Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[TheYankeesWin!]

Hey phil  I just read you got stuck $78 in customs?

WTF?

[philipma1957]

Hey phil  I just read you got stuck $78 in customs?

WTF?

Yeah  My r4 and s9  were inside the same week   Dec 7th and Dec 12th

so they combined the value and taxed me.



read quote below

I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex


$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7


$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12


Since each item was well under 2500 in value

 I should have paid $0

I contacted fedex

here is their explantion

the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value
the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value

total is  2,636.66   since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.

My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.   


 So I now must add $78.81 to my cost

[wolfen]

Hey phil  I just read you got stuck $78 in customs?

WTF?

Yeah  My r4 and s9  were inside the same week   Dec 7th and Dec 12th

so they combined the value and taxed me.



read quote below

I just got 2 customs bills from Fedex


$35.68 for 1 R4 Which was delivered to me on Dec 7


$43.13 for 1 S9 Which was delivered to me on Dec 12


Since each item was well under 2500 in value

 I should have paid $0

I contacted fedex

here is their explantion

the r4 is 1,147.49 declared value
the s9 is 1,489.17 declared value

total is  2,636.66   since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.

My translation = Fuck you pay the money bitch.   


 So I now must add $78.81 to my cost

That really sucks.

[Swimmer63]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

[Exoskeleton]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

I honestly hope they pull the plug on sales. Its the only way to keep the diff from going crazy with these prices. It would be nice to have a 6 month window with no new gear at all like when the S5 ended and nobody had anything for quite a while.

Honestly unless your brand new to mining I don't see how you can't have all your S9 miners yet with 22 batches out over the last 7 months.

[Biodom]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

I honestly hope they pull the plug on sales. Its the only way to keep the diff from going crazy with these prices. It would be nice to have a 6 month window with no new gear at all like when the S5 ended and nobody had anything for quite a while.

Honestly unless your brand new to mining I don't see how you can't have all your S9 miners yet with 22 batches out over the last 7 months.

they will definitely sell more R4s; S9-who knows?
My prediction is that they might do S9-LN (with two boards) instead at some point.
Not sure with or without PSU.

[HerbPean]

total is  2,636.66   since they arrived within 1 week they are considered 1 shipment.

That is so much bullshit ...

[agentcash]

Phil, check what fedex has it labeled as. Mine was labeled scrap iron/steel. A quick call to them to let them know it was computer hardware and they zeroed the bill.

[Longsnowsm]

I was looking at the beginning of this ANN for the S9 and it appears that they announced the S9 at the end of May with shipping in the middle of June. 

Did we have any other clues that they were about to release a new miner at that point?  I am trying to understand the amount of lead time we might get before they announce the next generation of miner.  Obviously the more lead time allows us to move the existing gear out to make room for new miners. 

So I was wondering what your experience has been with this.  If you had a S7's did you have any issues getting them sold once the S9 was out?  Or did you sell them before the S9 was released?

[philipma1957]

Phil, check what fedex has it labeled as. Mine was labeled scrap iron/steel. A quick call to them to let them know it was computer hardware and they zeroed the bill.

thanks I saw the word aluminum let me check.

it reads bitcoin miner model:s9 the material aluminum electronic components etc use for get bitcoin by operate

the other one reads

bitcoin miner model :r4 the material aluminum cn


maybe I can get some relief.





@ longsnowsm

there simply won't be a new piece of gear from them.

they are head and shoulders above any other company  take a look at hashnest  they sell cloud s7's  that still earn a good profit  never mind the s9's they sell
  they have zero need for an s10 or an s11 at the moment.

[elokk]

I was looking at the beginning of this ANN for the S9 and it appears that they announced the S9 at the end of May with shipping in the middle of June. 

Did we have any other clues that they were about to release a new miner at that point?  I am trying to understand the amount of lead time we might get before they announce the next generation of miner.  Obviously the more lead time allows us to move the existing gear out to make room for new miners. 

So I was wondering what your experience has been with this.  If you had a S7's did you have any issues getting them sold once the S9 was out?  Or did you sell them before the S9 was released?

There is always a market for older generation gear. S5 sold for the same price in December 2015 as it did in January 2015 after btc prices shot up and the s7 was hard to get a hold of

[agentcash]

Phil, check what fedex has it labeled as. Mine was labeled scrap iron/steel. A quick call to them to let them know it was computer hardware and they zeroed the bill.

thanks I saw the word aluminum let me check.

it reads bitcoin miner model:s9 the material aluminum electronic components etc use for get bitcoin by operate

the other one reads

bitcoin miner model :r4 the material aluminum cn


maybe I can get some relief.





@ longsnowsm

there simply won't be a new piece of gear from them.

they are head and shoulders above any other company  take a look at hashnest  they sell cloud s7's  that still earn a good profit  never mind the s9's they sell
  they have zero need for an s10 or an s11 at the moment.

Check box #30... mine says "ARTICLES OF IRON/STEEL" with a charge of $43.18 per S9. Some fedex employee probably saw aluminum & miner in the description and assumed it was raw earth mining materials.


Edit: and if anyone from Bitmain reads this, just put "Computer Hardware" or "Computer Peripheral" as the description when shipping via Fedex to the USA.

