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[coinlocket$]

It’s Max Verstappen again for FP3.  So far only Verstappen and Gasly has gotten the no. 1 slot for FP3 this season.  And here’s a weird statistic:  None who finished no. 1 at FP3 has taken pole at quali so far this season.  

The advantage of Verstappen is astonishing.
I think I never saw 7/10 as vantage for Redbull over Mercedes.

Good and surprising time for Carlos Sainz.

Expecting

VER-HAM-BOT-PER

LEC-SAINZ-ALO

[RokokGudangGaram]

Verstappen has made the difference, almost a second with Hamilton. If he continues to do that, I think he will easily take pole position. or would it be a strategy of Hamilton and then hit hard in qualifying and the reaction? They would be experienced enough for that. he will probably dominate the race, I hope Perez to finish second.

[tokeweed]

It’s Max Verstappen again for FP3.  So far only Verstappen and Gasly has gotten the no. 1 slot for FP3 this season.  And here’s a weird statistic:  None who finished no. 1 at FP3 has taken pole at quali so far this season.  

The advantage of Verstappen is astonishing.
I think I never saw 7/10 as vantage for Redbull over Mercedes.

Good and surprising time for Carlos Sainz.

Expecting

VER-HAM-BOT-PER

LEC-SAINZ-ALO

Good call on your top 4 for quali.  I wonder how much would that win if you could choose to bet on exactly that...  Maybe around 20.  

Anyway here are the results for quali.

F1 2021 French GP Qualifying Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Red Bull Racing   1m31.001s   1m31.080s   1m29.990s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m31.237s   1m30.788s   1m30.248s
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m31.669s   1m30.735s   1m30.376s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Red Bull Racing   1m31.560s   1m30.971s   1m30.445s
5   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.079s   1m31.146s   1m30.840s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   1m31.898s   1m31.353s   1m30.868s
7   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow   1m32.209s   1m31.567s   1m30.987s
8   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m31.733s   1m31.542s   1m31.252s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.158s   1m31.549s   1m31.340s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m32.181s   1m31.615s   1m31.382s
11   Esteban Ocon   FRA   Alpine F1 Team   1m32.139s   1m31.736s   
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   1m32.132s   1m31.767s   
13   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m32.722s   1m31.813s   
14   George Russell   GBR   Williams Racing   1m33.060s   1m32.065s   
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m32.942s   No Time Set   
16   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m33.062s       
17   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing Orlen   1m33.354s       
18   Nikita Mazepin   RUS   Uralkali Haas F1 Team   1m33.554s       
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team   2m21.584s       
20   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda   No Time Set   

[toast]

That will be a fun race for Red Bull tomorrow. Definitely the favorite to win. It's nice to see that Lewis is so satisfied with 2/10ths behind Verstappen. Perhaps Mercedes now also realizes that their glory is a thing of the past. However, anything can happen in a race. verstappen the most talented driver from this field for sure

[CLS63]

Max Verstappen had a great qualifying and nailed the pole position. Hamilton was the closest driver to put up a good fight for the pole position. Bu even he couldn't do so much against Verstappen. Red Bull is really fast in this season. I can't wait to see the race!

[AakZaki]

Marquez entered the top 5 in the German MotoGP qualifier. Is he going to rise again here. Rossi again looked bad. I'm not surprised Zarco did well today he deserved to start in first place.
Here are the final qualification results:

1 Johann Zarco FRA Pramac Ducati
2 Fabio Quartararo FRA Monster Yamaha
3 Aleix Espargaro ITA Aprilia Gresini
4 Jack Miller AUS Ducati Team
5 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda
6 Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM
7 Jorge Martin SPA Pramac Ducati
8 Pol Espargaro SPA Repsol Honda
9 Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda
10 Francesco Bagnaia ITA Ducati Team
11 Alex Rins SPA Suzuki Ecstar
12 Alex Marquez SPA LCR Honda
13 Brad Binder RSA Red Bull KTM
14 Luca Marini ITA VR46 Avintia Ducati
15 Enea Bastianini ITA Avintia Ducati
16 Valentino Rossi ITA Petronas Yamaha
17 Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar
18 Franco Morbidelli ITA Petronas Yamaha
19 Danilo Petrucci ITA KTM Tech3
20 Iker Lecuona SPA KTM Tech3
21 Maverick Viñales SPA Monster Yamaha
22 Lorenzo Savadori ITA Aprilia Gresini

