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October 25, 2016, 04:10:41 AM
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Could someone answer some questions I have of this particular miner?

1. Is it possible to buy only one or two units, or must it be purchased at the minimum of 5 per order?
2. How loud is this thing?
3. Can anyone say how legitimate EastShore Mining Devices is? I saw the A4 and other miners on there but I know the ASIC market can be quite scam filled. [EastShore link][/https://www.eastshore.xyz/]

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Yes its possible to buy one but not from the company. Have to go to re-seller
The fans are very powerful so its kinda loud I have mine in the garage. You could not put this in your home its to loud unless you have big house
Dont know anything about eastshore but I purchased mine from aliexpresss so I could use a credit card to cover myself if they did not deliver.
Price on Aliexpress is 2600 including DHL fast shipping to the USA. From placing order to my door was 7 days
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October 25, 2016, 06:19:39 AM
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Could someone answer some questions I have of this particular miner?

1. Is it possible to buy only one or two units, or must it be purchased at the minimum of 5 per order?
2. How loud is this thing?
3. Can anyone say how legitimate EastShore Mining Devices is? I saw the A4 and other miners on there but I know the ASIC market can be quite scam filled. [EastShore link][/https://www.eastshore.xyz/]

Thanks in advance

I was told group buy was still in play 1 week ago (Sunday last week). The info came from the main sales email on the innsilicon page

3 units min at $1,800 usd.

I passed. But just say you are wanting the Bitcoin talk group buy (put it on your wire xfer in comments) what the heck assuming you can find some other guys and

get 1 each of the 3.

I probaby would have buckled on this toy if I could have gotten just ONE ..but again likely did not need the hassle of (likely) 1) giving them equiv $$$ in BTC

2) mine for 1 year  plus 3) after electric fair chance of getting original btc  back ...thus the oranges to apples back to oranges analogy.

The 45 day warranty really killed it for me however.

anyway what the heck ....people get dumber things then ASIC miners on the hope of a price pump of ltc etc.....but me I look at this at the present time as a
maybe get ROI back on $$$ spent in a year......at best or worse if difficulty for say LTC goes nuts..so a pass

hope it helps the above and you can still talk your way into the above etc


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October 25, 2016, 07:18:15 AM
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Well, I would like to get one unit at $1800 + shipping. Where to send my bitcoins?  Grin

Seriously, will there be a real group buy?

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October 25, 2016, 01:40:35 PM
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Well, I would like to get one unit at $1800 + shipping. Where to send my bitcoins?  Grin

Seriously, will there be a real group buy?

I suspect that vendors are going to start offering these shortly as 1 ea purchases, and probably offer a better warranty.  I would hold on for a short while as Inno starts to ship these in volume.

I started this thread as a pre-order group buy.  If someone here wants to lead a group buy now please feel free to coordinate the folks here that want to get in on the fun!  I will wait to see how my pre-buy units perform when they get here before I will be adding more.

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October 25, 2016, 07:09:32 PM
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I'd like to try. But my plan is to send it all to one entity to be hosted. And turn the Group Buy into some sort of "shares".

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October 25, 2016, 11:47:23 PM
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Well, I would like to get one unit at $1800 + shipping. Where to send my bitcoins?  Grin

Seriously, will there be a real group buy?

Wow - you are willing to spend $1800 + shipping + PSU for this unit?  How do you intend to make your ROI?

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October 26, 2016, 04:32:02 AM
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I don't need ROI - mining is my hobby.  Cheesy

And there are some possibilities to set it on free electricity.  Wink

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October 26, 2016, 02:13:01 PM
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For those that ordered, what did you pay for shipping charges out of curiosity?


Mine came out to just under $70 per unit to Canada. $68.67 to be exact.

How long did it take to get your tracking info after your paid, and also, once you got your tracking/shipping info, how long did it take to arrive?
I paid last Thursday, and they received it within a day.  Miners ended up shipping on Tuesday of this week and are due to arrive on Thursday. So a week from when I wired the shipping fee to when the miners should be received.

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October 26, 2016, 06:01:00 PM
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I don't need ROI - mining is my hobby.  Cheesy

And there are some possibilities to set it on free electricity.  Wink

I agree with you there -- if it wasn't so noisy then I could put several of these around on some "free electricity" outlets.

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October 26, 2016, 10:09:26 PM
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Well, I would like to get one unit at $1800 + shipping. Where to send my bitcoins?  Grin

Seriously, will there be a real group buy?

Wow - you are willing to spend $1800 + shipping + PSU for this unit?  How do you intend to make your ROI?


 As opposed to the original Titan pricing at $9995 (IIRC), and USED ones going for $2000 ballpark with NO warrenttee?

 DO keep in mind that a good power supply will last for a VERY long time, and can almost definitely be recycled to another usage when the miner becomes unprofitable or dies.




