Do you believe in god?

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There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture

What about the big bang theory?

If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?

Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.

LOL! You are so funny.

Where did Eve come from? She was made from a rib that was taken from Adam's body. Incest is nothing. You simply avoid looking at perfection and near perfection because you are so corrupt.

Incest didn't become wrong until after the Great Flood of Noah's day. The reason for making it "illegal" was the failure, the devolution, of the human race into something that barely approximated the perfection of pre-flood times.

But you, all you want to do is continue into deeper depravity. That's why you try to continually make God and the Bible out to be bad. Well, go ahead. Become more depraved. It will bring about your demise, and nobody will miss you.

Oh come now Chuckles, you are calling me depraved and you are defending the incestuous relationships of your religion.

I know, maybe you don't want to believe the wrong doings of your religion, or the atrocious nature of your religion. Either that, or you actually are that depraved!

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[Edraket31]

For those who doesn't believe in God just respect the person who believes it and I am one of those person who 100 % believes in God and His righteousness. Yes, not all my prayers were answered but still God helps me to be a strong person without Him I am so lost and not happy now living with my family.

[The_prodigy]

For those who doesn't believe in God just respect the person who believes it and I am one of those person who 100 % believes in God and His righteousness. Yes, not all my prayers were answered but still God helps me to be a strong person without Him I am so lost and not happy now living with my family.

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

That's true he just had faith on god i believed in god but don't blame him if you suffering too much remember people always wanted the price but no one willing to pay the price. if blame him by your mistake then much better if you don't ask him for something.

[hyudien]

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

If you have that think, i'll ask some question for you.

• Can you explain how human created before nothing anything in the world?
• If you have same mind with Darwin's theory, Are you want if your ancestors called monkey, and you are exactly monkey like your ancestors?
• And how about some people believe in god if nothing someone bring religion before?

So, if you can explain all of that i'll believe on you.

[BADecker]

There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture

What about the big bang theory?

If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?

Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.

LOL! You are so funny.

Where did Eve come from? She was made from a rib that was taken from Adam's body. Incest is nothing. You simply avoid looking at perfection and near perfection because you are so corrupt.

Incest didn't become wrong until after the Great Flood of Noah's day. The reason for making it "illegal" was the failure, the devolution, of the human race into something that barely approximated the perfection of pre-flood times.

But you, all you want to do is continue into deeper depravity. That's why you try to continually make God and the Bible out to be bad. Well, go ahead. Become more depraved. It will bring about your demise, and nobody will miss you.

Oh come now Chuckles, you are calling me depraved and you are defending the incestuous relationships of your religion.

I know, maybe you don't want to believe the wrong doings of your religion, or the atrocious nature of your religion. Either that, or you actually are that depraved!

Well, you accept evolution as truth, don't you? There is way more incestuous "cross breeding" in evolution than there could ever imaginably be in creation.

You can't seem to get it into your understanding that incest was not wrong when things were not in the corrupt state that they are in now. Devolution is the corruption that has made incest a bad thing.

The major cause of devolution is, not accepting the fact that God exists, but if one accepts His existence, not believing what He says. So you are promoting corruption and devolution in your thinking. As long as you keep on promoting corruption, there will never be enough regaining of perfection to make incest an acceptable thing.

[dippididodaday]

For those who doesn't believe in God just respect the person who believes it and I am one of those person who 100 % believes in God and His righteousness. Yes, not all my prayers were answered but still God helps me to be a strong person without Him I am so lost and not happy now living with my family.

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

Yes, af_newbie, your'e right. All religious-related stuff are mind games. And the younger you are when the indoctrination begins, the stronger the hold religion will have on your ability to reason according to reasonable logic. Religion is the all-time champion reason castrator.

[BADecker]

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

If you have that think, i'll ask some question for you.

• Can you explain how human created before nothing anything in the world?
• If you have same mind with Darwin's theory, Are you want if your ancestors called monkey, and you are exactly monkey like your ancestors?
• And how about some people believe in god if nothing someone bring religion before?

So, if you can explain all of that i'll believe on you.

1. Humans are a product of evolution from simpler life forms.  The physical evidence is OVERWHELMING.
Universe was most likely created out of nothing.  Probably a product of some sort of singularity in other universes and we are the side effect of some other
process.  Just like Hawking radiation has a corresponding particles that enter the black holes and exist on the inside but not on the outside, our Big Bang is a
result of some other process elsewhere.  The latest theory is that our universe is sort of a black hole and we are holographic projections of the information on the event horizon.  Our universe is probably seen as some sort of object (black hole or whatever the observers in that observing universe call it) in some other universe.  The bottom line is there are many unknowns, questions to be answered.

