Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[HagssFIN]

Is anyone here with the S9 11.85Th/s (550Mhz) -model overclocked to ~12.93Th/s (600Mhz)?
Is it running stable and ok with 600Mhz settings or do you notice instability in miner operation?

I've found it depends on temperature. The other morning it was 40F so my machines were running very cool. I turned one up to 650 it ran at 13.85 great for 3 hours. Temperatures here rose so I got nervous and turned it back down. I've never overclocked a s9 before so I am still very leary, especially while they are still under warranty. Except for the one I overclocked of course.

Ok, so you are long-term good with 600Mhz and ~12.93Th/s?

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[Sierra8561]

Is anyone here with the S9 11.85Th/s (550Mhz) -model overclocked to ~12.93Th/s (600Mhz)?
Is it running stable and ok with 600Mhz settings or do you notice instability in miner operation?

I've found it depends on temperature. The other morning it was 40F so my machines were running very cool. I turned one up to 650 it ran at 13.85 great for 3 hours. Temperatures here rose so I got nervous and turned it back down. I've never overclocked a s9 before so I am still very leary, especially while they are still under warranty. Except for the one I overclocked of course.

Ok, so you are long-term good with 600Mhz and ~12.93Th/s?

I wouldn't consider 3 hours long term.

[HagssFIN]

Is anyone here with the S9 11.85Th/s (550Mhz) -model overclocked to ~12.93Th/s (600Mhz)?
Is it running stable and ok with 600Mhz settings or do you notice instability in miner operation?

I've found it depends on temperature. The other morning it was 40F so my machines were running very cool. I turned one up to 650 it ran at 13.85 great for 3 hours. Temperatures here rose so I got nervous and turned it back down. I've never overclocked a s9 before so I am still very leary, especially while they are still under warranty. Except for the one I overclocked of course.

Ok, so you are long-term good with 600Mhz and ~12.93Th/s?

I wouldn't consider 3 hours long term.

Ok. I thought 3 hours was for the 650Mhz OC session.

[alh]

........

12mo; can we dream?
Incidentally, I bought 5 more GPUs while S9 was not on sale, a.k.a they have serious competition now.

gpu's are the biggest competition bitmaintech has at the moment.

With all due respect, I must disagree with the view of GPU's being competition for Bitmain. Using a GPU to mine a different coin, which is then exchanged for BTC isn't really the same thing as buying a Bitcoin miner. Yes it may be a cheaper way to acquire BTC, mining another coin and exchanging does nothing in terms of the network, difficulty, and the like.

To some extent folks that might have spent their money on a Bitmain product, maybe it has a tiny impact. If there was a wholesale rush to mine-XXX/exchange, folks with actual BTC mining hardware might benefit from a long term stability or reduction in difficulty. The value proposition also is at the whim of the exchange rate, and longevity of the the XXX coin. I always wonder what happens to all those XXX coins that are exchanged for BTC. Who gets "stuck" with them?

Besides, Bitmain doesn't seem to have any difficulty selling their miners at the price they want, regardless of what folks do with their actual fiat money (e.g buying a GPU based system).

[philipma1957]

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12mo; can we dream?
Incidentally, I bought 5 more GPUs while S9 was not on sale, a.k.a they have serious competition now.

gpu's are the biggest competition bitmaintech has at the moment.

With all due respect, I must disagree with the view of GPU's being competition for Bitmain. Using a GPU to mine a different coin, which is then exchanged for BTC isn't really the same thing as buying a Bitcoin miner. Yes it may be a cheaper way to acquire BTC, mining another coin and exchanging does nothing in terms of the network, difficulty, and the like.

To some extent folks that might have spent their money on a Bitmain product, maybe it has a tiny impact. If there was a wholesale rush to mine-XXX/exchange, folks with actual BTC mining hardware might benefit from a long term stability or reduction in difficulty. The value proposition also is at the whim of the exchange rate, and longevity of the the XXX coin. I always wonder what happens to all those XXX coins that are exchanged for BTC. Who gets "stuck" with them?

Besides, Bitmain doesn't seem to have any difficulty selling their miners at the price they want, regardless of what folks do with their actual fiat money (e.g buying a GPU based system).

