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April 17, 2016, 05:38:19 PM
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I applaud you for choosing NXT code as a basis, as it is a lot cleaner and more modular!

I'll be honest seeing the BTC core being used as a basis was a huge turn off for me.

Thank you very much. Yes the BTC core was a huge turn off for me too. It was a quick way to get the approach (combination mini-blockchain and POS) done and evaluate it a bit, but for the long term I felt we need something modern. Something that actually looks like a "2.0" project.

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Also LuaJIT can be quite fast, in fact even faster than regularly compiled code in some cases.

Yes, I have seen that one and it looked promising. Might be the way to go. If you have already experience with it you are invited to join me on this part ;-)


I need some rest now, this was one hell of a weekend. I was working 14 hours a day. From bed to computer, from computer to bed.
I'll get a glass of wine, grab a book, and get some time off.

Yes, need to pause once in awhile, otherwise efficiency goes in the shitter. They didn't come up with a 40 hour work week randomly. Experiments showed that this was the most efficient in the long run! Smiley

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April 17, 2016, 06:33:58 PM
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This doesn't take off.
Surely due to the fact the developers keep themselves anonymous.
Not introducing yourselves to the community is rather old fashion and create a big shade on your true intentions.

Well, my true intention is to build a great tool (one that is a never before seen technical innovation). One that I can actually use: as you probably know, I work as a researcher and regularily have to solve complex optimization problems (genetic algorithms, simulated annealing, monte carlo sampling and many more). I have access to a cluster but it has only a few hundred nodes and it requires using certain libraries which render the development a pain in the ass. So I need an easy and efficient way get (at least parts of) these tasks done. What if I can hack my code into LUA and have it solved by 20000 nodes? That would be great.

Not sure why this project does not get that much attention. Probably because it has not hired a whole bunch of promoters, signature campaign users, hypers, sockpuppets and other interesting people who dedicate their time to hype a coin "to the moon".

When I take a look at some recent and ongoing projects, I see some shiny websites with smiling faces of "dev team" members scattered all over it. They, of course, come along with a CV stating how good they are, how many bachelor thesises they have written, what programming languages they know and what websites they have created so far.

Good, if that is what you are looking for, go ahead.
I think that, if most of these people that get involved in those projects, knew what kind of brilliant people are involved in Elastic, they would change their minds quickly  Wink  I think that nobody here needs to show off with his bachelor's thesis because a master's thesis and a phd thesis have already followed, in some cases long time ago, already.

Then why is nobody writing that down? Because it does not matter. I think we all are glad that we are not confronted with any hypers, pump and dumpers and people who love glossy images on nice (promotional) websites. We want to create great software that solves complex algorithmic problems, and (at least me) even do not want to get paid a single cent for it. If that happens without much attention, then that's just how it is.

To sum up: I think everyone here is wishing those, who have thousands of BTC that they throw at "publicly known" dev teams with the third interpretation of the same idea A LOT success over at these projects. May the force be with you.
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April 17, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
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I like that attitude :-)
Good luck!

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April 17, 2016, 08:34:57 PM
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Just to unveil maybe a little about me. I am not new to Bitcoin, not at all.
Actually, I would consider myself one of the early adopters and I was fighting for the decentralization, the security, and the autonomy of Bitcoin ever since.

For example I was investigating (and finally uncovered) a very large surveillance attack on Bitcoin which I eventually made public.
This was a big story in the news:
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/03/15/is-this-startup-threatening-the-entire-bitcoin-network/
http://www.coinspeaker.com/2015/03/16/mycelium-chainalysis-blockchain-parse-jan-moller-7699/

Of course I have contributed towards the development of the Bitcoin Client itself ...
Check in the affiliations: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-notes/release-notes-0.10.1.md

... as well as to NXT (those who know me probably remember the legendary Proof-of-Stake-turns-Proof-of-Work Bug) and Counterparty.

There are many more such stories which i either do not want to get tied to myself (mostly uncovering large scale attacks), which I forgot or which I don't have a reference for at the moment.

But no way, I will put it on some website and try to use it for advertising Elastic. Elastic is Elastic, Bitcoin was Bitcoin, these are two entirely different projects.
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April 17, 2016, 08:43:29 PM
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Building useful and task specific tools for everyone is what crypto should be about, I'm glad at least a few in crypto feel the same. Great progress, at this rate we'll be folding before the halving.
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April 17, 2016, 08:49:31 PM
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I like that attitude :-)

Building useful and task specific tools for everyone is what crypto should be about, I'm glad at least a few in crypto feel the same.

Finaly someone with the same view ;-) We are a minority though.
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April 17, 2016, 10:52:37 PM
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Any example for LUA scripts?

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April 17, 2016, 10:58:01 PM
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Any example for LUA scripts?

We will have to create a large variety of examples for LUA scripts solving different kinds
of problems and bundle them, along with detailed descriptions, into an SDK.

