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August 24, 2016, 01:28:20 AM Last edit: August 24, 2016, 02:13:48 AM by drays |
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The last record in the genesis block here ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/master/genesis-block.json) reads: { "btc_amount": 0.8082131, "mir_amount": 0, "btc_tx": "c091160dcaaaac6879cdfd7726a200801670a9f31bf7a7c531e0ae7b77f6e70e", "btc_block": 425929, "owner_pubkey": "04810e546fd2472a6ff9d6b7413ef663bc34231f460b1724080a94f2674d4264dd136af52cd1b9b987263ba198bccde1cf4b304c616e04fde67a4c2308d1b2df89" } Does this indeed mean this brave guy will get exactly "0 XEL"? That could make this donation a first purely altruistic one, regardless of the intent of the donator...
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August 24, 2016, 01:31:01 AM |
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The last record in the genesis block here ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/master/genesis-block.json) reads: { "btc_amount": 0.8082131, "mir_amount": 0, "btc_tx": "c091160dcaaaac6879cdfd7726a200801670a9f31bf7a7c531e0ae7b77f6e70e", "btc_block": 425929, "owner_pubkey": "04810e546fd2472a6ff9d6b7413ef663bc34231f460b1724080a94f2674d4264dd136af52cd1b9b987263ba198bccde1cf4b304c616e04fde67a4c2308d1b2df89" } Does this mean this guy will get exactly 0 XEL..? So this donation becomes a pure altruistic act, regardless of the intent of the donator..? I guess his BTC amount will be sent back to his sending account.
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August 24, 2016, 04:27:57 AM |
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They were indeed moved elsewhere! I just want to point out what most people forget: No matter who holds, receives or earns BTC ... in all cases taxes have to be paid. That means income taxes, VAT, and some other minor crap which means that half of the BTC are essentially gone by the beginning of the next year. Holding BTC imho is very risky business. The taxes are calculated based on the value the coins had at the time they were received. If the value of BTC drops by 50% it essentially means you're broke, because (as I said) the taxes will be calculated from the original value (before the drop) and you have to suddenly sell all of your BTC (or if you're unlucky even more) to cover the tax debts. You actually pay taxes for your bitcoin in the US? How can they prove you own an address? Even if they know of elastic and the donation address, its a lost cause the moment you move them.
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August 24, 2016, 05:14:57 AM |
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They were indeed moved elsewhere! I just want to point out what most people forget: No matter who holds, receives or earns BTC ... in all cases taxes have to be paid. That means income taxes, VAT, and some other minor crap which means that half of the BTC are essentially gone by the beginning of the next year. Holding BTC imho is very risky business. The taxes are calculated based on the value the coins had at the time they were received. If the value of BTC drops by 50% it essentially means you're broke, because (as I said) the taxes will be calculated from the original value (before the drop) and you have to suddenly sell all of your BTC (or if you're unlucky even more) to cover the tax debts. You actually pay taxes for your bitcoin in the US? How can they prove you own an address? Even if they know of elastic and the donation address, its a lost cause the moment you move them. even he does not move the bitcoin, what you can do? you have no access to the btc any more.
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August 24, 2016, 03:03:51 PM |
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Almost finished with the last open points (UI glitches), also the "efficiency plot" is now finally functional and can be scaled to different time spans ;-)
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August 24, 2016, 03:09:16 PM |
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Watching closely, one of the best projects of 2016
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August 24, 2016, 03:12:43 PM |
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I missed the chance to join Elastic Project in the last day. So regretful now. XEL will get high standing in a short future
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August 24, 2016, 03:39:40 PM |
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I bought in the first week and got the max bonus! Cant wait for the bounties next
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unvoid
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August 24, 2016, 07:13:36 PM |
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Can't wait to run testnet node.
I've downloaded code. Tomorrow I'll test it out in closed env.
@Evil-Knievel are we going to launch testnet before supply voting or after?