2. We are all hairless apes.  There is no 'if/maybe' about this.  

3. People believe in God because most people need answers to feel safe.  Others investigate and observe to discover the reality and try to explain the unknowns.

The proof for God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Evolution, by its own admission - Theory of Evolution - is an unknown, scientifically.

People believe in evolution because most people need answers to feel safe.  Others investigate and observe to discover the reality of the existence of God, and try to believe Him when He explains the unknowns.

[stats]

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

If you have that think, i'll ask some question for you.

• Can you explain how human created before nothing anything in the world?
• If you have same mind with Darwin's theory, Are you want if your ancestors called monkey, and you are exactly monkey like your ancestors?
• And how about some people believe in god if nothing someone bring religion before?

So, if you can explain all of that i'll believe on you.

1. Humans are a product of evolution from simpler life forms.  The physical evidence is OVERWHELMING.
Universe was most likely created out of nothing.  Probably a product of some sort of singularity in other universes and we are the side effect of some other
process.  Just like Hawking radiation has a corresponding particles that enter the black holes and exist on the inside but not on the outside, our Big Bang is a
result of some other process elsewhere.  The latest theory is that our universe is sort of a black hole and we are holographic projections of the information on the event horizon.  Our universe is probably seen as some sort of object (black hole or whatever the observers in that observing universe call it) in some other universe.  The bottom line is there are many unknowns, questions to be answered.

2. We are all hairless apes.  There is no 'if/maybe' about this.  

3. People believe in God because most people need answers to feel safe.  Others investigate and observe to discover the reality and try to explain the unknowns.

The proof for God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Evolution, by its own admission - Theory of Evolution - is an unknown, scientifically.

People believe in evolution because most people need answers to feel safe.  Others investigate and observe to discover the reality of the existence of God, and try to believe Him when He explains the unknowns.

BADecker.... because you wrote this nonsense it qualify's as an immediate course of refutable evidence.

Try something different.

[stats]

There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture

What about the big bang theory?

If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?

Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.

LOL! You are so funny.

Where did Eve come from? She was made from a rib that was taken from Adam's body. Incest is nothing. You simply avoid looking at perfection and near perfection because you are so corrupt.

Incest didn't become wrong until after the Great Flood of Noah's day. The reason for making it "illegal" was the failure, the devolution, of the human race into something that barely approximated the perfection of pre-flood times.

But you, all you want to do is continue into deeper depravity. That's why you try to continually make God and the Bible out to be bad. Well, go ahead. Become more depraved. It will bring about your demise, and nobody will miss you.

Oh come now Chuckles, you are calling me depraved and you are defending the incestuous relationships of your religion.

I know, maybe you don't want to believe the wrong doings of your religion, or the atrocious nature of your religion. Either that, or you actually are that depraved!

Well, you accept evolution as truth, don't you? There is way more incestuous "cross breeding" in evolution than there could ever imaginably be in creation.

You can't seem to get it into your understanding that incest was not wrong when things were not in the corrupt state that they are in now. Devolution is the corruption that has made incest a bad thing.

The major cause of devolution is, not accepting the fact that God exists, but if one accepts His existence, not believing what He says. So you are promoting corruption and devolution in your thinking. As long as you keep on promoting corruption, there will never be enough regaining of perfection to make incest an acceptable thing.

That is only your belief of time and history.

Remember, this is your account of history according to your bible.

Show me the scientific proof that incest was appropriate.

You are the one who is justifying it now!

That my friend, is making you out to be a sicko!

[AjithBtc]

There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture

What about the big bang theory?

If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?

Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.

LOL! You are so funny.

Where did Eve come from? She was made from a rib that was taken from Adam's body. Incest is nothing. You simply avoid looking at perfection and near perfection because you are so corrupt.

Incest didn't become wrong until after the Great Flood of Noah's day. The reason for making it "illegal" was the failure, the devolution, of the human race into something that barely approximated the perfection of pre-flood times.

But you, all you want to do is continue into deeper depravity. That's why you try to continually make God and the Bible out to be bad. Well, go ahead. Become more depraved. It will bring about your demise, and nobody will miss you.

Oh come now Chuckles, you are calling me depraved and you are defending the incestuous relationships of your religion.

I know, maybe you don't want to believe the wrong doings of your religion, or the atrocious nature of your religion. Either that, or you actually are that depraved!

Well, you accept evolution as truth, don't you? There is way more incestuous "cross breeding" in evolution than there could ever imaginably be in creation.

You can't seem to get it into your understanding that incest was not wrong when things were not in the corrupt state that they are in now. Devolution is the corruption that has made incest a bad thing.