Okay the Internet is a hard place to discuss  with an s-9 .
I can see your point in that bitmaintech doesn't care if miners buy gpus.
I have 23 gpus mining at about 500mh earning 900 usd and costing 430 in power that is 18 cent power
I net 470 usd per month.

I have 55th in s-9 it earns me money but has  free power due to solar array deal I have.
I can only lose on s-9 if it breaks since my warranty is 90 days.

So when I want to add gear I need to weigh the following  2 year warranty for gpu gear with the risk of all gpu coins crashing.

Or a 90 day warranty on s-9 which the risk of the s-9 breaking.

So I am middling my risk.

If the solar array was on my land and in my house I would have a few gpu miners running in it.

I can not see me going all gpu or all s-9 .  So I see  gpus and s-9 as different tools to dig crypto coin.

I also see all coins as the same item no real difference between them when viewed as a means to acquire wealth.  Obviously coins are consider different in other ways, but a million usd of any coin is a million usd.

[mamiakimo]

i replaced my air condition to a powerful one 2.25HP
now i increased freq from 500 to 550 and free my fan from 100% speed to auto

[fusion0389]

i replaced my air condition to a powerful one 2.25HP
now i increased freq from 500 to 550 and free my fan from 100% speed to auto

Nice temperatures!

[AriesIV10]

ANTMINER S9-B15, 12.93TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid

Not For Sale    Buy Button Greyed Out.

[Sierra8561]

ANTMINER S9-B15, 12.93TH/s,shipping out within 7 days after fully paid

Not For Sale    Buy Button Greyed Out.

Those sold out quick

[ATCkit]

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12mo; can we dream?
Incidentally, I bought 5 more GPUs while S9 was not on sale, a.k.a they have serious competition now.

gpu's are the biggest competition bitmaintech has at the moment.

With all due respect, I must disagree with the view of GPU's being competition for Bitmain. Using a GPU to mine a different coin, which is then exchanged for BTC isn't really the same thing as buying a Bitcoin miner. Yes it may be a cheaper way to acquire BTC, mining another coin and exchanging does nothing in terms of the network, difficulty, and the like.

To some extent folks that might have spent their money on a Bitmain product, maybe it has a tiny impact. If there was a wholesale rush to mine-XXX/exchange, folks with actual BTC mining hardware might benefit from a long term stability or reduction in difficulty. The value proposition also is at the whim of the exchange rate, and longevity of the the XXX coin. I always wonder what happens to all those XXX coins that are exchanged for BTC. Who gets "stuck" with them?

Besides, Bitmain doesn't seem to have any difficulty selling their miners at the price they want, regardless of what folks do with their actual fiat money (e.g buying a GPU based system).

Okay the Internet is a hard place to discuss  with an s-9 .
I can see your point in that bitmaintech doesn't care if miners buy gpus.
I have 23 gpus mining at about 500mh earning 900 usd and costing 430 in power that is 18 cent power
I net 470 usd per month.

I have 55th in s-9 it earns me money but has  free power due to solar array deal I have.
I can only lose on s-9 if it breaks since my warranty is 90 days.

So when I want to add gear I need to weigh the following  2 year warranty for gpu gear with the risk of all gpu coins crashing.

Or a 90 day warranty on s-9 which the risk of the s-9 breaking.

So I am middling my risk.

If the solar array was on my land and in my house I would have a few gpu miners running in it.

I can not see me going all gpu or all s-9 .  So I see  gpus and s-9 as different tools to dig crypto coin.

I also see all coins as the same item no real difference between them when viewed as a means to acquire wealth.  Obviously coins are consider different in other ways, but a million usd of any coin is a million usd.

I'm using a similar strategy. Diversifying helps to decrease risk.

ATM, I'm testing one of those new 150MHS X11 rigs that  can mine on 5 algos and uses very little electricity. A few the coins i'm able to mine have been around for a long time: ie Dash and Digibyte. I'm also researching a new/efficient  200MHS machine that can mine any GPU coin and uses only 800 watts.

My gut tells me that others are looking for more profitable/efficient alternatives to straight BTC mining.

So I hope BTC difficulty levels off. That way, I hope I'm able to keep existing last generation BTC gear (S7s and A6s) and the price of this generation's gear ( S9s and A7s) becomes a lot better. If not, there's always other mining gear opportunities to explore.