[jamesb777]

Hmm, thinking the main firmware on the hash board is fine, but it is the individual chain / chip firmware that's corrupted. Each individual ASIC chip looks like it has its own test ICSP connection. I think they get a copy of the app that is sent to each chip, that runs in its own memory space on its own hardware.

Not sure why they would all fail at the same time, or if it's the chain that failed somehow. Need to do a deeper analysis of the data on these ICSP connectors soon.

It's currently reading the main PIC, and it appears to be just fine. Then it tries to "restore" the 3200 block "app" package to the chains / ASICs, and that's where it fails. Then it goes on to trying to test the ASICs and reads nothing because their operating software is corrupt or badly written.

Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
retry Chain[J4] has 0 asic
miner total rate=0GH/s fixed rate=0GH/s

I think that's the sign that the asic app software is corrupted / munged up.

It's another avenue of attack anyway, will post results when I have the time.

 

I have a center hash board that is failing in the same exact manner.. log is able to connect to the hashboard reading pic firmware 0x02 but says chain has 0 asic. The board never lights up red and fails to show up in miner status.  This all happened a few days after updating to the new auto-tune firmware as well...

All the components seem fine on the hash board, voltage is not seen past the inductor like on my working hash boards.. I believe the software in the PIC controller has become corrupted or a safety mechanism detects a short circuit in the asic chain and prevents it from powering them up.

I've also ordered a pickit 3 to try to restore the PIC firmware, should know by the end of the week if it works out or not.  Please keep me updated on your situation as well!

[Exoskeleton]

I was looking at the beginning of this ANN for the S9 and it appears that they announced the S9 at the end of May with shipping in the middle of June. 

Did we have any other clues that they were about to release a new miner at that point?  I am trying to understand the amount of lead time we might get before they announce the next generation of miner.  Obviously the more lead time allows us to move the existing gear out to make room for new miners. 

So I was wondering what your experience has been with this.  If you had a S7's did you have any issues getting them sold once the S9 was out?  Or did you sell them before the S9 was released?

Bitmain has always come out of left field when it comes to announcing new miners. You usually get about 2-3 weeks notice. Lately they have only been giving about 12-24 hours notice before a new batch of S9s are released. They then sell out right away and are sold out for a few weeks.

Its an interesting way of doing things but I'm positive that they have put a lot of thought into how they release batches and I'm sure they maximize their profits this way. Lets just pray they only release R4 miners from now on to keep the diff low for the next 6 months. Its about time mining was profitable again, even if only for a short while.

[VentMine]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

I honestly hope they pull the plug on sales. Its the only way to keep the diff from going crazy with these prices. It would be nice to have a 6 month window with no new gear at all like when the S5 ended and nobody had anything for quite a while.

Honestly unless your brand new to mining I don't see how you can't have all your S9 miners yet with 22 batches out over the last 7 months.

Nahhhh, the last thing I want is to lose access to upgrading my gear. It would be bad for the community and bitcoin security if access is limited. It would be bad business on Bitmains part.

[Swimmer63]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

I honestly hope they pull the plug on sales. Its the only way to keep the diff from going crazy with these prices. It would be nice to have a 6 month window with no new gear at all like when the S5 ended and nobody had anything for quite a while.

Honestly unless your brand new to mining I don't see how you can't have all your S9 miners yet with 22 batches out over the last 7 months.

Not new, in case you couldn't tell.  I have added to my modest farm over time when it makes sense.  But it's been a while and don't frequent this thread as often as I used to. 
After 22 batches it will be interesting to see what happens.  I assume they are still committed to decentralization.  At least in their own minute way.

[philipma1957]

Has Bitmain given any hints as to when they will have S9's available?

I honestly hope they pull the plug on sales. Its the only way to keep the diff from going crazy with these prices. It would be nice to have a 6 month window with no new gear at all like when the S5 ended and nobody had anything for quite a while.

Honestly unless your brand new to mining I don't see how you can't have all your S9 miners yet with 22 batches out over the last 7 months.

Nahhhh, the last thing I want is to lose access to upgrading my gear. It would be bad for the community and bitcoin security if access is limited. It would be bad business on Bitmains part.

they will sell hash on hash nest

[mamiakimo]

they answered on facebook from a week

We are working on releasing the next batch of the Antminer S9 but do not have a date for its release yet. Please follow our Facebook page or Twitter account to stay informed about its release.

https://www.facebook.com/Bitmain/posts/1316468638394359?comment_id=1317531284954761&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D

[moe7865]

Don't know if you guys noticed but any gear bought after Oct 1st now has a standard 180 Day warranty.
This can be found under support where the create repair ticket tab is. Once you go in and create one and read the facts you will see that they have extended the warranty period to this.
It really makes buying these products more worthwhile

[Longsnowsm]

Don't know if you guys noticed but any gear bought after Oct 1st now has a standard 180 Day warranty.
This can be found under support where the create repair ticket tab is. Once you go in and create one and read the facts you will see that they have extended the warranty period to this.
It really makes buying these products more worthwhile

Here is what the "Work Order Guide" still states on the site:

A 90-day warranty is provided starting from the shipping date. Repair tickets must be created within that 90-day period, otherwise the warranty will be void.

And also it states:

  For the miner, please do NOT return the whole unit except for S9 bought after Oct. 1st, 2016 (Return the whole unit of S9 bought after Oct. 1st, 2016, just return the defective part (Hash board, IO board or BB board). What's IO board or BB board?

This is found under support, and click on guidance for repair.