 For reference - I paid $800 (appx) for my 110Mh/s A2 units back in November - and they've ALREADY paid for themselves (despite semi-high electric rate usage before I moved in June/July).
 My A2 units are STILL PROFITABLE as well - I just don't have enough power available where I am at now to run them all.

 I don't see the A4 taking forever to achieve ROI, though I do figure the increase in network hashrate might kick their ROI timeframe into the "ballpark a year" range.



 In theory, you could run each "blade" of an A4 from a seperate power supply - just don't try to use 2 different power supplies on the same blade - and it should work fine.
 Optimally, though, a big enough PS to run the whole unit form one supply would be best.

 Given the STATED "at the wall" consumption mentioned earlier in the thread by the guy that already recieved his unit, my favorite Seasonic X1250 or the widely-used EVGA 1300 G2 power supplies should run an A4 unit VERY comfortably - my 110 Mh/s A2 units consume 1240-1260 watts "at the wall" for the ones that have X1250 transplants and have been running rock-solid for months now.


 Keep in mind that the rating on a power supply is it's rating for OUTPUT, not how much it is limited to on input from your AC source. Given a typical 90% or so conversion efficiency on a gold-rated PS, you have at least an extra 10% margin to work with when looking at "at the wall" figures vs the rating of the PS itself.





 The days of "2-3 months to achieve ROI" may have been gone in cryptomining for years, but it can STILL be a very good and high-return investment if you do it wisely - and have low electric cost.

 1 Year for ROI is NOT unreasonable now, since the ASIC "state of the art" has now caught up with overall semiconductor "state of the art" and we can anticipate product cycles moving to MULTI YEARS apart instead of well UNDER a year per generation (for Bitcoin which has more competition, Scrypt cycles have been a lot slower due to the much smaller market for Scrypt miners).




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October 27, 2016, 01:19:39 AM
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Thanks for help! Shocked

All this whining about ROI with mining while the sensible folks who know a new business aims to make it's money back after 3 years...  an investment anywhere yielding 5% is 20 years for ROI...

but plug and play autoworkers with a ROI under a year, the horror!
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October 27, 2016, 02:00:45 AM
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Who's interested in a hosted group buy? Instead of $1800 per unit, we chop it up into $250 chunks, or about 0.35 BTC per "share" or something like that. I was going to do that for another miner (S9) but the prices and perceived (or actual) ROI was ... too "3 year traditional".

To be hosted in a really cold place with low electricity prices. I'll be point for this and give you your share of mining income after expenses every month, exchanged to BTC.

I'm not interested in handling too many individuals (people) so a maximum of 50~70 ? If the average contribution is a bitcoin each (some less, some more), we can have maybe 20 units for the whole group.

Of course, everyone knows how mining is, maybe we make ROI in 6 months, maybe sooner, maybe later.

If there is significant interest, I'll start a new thread.

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October 27, 2016, 05:47:16 AM
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Alright guys, so I caved and purchased one from Aliexpress for $2,508.00/shipped. It should be here within 7 business days. Trouble is, I have never dealt with any units that utilize the raspberry pi so if you guys would be so kind to guide me I would appreciate the shit out of you. Also have 2 x Antminer S9's coming in as well. Very exciting.
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October 27, 2016, 10:41:52 AM
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Alright guys, so I caved and purchased one from Aliexpress for $2,508.00/shipped. It should be here within 7 business days. Trouble is, I have never dealt with any units that utilize the raspberry pi so if you guys would be so kind to guide me I would appreciate the shit out of you. Also have 2 x Antminer S9's coming in as well. Very exciting.

Here You got tutorial:

http://eastshoretrade.blogspot.com/2014/09/tutorial-setting-up110mh-scrypt-asic.html

And one of the best litecoin mining pool i use is litecoinpool.org
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October 27, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
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So is anyone actually going to start a groupbuy?

I'm interested in getting one of these.

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October 27, 2016, 06:24:35 PM
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Has the preorder group buy received their miners?

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October 27, 2016, 08:23:47 PM
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Has the preorder group buy received their miners?

There were a bunch of different people who bought in the pre-order on their own due to the size of the order but I don't know who has received miners yet. 

I know the group buy that we coordinated our miners are arriving at our escrow today.
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October 27, 2016, 08:26:46 PM
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Has the preorder group buy received their miners?

There were a bunch of different people who bought in the pre-order on their own due to the size of the order but I don't know who has received miners yet. 

I know the group buy that we coordinated our miners are arriving at our escrow today.
I ordered seperate and my miners got to Canada today. I just didn't know what the status was on the 70 some that were going to the escrow. Thanks!

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October 27, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
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My 5-miners arrived today. Once I get them unboxed ill post more details.
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October 28, 2016, 01:42:04 AM
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Ok, running into problems...
Cant find power jack on the PI.
I have the cubes plugged in, and the fans are running, but I have no way to get to the PI or power it on.
The default IP address is not rouetable on my network. I need to take the PI into my office to try and rig-up a separate network so I can get connected, but to do that I need to power on the PI and I cant find the power connector... Frustrated...
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