The major cause of devolution is, not accepting the fact that God exists, but if one accepts His existence, not believing what He says. So you are promoting corruption and devolution in your thinking. As long as you keep on promoting corruption, there will never be enough regaining of perfection to make incest an acceptable thing.

That is only your belief of time and history.

Remember, this is your account of history according to your bible.

Show me the scientific proof that incest was appropriate.

You are the one who is justifying it now!

That my friend, is making you out to be a sicko!

I believe in God, at the same I don't agree with all the statements. Those were put forth based upon the situation and relations during those days. The same is not possible for the present day scenario as described by the above mate.

[Seccerius]

For those who doesn't believe in God just respect the person who believes it and I am one of those person who 100 % believes in God and His righteousness. Yes, not all my prayers were answered but still God helps me to be a strong person without Him I am so lost and not happy now living with my family.

Again, it is not God doing the heavy lifting. It is you.

Your mind is playing a trick on you.

That's true he just had faith on god i believed in god but don't blame him if you suffering too much remember people always wanted the price but no one willing to pay the price. if blame him by your mistake then much better if you don't ask him for something.

Stories about God written as lotteries. If something is good it's because of God and if something bad God is not to blame. It seems to me that only ignorant people can believe such nonsense.

[t2yax]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

Yes I do believe in God, our creator. He created many miracles in our lives. I know He already done something in your life that thinking that it will never happen but because of Him it happened. Because on Him nothing is impossible.

[LonelyPrince]

I was surprised by the result of the voting. I supposed mainly smart people using Bitcoin

[bitbunnni]

I was surprised by the result of the voting. I supposed mainly smart people using Bitcoin

I also can not understand why such a result! For me it's a shock! I believed that nowadays people are more educated. I think that the consequence of this fooling people is not just faith in God but also the phenomenon of Trump

[Edraket31]

I was surprised by the result of the voting. I supposed mainly smart people using Bitcoin

I also can not understand why such a result! For me it's a shock! I believed that nowadays people are more educated. I think that the consequence of this fooling people is not just faith in God but also the phenomenon of Trump

It is really heart breaking whenever I heard or see people that don't believe in God, well, they already have everything that they don't need to seek God because they can buy everything they want and they were so blind to see the goodness of God that has given for them. We are lucky we are still alive and that is one best reason we should thank for.

[BADecker]

There is no creation without a mastermind or someone with the bigger picture

What about the big bang theory?

If the Bible is a book of facts, then let us look at these "facts".

As your bible states:
"God creates Adam and Eve"
Adam and Eve have Children
These children grow into adults and have their own children.

As you need both male and female to produce children.... Adam and Eve's family commit incest.

I always thought that their children were Cain and Abel. How did they reproduce?

Adam and Eve had many children. Eve probably lived 400 to 600 years or more. Adam lived well over 900 years. At one child a year, that was 400 or 500 for Eve. If Adam took other wives, that may have been many more.

When you consider that these children might have started having children at age 20 - they were almost as healthy as Adam and Eve - look at how fast the world could fill up in just a couple hundred years.

So Adam may have had many wives.... if Adam and Eve were the original 2... then they had to have had children which Adam could then take for wives.... 

So you admit the story of Adam and Eve is about incest.

Thanks BADecker for admitting religion and the bible is corrupt.

LOL! You are so funny.

Where did Eve come from? She was made from a rib that was taken from Adam's body. Incest is nothing. You simply avoid looking at perfection and near perfection because you are so corrupt.

Incest didn't become wrong until after the Great Flood of Noah's day. The reason for making it "illegal" was the failure, the devolution, of the human race into something that barely approximated the perfection of pre-flood times.

But you, all you want to do is continue into deeper depravity. That's why you try to continually make God and the Bible out to be bad. Well, go ahead. Become more depraved. It will bring about your demise, and nobody will miss you.

Oh come now Chuckles, you are calling me depraved and you are defending the incestuous relationships of your religion.

I know, maybe you don't want to believe the wrong doings of your religion, or the atrocious nature of your religion. Either that, or you actually are that depraved!

Well, you accept evolution as truth, don't you? There is way more incestuous "cross breeding" in evolution than there could ever imaginably be in creation.

You can't seem to get it into your understanding that incest was not wrong when things were not in the corrupt state that they are in now. Devolution is the corruption that has made incest a bad thing.

The major cause of devolution is, not accepting the fact that God exists, but if one accepts His existence, not believing what He says. So you are promoting corruption and devolution in your thinking. As long as you keep on promoting corruption, there will never be enough regaining of perfection to make incest an acceptable thing.

That is only your belief of time and history.

Remember, this is your account of history according to your bible.

Show me the scientific proof that incest was appropriate.

