do everything to get back to the top (no matter what the cost). Even if the biggest problem is the power unit and probably less the chassis.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I am really excited about the next season and I believe that the competition between the teams will be bigger than this season. I think that the number one team will be Mercedes again. But in my opinion, Red Bull will be closer to them with Verstappen and Perez. Vettel made a great move by going to Aston Martin. I think that he will be closer to his old days there. Ferrari look like they will continue having performance problems next season too. But I believe that there will be a huge competition between Leclerc and Sainz. Ricciardo made wonderful things at Renault and I believe that he can do better at McLaren.

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I am really excited about the next season and I believe that the competition between the teams will be bigger than this season. I think that the number one team will be Mercedes again. But in my opinion, Red Bull will be closer to them with Verstappen and Perez. Vettel made a great move by going to Aston Martin. I think that he will be closer to his old days there. Ferrari look like they will continue having performance problems next season too. But I believe that there will be a huge competition between Leclerc and Sainz. Ricciardo made wonderful things at Renault and I believe that he can do better at McLaren.

Next year will be similar but different.
They will keep these cars but they will reduce around 20% in the downforce, some teams like Mercedes already said they have recovered this nerf somewhere else.
Mercedes need to fix the problems with his electrical engine, it sounds ridiculous but they have problems if they push at 100%.
Even if Honda already said they are leaving will come with a BIG upgrade as they said.

Ferrari? Meh they have a new engine finally they can change it but who knows if they are pushing or waiting for the coming revolution...