For now, if you just want to see how LUA looks like, here one simple example. The SHA256 function:
https://github.com/catwell/cw-lua/blob/master/sha256/sha256.lua

Of course you could use that to build a Bitcoin miner, and let the Elastic network mine for you (this will be one example in the SDK  Wink)
Using the "change work" / "abort work" functions you can also easily react to new blocks on the Bitcoin blockchain just as you can react to other events.
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April 18, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
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What s your plan?How long do you plan to finish the project?
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April 18, 2016, 05:39:33 AM
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How come residents of Canada are not eligible in the crowdfunding?

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April 18, 2016, 06:16:22 AM
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This doesn't take off.
Surely due to the fact the developers keep themselves anonymous.
Not introducing yourselves to the community is rather old fashion and create a big shade on your true intentions.



Not sure why this project does not get that much attention. Probably because it has not hired a whole bunch of promoters, signature campaign users, hypers, sockpuppets and other interesting people who dedicate their time to hype a coin "to the moon".


Maybe it's also because no one in the US/Canada/other places can "donate."
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April 18, 2016, 06:18:16 AM
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This doesn't take off.
Surely due to the fact the developers keep themselves anonymous.
Not introducing yourselves to the community is rather old fashion and create a big shade on your true intentions.



Not sure why this project does not get that much attention. Probably because it has not hired a whole bunch of promoters, signature campaign users, hypers, sockpuppets and other interesting people who dedicate their time to hype a coin "to the moon".


Maybe it's also because no one in the US/Canada/other places can "donate."

But It gave me a bitcoin deposit address the first time I checked out the site. Now that i have returned with the coins, it tells me that i'm not eligible based on my IP.

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April 19, 2016, 08:52:38 AM
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Good luck with your project bro!

Morepower to this project


PS i like your name lol

PPS: are there any bounties ? haha

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April 19, 2016, 09:13:23 AM
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Good to see that more and more people are getting involved  Wink

@techwriterjoe:

Yes that would be awesome, i think we need of course some explanations of what Elastic actually is, what problem it is trying to solve (outsourcing of computational tasks with a decentralized system that both takes care that 1. the computation is performed correctly and 2. the workers get paid reliably), maybe some somewhat (but not too much) technical explanation why the outsourcing of computational power is problematic (keyword, verifiable computation, verification must be easier to be performed without rerunning the entire program, aso.) is a problem.

Then (i'm just brainstorming) maybe some general background that there is a genesis block with credits multiple public keys with some XEL, maybe some background info on public/private keys and that the public keys can be redeemed with a signature.

I am sure there are many more. Thanks for joining us, I think a skilled writer is something Elastic needed most urgently.

@sprocket_fpga:

Perfect, you are on the waiting list  Wink

@Isarmatrose:

Yeah, you are absolutely right, it's just a loose formation of devs. Just because I am writing the most here does not mean that I have any authoritiy.
Great to see you joining us though, I agree with you that we need a todo list, it would be best to have one where we can actually discuss these todo points (if necessary) and not work just them off silently. Any ideas for a tool that we could use? And would you set one up?

@Lust:

Well, Lannister obviously has enough Btc by now (looks enough to me) so if you have a great idea how you could contribute and you want some compensation for that i'd just write him a message. I agree we need some kind of bounty platform, but somebody else must organize that as I do not want any involvement in any funds.
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April 19, 2016, 10:22:38 AM
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This doesn't take off.
Surely due to the fact the developers keep themselves .
Not introducing yourselves to the community is rather old fashion and create a big shade on your true intentions.


Same thoughts, if you honest and clearly state about risk and reward which you DID, what is the problem to be transparent.

If project fail, ITS NOT A SHAME.

So why the want to stay anonymous?

in the end you ask for money, give me the money:) but you cant provide basics like eg. charity does:)

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April 19, 2016, 11:59:00 AM
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Hello,

i sent BTC to 3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn but it shows other address (not mine). Anyone knows why? Thanks in advance.

https://blockchain.info/tx/a921720a53cbd9b78b246a89cf8c2e8c1bdd6701a350419bdebce9cdc391d930
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April 19, 2016, 12:00:31 PM
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It must be one of your "change addresses" Wink What wallet are you using?
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April 19, 2016, 03:12:35 PM
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Hello,

i sent BTC to 3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn but it shows other address (not mine). Anyone knows why? Thanks in advance.

https://blockchain.info/tx/a921720a53cbd9b78b246a89cf8c2e8c1bdd6701a350419bdebce9cdc391d930

i hope you are not send btc from exchange

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April 19, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
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Hello,

i sent BTC to 3Q2aKEGFTKDw3hghsBifXp39CZVMtZukxn but it shows other address (not mine). Anyone knows why? Thanks in advance.

https://blockchain.info/tx/a921720a53cbd9b78b246a89cf8c2e8c1bdd6701a350419bdebce9cdc391d930

i hope you are not send btc from exchange

Damn, he sent it from an exchange probably.
https://blockchain.info/address/1EubGbLwR9mdxZ5VSoCAoA3itAE6M7Kuid
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April 19, 2016, 07:58:34 PM
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Is this still happening??  Seems like it's going nowhere...
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