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics

[Koal-84]

Zarco was also a little lucky pole position, his crash triggered the caution phase and so nobody could hit back. Aboit Rossi, yes he is currently not in the best shape and has little confidence in the motorcycle, but Yamaha should be concerned about Vinales, he is only penultimate, that shouldn't be a factory team's claim.

[swogerino]

It will be a very interesting race tomorrow in F1 with Max Verstappen starting in Pole Position and right behind him there is Hamilton and Bottas in second and third but also 4th his team mate which usually these last races has been a big help to him.It is somewhat more difficult to see a lot of overtakes in this track so it will be good to see who will come out on P1 after the first turn as it will give him a lot of chances to win the race.

[SquallLeonhart]

I really didn't expect anyone to go under 1.30 time, it was really a mega lap by verstappen, dude did something I wasn't expecting. It wasn't really impossible of course, did we see it happen before? I am sure it has happened before, but the qualifiers were all looking like 1.30+ was the time, even at 1.30.110 or something would be very very close to being under but we all know how much important that extra one tenth of a second usually is in racing. If he keeps this up tomorrow, he is going to have no problem but real racing is different, between DRS and ERS and all the overtaking and tire management and everything else in strategy things can get very tricky very quickly.

I still hope Red Bull wins, not that I care about them or love them too much but I just hate seeing same people be champions every year, I hate it when Bayern does it, I hate it when Juventus does it and I hate it when PSG does it, we have seen two of those three broken this year, I hope that Verstappen can take it and make it a third.

[justdimin]

I really didn't expect anyone to go under 1.30 time, it was really a mega lap by verstappen, dude did something I wasn't expecting. It wasn't really impossible of course, did we see it happen before? I am sure it has happened before, but the qualifiers were all looking like 1.30+ was the time, even at 1.30.110 or something would be very very close to being under but we all know how much important that extra one tenth of a second usually is in racing. If he keeps this up tomorrow, he is going to have no problem but real racing is different, between DRS and ERS and all the overtaking and tire management and everything else in strategy things can get very tricky very quickly.

I still hope Red Bull wins, not that I care about them or love them too much but I just hate seeing same people be champions every year, I hate it when Bayern does it, I hate it when Juventus does it and I hate it when PSG does it, we have seen two of those three broken this year, I hope that Verstappen can take it and make it a third.

Verstappen finished nearly a second above Hamilton during FP3 as well, but I think it is not going to be similar in the real race. If you know f1 you know that practices usually do not mean anything, they just show you which person worked the hardest.

I know HAAS cars can't be at the top even if they worked really hard, but like Mclaren can easily finish at the top place, Norris could just send it for one lap and do that but it would really damage the car to be like that without a reason. The sad part about F1 is that it requires way too much money, I do not know if teams make any profit at all even with sponsors, but it requires too much capital, which means every crash is a horrible deal for the teams, and every damage on the cars means they are unusable again or they are risking position, so practice is where people literally practice the track and that's it.

[coinlocket$]

Good call on your top 4 for quali.

Story of my life, when I do no bet I would win.
When I bet I lose.

The race will be interesting especially with the tire situation going on (we don't know if Redbull was cheating).
Also, some safety cars can happen as we saw a lot of accidents there.


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[Pulsar77]

Good call on your top 4 for quali.

Story of my life, when I do no bet I would win.
When I bet I lose.

The race will be interesting especially with the tire situation going on (we don't know if Redbull was cheating).
Also, some safety cars can happen as we saw a lot of accidents there.