You are the one who is justifying it now!

That my friend, is making you out to be a sicko!

It is easy to understand how someone can be unsure of the processes whereby life and the universe came into existence. But, do you accept evolution or not? You don't seem to accept creation. How do you think life came about?

The reason I ask is, because if you are an evolution believer, then you accept incest way more than any creation believer could ever think of doing.

What does incest have to do with evolution? Just this. Probability math suggests that evolution is impossible. So, to overcome the probability math, life would have to be trying every way possible to exist, grow and advance. This would not only include incest of all sorts, but also slimy "sex with rocks" and whatever else happened to be around, in all the possible ways it could have been done.

It's about time you stepped away from evolution, and stepped up to a perfect creation gone sour by the will and action of mankind. This way you will be stepping out of the mass incest of evolution, and the lies that you tell when you say you think incest is bad. After all, your belief in evolution shows that you love incest way more than anyone would if he loved the imperfect route man has followed following creation.

[BADecker]

I was surprised by the result of the voting. I supposed mainly smart people using Bitcoin

I also can not understand why such a result! For me it's a shock! I believed that nowadays people are more educated. I think that the consequence of this fooling people is not just faith in God but also the phenomenon of Trump

This vote only shows what people in this forum think. And this forum is very liberal... meaning that there is a greater concentration of atheist types than there is in general society. So, think what it must be like out there in society.

What has happened to the atheist types is this. First, they didn't want God for one reason or another. Then someone in science came along and explained to them how "stuff" might have come into being without God. They liked this explanation so much that they stopped there, and wouldn't look further. They never saw how God was proven to exist so firmly that all the explanations to the opposite were essentially destroyed.

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The atheist types barely looked at the proof when they did. And if a few studied it, they threw it out, not because they found it to be wrong, but because it messed with their atheism RELIGION.

It's kind of amazing to me that people would rather walk around believing the science fiction that God doesn't exist, over factual science that proves He DOES exist.

[Buffer Overflow]

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:

<debunked pseudoscience proof stuff>......

Then along came people that know what they are talking about and blew it out of the water.

"The Joint" was the best I think. He absolutely smashed it to pieces and all you could do was put your fingers in your ears and go "la la la".
And the funniest thing of all............      "The Joint" is a theist. 

[BADecker]

I was surprised by the result of the voting. I supposed mainly smart people using Bitcoin

I also can not understand why such a result! For me it's a shock! I believed that nowadays people are more educated. I think that the consequence of this fooling people is not just faith in God but also the phenomenon of Trump

This vote only shows what people in this forum think. And this forum is very liberal... meaning that there is a greater concentration of atheist types than there is in general society. So, think what it must be like out there in society.

What has happened to the atheist types is this. First, they didn't want God for one reason or another. Then someone in science came along and explained to them how "stuff" might have come into being without God. They liked this explanation so much that they stopped there, and wouldn't look further. They never saw how God was proven to exist so firmly that all the explanations to the opposite were essentially destroyed.

Then I came along in this forum and showed the proof that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The atheist types barely looked at the proof when they did. And if a few studied it, they threw it out, not because they found it to be wrong, but because it messed with their atheism RELIGION.

It's kind of amazing to me that people would rather walk around believing the science fiction that God doesn't exist, over factual science that proves He DOES exist.

No they don't.  Entropy of the universe might be increasing, but here on Earth it is actually decreasing.
Earth is not an isolated system.  We get the energy input from the Sun, you little twit.  

The rest of your 'proof'  is just nonsense.

Well of course entropy isn't always evident. New Hawaiian islands are being formed as the tectonic plates shift while others are eroding away.

The interesting thing is that the mountains, though they are being replaced by other mountains, are always eroding away. Entropy goes on and on, right under our noses.

My proof being nonsense is kinda like evolution. There are all these "things" in the world that some folks have said prove evolution. Yet these same things explain how evolution is impossible, when looked at and explained from different standpoints.

Don't rebut me. Rebut the science.

[iamnotback]

Thank God there is now a BurgerKing in Davao! Now that is hard proof.

As for philosophical wisdom, I liked Cat Stevens in my youth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERildSsWxM

It's not time to make a change
Just relax, take it easy
You're still young, that's your fault
There's so much you have to know
Find a girl, settle down
If you want you can marry
Look at me, I am old, but I'm happy

I was once like you are now
And I know that it's not easy
To be calm when you've found
Something going on
But take your time, think a lot
Think of everything you've got
For you will still be here tomorrow
But your dreams may not

How can I try to explain?
When I do he turns away again
It's always been the same, same old story
From the moment I could talk
I was ordered to listen
Now there's a way
And I know that I have to go away
I know I have to go