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January 31, 2012, 04:30:26 PM
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(The way things have been going here in the states, though, people will be complaining plenty about INflation in the near future)!
the current bitcoin-system ends up at 21 million BTCs in the year 2033 as predicted, so i don't think that bitcoins as we know now are gonna be a real option to leave the dollar.

This is not accurate information.  Try not to speak with authority on the matter until you actually have some, please.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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January 31, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
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Hello,

I am a US economist with bachelors degrees in Economics and Psychology, a Master's degree in Operations Research/Statistics, with an MBA finishing up this Spring.

Glad to have you.

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I have been watching this project for some time, and I think that I can help BitCoin overcome its current and future challenges. A currency with the properties of BTC presents many excellent opportunities for new businesses, macroeconomic insights, tracing the public's adoption of a new idea, etc.

Hoping to get out of the newbies box ASAP so I can do something a little more technical...getting people around here to stop complaining about "deflation" (with a funny video or graphic or something) would be quite an accomplishment (alas, the decentralized BTC relies too much on "network externalities" for us to abandon the public education/marketing campaign any time soon).


I've had some concerns about those externalities, but they are generally minor and no one has been able to come up with a modification that doesn't either break user anonimity, create a potential network attack vector or establish a network version of a "central bank" node.  All three of which simply undermines the system.  So in the end, I have just resolved to trust that those externalites are insignificant compared to Bitcoin's other advantages.

Good luck trying to break the general view on economics, I've been trying to do exactly that for years now.  And you are certainly not the first trained economist in the mix here.


"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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January 31, 2012, 07:07:31 PM
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hey guys I am loki and I hope bitcoins will buy me a city block someday.
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January 31, 2012, 08:12:23 PM
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Im cool

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January 31, 2012, 09:28:55 PM
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This is not accurate information.  Try not to speak with authority on the matter until you actually have some, please.
i do not believe that i'm talking with authority on any matters in the newbie's section  Roll Eyes i didn't want to be accurate within a sentence, i just wanted to express my thoughts about the official data on the possible amount of "real" bitcoins with the current software in a short term.
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January 31, 2012, 10:28:08 PM
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This is not accurate information.  Try not to speak with authority on the matter until you actually have some, please.
i do not believe that i'm talking with authority on any matters in the newbie's section  Roll Eyes i didn't want to be accurate within a sentence, i just wanted to express my thoughts about the official data on the possible amount of "real" bitcoins with the current software in a short term.

Well, at least I know that you're not a bot.

While the 21 million bitcoin limit is correct, it's a limit in the math sense of the word.  The total bitcoins issued will ever approach, but never reach, 21 million.  The 2030 date is misinformation that we have been trying to combat for some time.  However, each bitcoin is divisible to the eighth decimal place (in a sense, because there isn't actually an artifact that could be called a bitcoin, not even a digital one) at the present time.  So if the integer that holds the value is never increased beyond the current 64 bit (unlikley) the block reward will slip below the eighth decimal place around 2130, not 2030.

The incredible divisibilty of bitcoin insures that the 21 million bitcoin limit is irrelevent.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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January 31, 2012, 11:30:42 PM
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Hello. Once again another obstacle to acquire bit coin. If you ever wonder why there isn't a wider use rate it's because the exchanges & forums make it near impossible as a newbie to get anything done in a timely matter.

I have used bc for about 6 months now and still, as example here today can't believe how unnecessarily hard this whole process is.
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February 01, 2012, 12:17:44 AM
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Hello. Once again another obstacle to acquire bit coin. If you ever wonder why there isn't a wider use rate it's because the exchanges & forums make it near impossible as a newbie to get anything done in a timely matter.

I have used bc for about 6 months now and still, as example here today can't believe how unnecessarily hard this whole process is.

How hard is to post five times and read the forums for a while? just so you know what's going on in the forum and learn to use it properly.

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February 01, 2012, 12:19:45 AM
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Hello. Once again another obstacle to acquire bit coin. If you ever wonder why there isn't a wider use rate it's because the exchanges & forums make it near impossible as a newbie to get anything done in a timely matter.

I have used bc for about 6 months now and still, as example here today can't believe how unnecessarily hard this whole process is.

I was using the Internet in 1987 and GNU/Linux in 1994.  Both are examples of emerging tech with a huge future potential but minimal network effects at the time.  Today, if you aren't using the Internet, either directly or indirectly, you're a monk or over 80; and if you don't have a linux kernel running on some kind of hardware that you own, (such as your generic DVR) you're either a monk or a hardcore Apple devotee, and I'm not sure about the latter.  Bitcoin is less than three years old, expect that it's going to be difficult for a while yet.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 01, 2012, 12:39:13 AM
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No it's not a matter of difficulty but rather assuming that it takes multiple hours & posts to read this forum to understand it's culture. I just spent a little over an hour reading, and probably read 11-12 pages deep in most of the bit coin related areas.  I didn't read them all and some threads I scanned but really, how deep is this forum?

I'm just looking to exchange some money not spend hours of my life to accomplish what should be a half hour? Max.  Sorry to rant but this is not the first forum I have ever been to, and is by far the most restrictive to newbies.
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February 01, 2012, 01:20:21 AM
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No it's not a matter of difficulty but rather assuming that it takes multiple hours & posts to read this forum to understand it's culture. I just spent a little over an hour reading, and probably read 11-12 pages deep in most of the bit coin related areas.  I didn't read them all and some threads I scanned but really, how deep is this forum?

I'm just looking to exchange some money not spend hours of my life to accomplish what should be a half hour? Max.  Sorry to rant but this is not the first forum I have ever been to, and is by far the most restrictive to newbies.

Once the tech matures, very few of bitcoin users will care about this forum or any like it.  The goal of a currency is to be used by pretty much everyone in some capacity, the vast majority of whom don't care about the details.  And this forum runs pretty deep.  The half hour rule will come when the tech matures, and will likely come faster than that.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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February 01, 2012, 01:31:06 AM
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Hello friends my self martin abbi from atlanta/georgia  Smiley
but hi, martin from atlanta, hi to the asymmetricinformation und thanks to all theheromembers .)

that's me, your welcome.  Smiley

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February 01, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
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Just getting started with bitcoins and interested in mining pools. If anyone can and will help me with questions I have that would be great!


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February 01, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
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I am new and wanna be part of this great forum.

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February 01, 2012, 07:47:01 PM
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i'm the joker
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February 01, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
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Hey all ya fellow coinatards. Just another newbie gettin my coin on. 


















If any of you old heads would like to give up some hard earned coin to a newbster it might as well be me. Catch ya on the flip

1FxdjXbsg6THWYHScGLECqcKBCiBbVS4f9 thanks. Talk to y`all soon.
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February 01, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
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I used to have so many friends, I never saw anyone twice.
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February 01, 2012, 11:32:54 PM
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My favorite sport is golf... because golf is walking through a park, with a purpose.
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February 02, 2012, 12:00:14 AM
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I am beginer miner with up to 335Mhs on HD 6870 @1000
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February 02, 2012, 12:31:31 AM
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so who does anyone recommend I go to for assistance with helping with mining pools? I have questions about the mining generator....but the forums on the specific sites don't answer the questions I have
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