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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530832 times)
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November 09, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Last edit: November 10, 2016, 02:27:39 AM by NotFuzzyWarm
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Anyone try the old firmware on the new autotune s9?
I have 3 autotune s9's.
One is running 644 644 590 freqs on the gui.
Awesome miner shows 706 706 706. What do you suppose that means? Awesome miner not  quite working with autotune s9's?
By gum yer right: just looked at my b18. GUI reports 487.77, 460.44, and 568.2 while Awesome says all boards are 606MHz. My b17 shows the same discrepancy. Need to let Patrike know about this...

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November 09, 2016, 08:12:06 PM
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Anyone try the old firmware on the new autotune s9?
I have 3 autotune s9's.
One is running 644 644 590 freqs on the gui.
Awesome miner shows 706 706 706. What do you suppose that means? Awesome miner not  quite working with autotune s9's?
By gum yer right: just looked at my b18. GUI reports 487.77, 460.44, and 568.2 while Awesome says all boards are 606MHz. Need to let Patrik know about this...
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November 09, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
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Looks like it's by no means stable. Thermal cycling is hard on the works.
agreed. Looks like around a 20C swing for them. Mechanically that is not good for the chips and more specifically their solder bonds to the boards.

I just looked at my s9's and even the B17 and my latest a B18 (both never upgraded, has the auto-tune) is holding temps to about a 8-10C swing. I do see that the pre-auto tune ones with manual fan control have less variance, seems to be around 5-7C with my fans set to 85%.

In your screen shot I take it the gray-dotted trace and a couple others (~10C swing or less) are non-autotune miners?

all miners have the same firmware but this one is there new one that boards haven't same freq
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November 09, 2016, 09:11:45 PM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
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November 09, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
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Both my batch 18's look like they might have a dead board in them after just 8 days use.   Sad

Need to check when I get home
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Ends up there are no down boards, but the machine is clocking itself down to 7TH and one board is giving weird output numbers.

Going to try rebooting them one at a time see if that helps.

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November 09, 2016, 09:38:59 PM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
Different freq boards means it is autotune.
New stuff.
New firmware, new hardware controller.
I don't think the autotune s9 will work with old firmware, (pre autotune) but I have not tried it.

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November 09, 2016, 09:39:35 PM
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Both my batch 18's look like they might have a dead board in them after just 8 days use.   Sad

Need to check when I get home
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Kano
Kano is nice and smooth, should be good.
You may be able to send the dead board to Denver and they may fix it for $175+$25 shipping.
One of mine just arrived there now. You need a ticket at bitmainwarrany.com
Denver can walk you through troubleshooting first.

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November 09, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
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Both my batch 18's look like they might have a dead board in them after just 8 days use.   Sad

Need to check when I get home
What pool?

Kano
Kano is nice and smooth, should be good.
You may be able to send the dead board to Denver and they may fix it for $175+$25 shipping.
One of mine just arrived there now. You need a ticket at bitmainwarrany.com

Lol yes I know I've been mining there since a few months after it started.

They aren't dead just acting wierd. bitmainwarranty is an option, depends what costs more, the last one I sent back to China worked out ok.

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November 09, 2016, 10:51:01 PM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
Different freq boards means it is autotune.
New stuff.
New firmware, new hardware controller.
I don't think the autotune s9 will work with old firmware, (pre autotune) but I have not tried it.

this version Antminer-S9-all-201611020159-autofreq-user.tar doesn't have this issue
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November 09, 2016, 11:25:52 PM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
Different freq boards means it is autotune.
New stuff.
New firmware, new hardware controller.
I don't think the autotune s9 will work with old firmware, (pre autotune) but I have not tried it.

this version Antminer-S9-all-201611020159-autofreq-user.tar doesn't have this issue
1102 seems to run too hot. There is an 1108 version.