HAM
VER
PER

SAIN

BOTTAS DNF

 

I think that we will see a great competition between Hamilton and Verstappen in this race. But Verstappen seems like he is one step ahead of Hamilton if we consider the qualifying results.

My top 3 prediction:

1. VER
2. HAM
3. PER

[AndySt]

It will be a very interesting race tomorrow in F1 with Max Verstappen starting in Pole Position and right behind him there is Hamilton and Bottas in second and third but also 4th his team mate which usually these last races has been a big help to him.It is somewhat more difficult to see a lot of overtakes in this track so it will be good to see who will come out on P1 after the first turn as it will give him a lot of chances to win the race.

Surprisingly, Ferrari were not able to take pole again Red Bull has a very fast car this year and is faster than Mercedes and Hamilton is already beginning to recognize this, so it will be very interesting to see the race itself and how the cars will behave in the combat conditions of the race, and not in the hothouse conditions of qualifying. The main news is that Bottas will also start among the leaders, despite the increased rumors about his future move to Alfa Romeo. Also interesting news is that Carlos Sainz is a serious competitor to Charles Leclair in Ferrari and beat him in qualifying. Tsunoda continues to test Helmut Marko's not-so-persistent patience.

[Luzin]

Zarco was also a little lucky pole position, his crash triggered the caution phase and so nobody could hit back. Aboit Rossi, yes he is currently not in the best shape and has little confidence in the motorcycle, but Yamaha should be concerned about Vinales, he is only penultimate, that shouldn't be a factory team's claim.

For Marquez in 2019 he was the fastest at Germany MotoGP, with a time of 1'21,228. But with his current condition I don't think he will be the best here. I prefer Quartararo, Miller and Zarco for today's German GP result. Maybe next KTM, Honda doesn't seem to have found a good bike suit for this season.

Then about Vinales, last year he was unstable and for this season maybe he has a problem with the bike.

[blue Snow]

Marquez entered the top 5 in the German MotoGP qualifier. Is he going to rise again here.

I don't think so, Marquez still didn't receive the best performance after the break a year ago. he always crashes and didn't have confidence in this year. I think not only Marquez even the honda team (Repsol), So far Repsol honda never get the podium this year, are this is the problem with machines? or the racer?. Marquez ever said the problem with the tire.

[Koal-84]

I'm already looking forward to the Sachsenring race today, there could be another flag to flag race, rain is not unlikely and could ruin the race and the final result. There could be surprises. To a great and exciting race even if the teams assume that it will stay dry, but the asphalt is also cooler.

[Luzin]

To a great and exciting race even if the teams assume that it will stay dry, but the asphalt is also cooler.

Marquez number one, the race is still long? Will he be able to endure to the end? Too bad Quartararo dropped to 4th position, Olivera was able to go up.


Source: https://www.useetv.com/livetv/trans7

[bitzizzix]

To a great and exciting race even if the teams assume that it will stay dry, but the asphalt is also cooler.

Marquez number one, the race is still long? Will he be able to endure to the end? Too bad Quartararo dropped to 4th position, Olivera was able to go up.


Source: https://www.useetv.com/livetv/trans7

Yes, Marquez is still leading on lap 28 and there are still 2 laps left which I think Marquez will stay in position 1 until the end of the lap.

and Olivera is second and far from Marquez and will not be able to race him, Marquez is difficult to catch if he is already in first position.

[Koal-84]

Very good race from Marc Marquez and from KTM overall, very poor performance from Yamaha, Rossi was the 2 strongest rider, that shouldn't be the claim of Yamaha. Sachsenring is simply Marc Marquez land, next week in Assen Yamaha and Rossi should be strong again. But still very disappointing from Vinales and Morbidelli.

[toast]

That was a bad start for Verstappen, he got away well but at the first corner it already went wrong, he should be happy that he is still 2nd and has not crashed. You should not expect such mistakes from someone like Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton is now well ahead with a 2 seconds lead, it will be difficult to overtake now