BTC mining gear manufacturers will not be the only "crypto mining gear makers" to make equipment in the crypto world....and some other coins will be around for the long run too. OFC, there is the same concern that happened to the Scrypt algo when Scrypt ASICs emerged.

TLDR:  As long as we can ROI under 8 months on any other equipment, my BTC mining gear purchases will take a back seat.

[mettalmag]

can someone pleas etell me what temperature is normal for S9 to hash on ?
for PCB and CHIP of course
thanks

[sidehack]

I think this question has already been asked about 113 times in this thread, which means any given page will probably have the answer.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

can someone pleas etell me what temperature is normal for S9 to hash on ?
for PCB and CHIP of course
thanks

Nice pretty picture here of normal temps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1615319.msg16231298#msg16231298

Temps good.
Chain-4 (board 3) is on its way out.... Nice "Real Time hashrate eh? Wonder what BMminer is looking at  'cause it sure aiina right

[mettalmag]

can someone pleas etell me what temperature is normal for S9 to hash on ?
for PCB and CHIP of course
thanks

Nice pretty picture here of normal temps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1615319.msg16231298#msg16231298

Temps good.
Chain-4 (board 3) is on its way out.... Nice "Real Time hashrate eh? Wonder what BMminer is looking at  'cause it sure aiina right

thanks for showing me this. On freq 600 mines are running on 98-102 and I think this is bit high, I left them on freq 300 which gives avarage temperature 80-87. I need to work on cooling system for mining room I guess.

[rsuarez]

greetings, have a S9 would be better to have 2 S7 ? I doubt that since I 'm new mining






Ricardo Suarez Caballero
Director Formativo en IIEMD.com - Marketing Digital

[yslyung]

greetings, have a S9 would be better to have 2 S7 ? I doubt that since I 'm new mining


anything that fails/breaks easily is NOT good !





Ricardo Suarez Caballero
Director Formativo en IIEMD.com - Marketing Digital

[fusion0389]

Looks like S9-B14 11.85 TH/s is currently in stock and ready for purchase, im holding out for the 12.93 TH/s to come back in stock.

[lippsman]

How much were the 12.93's going for ?

[toptek]

I'm using a similar strategy. Diversifying helps to decrease risk.

ATM, I'm testing one of those new 150MHS X11 rigs that  can mine on 5 algos and uses very little electricity. A few the coins i'm able to mine have been around for a long time: ie Dash and Digibyte. I'm also researching a new/efficient  200MHS machine that can mine any GPU coin and uses only 800 watts.

My gut tells me that others are looking for more profitable/efficient alternatives to straight BTC mining.

So I hope BTC difficulty levels off. That way, I hope I'm able to keep existing last generation BTC gear (S7s and A6s) and the price of this generation's gear ( S9s and A7s) becomes a lot better. If not, there's always other mining gear opportunities to explore.

BTC mining gear manufacturers will not be the only "crypto mining gear makers" to make equipment in the crypto world....and some other coins will be around for the long run too. OFC, there is the same concern that happened to the Scrypt algo when Scrypt ASICs emerged.

TLDR:  As long as we can ROI under 8 months on any other equipment, my BTC mining gear purchases will take a back seat.

I do the same thing and run three or four PC and mine XMR it's holding but price is dropping , i just won't mine it , when it gets to low . saving for two x11 miners , dash is holding around 12.84 s a coin , xmr goes up and down a lot but holding at 10 dollars and eth is around 11 bucks . it all add up and not to bad to mine this way, i like Mining btc but the gear cost to much etc .I have some older btc gear I use from time to time and about 178 MH in script miners, i got a really good deal on a Alchemist 256 that had a bad controller which was no issue . it had one board also . the other seven boards work, i dropped one and messed it up beyond repair and donated one to some one to tech schools with. so i have five boards and one Gridseed 25 MH miner not the little two blade one .a Avalon 6, may try to buy another one,after i get one or two more amd 470 or 480 depends on cash when i buy them .a S1 S3  C1 and A4.1 that set all work the S3 has 2 bad chips . the other miners work like they should.

[not.you]

greetings, have a S9 would be better to have 2 S7 ? I doubt that since I 'm new mining






Ricardo Suarez Caballero
Director Formativo en IIEMD.com - Marketing Digital

Well the S7's have a better reliability track record at this point.  The S9's use less power though.