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November 09, 2016, 11:36:39 PM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
Different freq boards means it is autotune.
New stuff.
New firmware, new hardware controller.
I don't think the autotune s9 will work with old firmware, (pre autotune) but I have not tried it.

this version Antminer-S9-all-201611020159-autofreq-user.tar doesn't have this issue
1102 seems to run too hot. There is an 1108 version.

i returned to Antminer-S9-all-201610260255-autofreq-user.tar
best one
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November 09, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
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different between 3 versions

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November 10, 2016, 12:00:47 AM
Last edit: January 11, 2024, 10:51:27 PM by OgNasty
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difference between 3 versions



This graph really highlights how much worse the fan profile is getting with each firmware release.

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November 10, 2016, 12:26:47 AM
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I would like to see one that can keep the temps under 100 without ramping up and down over and over again.  How hard could it be to set it up to make smaller speed adjustments when slowing and only do large adjustments when speeding up? If it's hot and you need it cool you need it to speed up quick but if it is cool you don't need it to drop from 100% all the way to 10% the way some of them do.  That's dumb.

EDIT: Or just give us manual control back...
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November 10, 2016, 05:01:19 AM
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should i return to old firmware or what ?
they told me don't worry it's fine
Different freq boards means it is autotune.
New stuff.
New firmware, new hardware controller.
I don't think the autotune s9 will work with old firmware, (pre autotune) but I have not tried it.

this version Antminer-S9-all-201611020159-autofreq-user.tar doesn't have this issue
1102 seems to run too hot. There is an 1108 version.

i returned to Antminer-S9-all-201610260255-autofreq-user.tar
best one

Previous early batch s9 default freq 550/600, the hashboards have missing heatsinks (bitmain took out intentionally). If we update the new auto tune firmware s9, i think the boards will be too hot..so with the new auto tune s9 firmware, is it OK to update?
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November 10, 2016, 11:05:15 AM
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Both my batch 18's look like they might have a dead board in them after just 8 days use.   Sad

Need to check when I get home
What pool?

Kano
Kano is nice and smooth, should be good.
You may be able to send the dead board to Denver and they may fix it for $175+$25 shipping.
One of mine just arrived there now. You need a ticket at bitmainwarrany.com

Lol yes I know I've been mining there since a few months after it started.

They aren't dead just acting wierd. bitmainwarranty is an option, depends what costs more, the last one I sent back to China worked out ok.

Reboot seemed to sort them out. Back to 11TH

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November 10, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
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The S9 has been sold out for a while, any news on new batches?
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November 10, 2016, 02:42:13 PM
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The S9 has been sold out for a while, any news on new batches?

Its only been sold out for 2 days. They released a new batch 2 days ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg16810866#msg16810866 and they sold out in a couple of hours.

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November 10, 2016, 10:44:30 PM
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Sent another sick s9 board to denver , repair was $175+$25 to ship back.
One day turn around in denver.
Will be here in two days.
Excellent.

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November 10, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
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Sent another sick s9 board to denver , repair was $175+$25 to ship back.
One day turn around in denver.
Will be here in two days.
Excellent.
Ja. gotta love the ability to insure at full value + no concerns with Customs.

Now -- if we can only get Bitmain Warranty to tell us WHAT is failing on these boards! I asked them about it a couple time in email and is usually the same answer: "Well it means having the tech(s) record what they find and what is done to resolve it. That means someone (in Bitmain Warranty) has to enter the info in to logs and update the tickets with the information...."

In short - they won't do it because "it takes time and people.."
Riiiiight. Bet each tech has a daily work log of what they do eg. what Ticket#'s they work on, how many parts, when started, when done.. Bet *somewhere* in that work Ticket information is the diagnosis and resolution of problem. In other words: Fault(s) found and how repaired/why replaced. So why not lets us know?

Given what the repair cost runs, mine in the past have been around $140+ return shipping, Whatever is failing cannot be taking long to find/fix nor cost much if it a physical part that needs to be attended to. My company bills board/module (laser systems) repairs @ $115/hr + parts and based on that -- you get what I mean.

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