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BTC: 1CMgHWx4wkAaAy2FfeCyPdedUExmhGhfi5 XEL: XEL-HCM8-KB6E-YFLK-8BWMF
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unvoid
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August 24, 2016, 07:20:51 PM |
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As soon as testnet will be live I'll strat to create blockchain explorer.
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BTC: 1CMgHWx4wkAaAy2FfeCyPdedUExmhGhfi5 XEL: XEL-HCM8-KB6E-YFLK-8BWMF
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August 24, 2016, 08:20:37 PM |
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The last record in the genesis block here ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/master/genesis-block.json) reads: { "btc_amount": 0.8082131, "mir_amount": 0, "btc_tx": "c091160dcaaaac6879cdfd7726a200801670a9f31bf7a7c531e0ae7b77f6e70e", "btc_block": 425929, "owner_pubkey": "04810e546fd2472a6ff9d6b7413ef663bc34231f460b1724080a94f2674d4264dd136af52cd1b9b987263ba198bccde1cf4b304c616e04fde67a4c2308d1b2df89" } Does this mean this guy will get exactly 0 XEL..? So this donation becomes a pure altruistic act, regardless of the intent of the donator..? I guess his BTC amount will be sent back to his sending account. Not sure. According to OP - "as a general rule, all donations by their very nature can't be refunded". But anyway, let the guy speak for himself; maybe he is ok with this, who knows.
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August 24, 2016, 08:23:23 PM |
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The last record in the genesis block here ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/elastic-project/genesis-block/master/genesis-block.json) reads: { "btc_amount": 0.8082131, "mir_amount": 0, "btc_tx": "c091160dcaaaac6879cdfd7726a200801670a9f31bf7a7c531e0ae7b77f6e70e", "btc_block": 425929, "owner_pubkey": "04810e546fd2472a6ff9d6b7413ef663bc34231f460b1724080a94f2674d4264dd136af52cd1b9b987263ba198bccde1cf4b304c616e04fde67a4c2308d1b2df89" } Does this mean this guy will get exactly 0 XEL..? So this donation becomes a pure altruistic act, regardless of the intent of the donator..? I guess his BTC amount will be sent back to his sending account. Not sure. According to OP - "as a general rule, all donations by their very nature can't be refunded". But anyway, let the guy speak for himself; maybe he is ok with this, who knows. In fact i know him and he is pretty desperate in regards to money. He has an account here at BTT "Architron" but hasnt been logged in since years i suppose.
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August 25, 2016, 12:07:23 AM |
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Can't wait to run testnet node.
I've downloaded code. Tomorrow I'll test it out in closed env.
@Evil-Knievel are we going to launch testnet before supply voting or after?
Cool, expect a few things not to work 100% because I am still fixing a couple minor things. But if you want to play with the early version, here is a quick and dirty tutorial that I made: NOTE: The video is a week old, there are already many new things in there and the UI may look differently ;-)
BTW: Making a block explorer would be awesome! I am sure you would get a decent bonus from Lannister for that.
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August 25, 2016, 07:59:42 AM |
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Just for reference I had a problem signing my transaction which was resolved by the very helpful Evil guy If you copy paste the message "I support etc" then there is an extra character you need to delete. Also, *it does not* work if you just type the message yourself for some weird reason (I am using Electrum).
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August 25, 2016, 08:32:52 AM |
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I still can't find my btc address on voting, I have found my input on the genesis but no joy.
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August 25, 2016, 08:35:22 AM |
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I still can't find my btc address on voting, I have found my input on the genesis but no joy.
dear, you didn't follow the step and finished the vote. after voting, you will find your address.
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August 25, 2016, 10:18:22 AM |
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As soon as testnet will be live I'll strat to create blockchain explorer.
Don't forget to pull the code changes from today!
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August 25, 2016, 10:28:51 AM |
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It's a must to vote ? I mean i buyed on the 1st week of the project and I think the current vote is ok .
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August 25, 2016, 10:55:05 AM |
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so when will we have a testnet?
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