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Author Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform  (Read 1253936 times)
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September 15, 2016, 11:07:52 AM
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I see this is a big project but why invest here? I am afraid there will be big dump in price.

Anyway i will try with 1 btc ..How much ICONOMI i will get for 1btc?

Not sure will those bounty cheaters dump hard when iconomi gets listed on exchanges.
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September 15, 2016, 11:15:20 AM
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I see this is a big project but why invest here? I am afraid there will be big dump in price.

Anyway i will try with 1 btc ..How much ICONOMI i will get for 1btc?

It depends on the final numbers currently each token is worth around 0.058$

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September 15, 2016, 11:19:55 AM
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Do you quick skim the post quality when you count post? Or only click the profit to see the weekly stat? I recommend you just quick skim the posts, you will find many spammers.  Huh  What a world now, people make money by cheating. God will blame them.

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September 15, 2016, 11:33:09 AM
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I see this is a big project but why invest here? I am afraid there will be big dump in price.

Anyway i will try with 1 btc ..How much ICONOMI i will get for 1btc?

It depends on the final numbers currently each token is worth around 0.058$

85 mil may worth of 0.058$ from Crowdsale but don't forget 2 mil ICN from bounties campaign.
When ICN open for trading I predict who get ICN for free will dump their coins and market price will below 0.058$ for sure.
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September 15, 2016, 11:34:57 AM
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So ICONOMI gives out "company shares with dividends" and then will set up several funds, probably containing several million $ from non crypto investors?
Without any regulation or licences? I can't imagine that's legal in the EU.

If it would be just a coin it would be easy - but this sounds like a call for disaster.
I am sure you guys have the best intentions and are legit but I think it could be legally a nightmare very very soon.
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September 15, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
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iconomi project is doing good , not sure why people creating so many twitter accounts for bounty and cheating iconomi , best is to do in legit way only. iconomi is always a great porject.
Are you really surprised? ICONOMI is famous ICO at this point so creating twitter accounts is nothing when you can earn money by cheating.
Plus you have to remember that ICO, existing coins, and cryptocurrency in general is grey area of law.
So these scammers can run wild and you can't do anything about it as it is impossible to enforce any legal actions against them.
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September 15, 2016, 11:44:10 AM
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I see this is a big project but why invest here? I am afraid there will be big dump in price.

Anyway i will try with 1 btc ..How much ICONOMI i will get for 1btc?

Not sure will those bounty cheaters dump hard when iconomi gets listed on exchanges.

of course.. these "bounty hunters" will never hold the token as they are not investors who are willing to wait for a return on their investment. so they will dump the bounty tokens even for single satoshi.
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September 15, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
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I have an important question to developers.

Whether the truth that when calculating bounties also retweets of replies of ICONOMI are considered.

I have found this account, and I think that it can be considered abuse: https://twitter.com/aqrisaqris
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September 15, 2016, 11:48:09 AM
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I can't wait, iconomi will be likely listed on polo. I also invest 10 btc in this project. I am a whale?

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September 15, 2016, 11:48:20 AM
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I have an important question to developers.

Whether the truth that when calculating bounties also retweets of replies of ICONOMI are considered.

I have found this account, and I think that it can be considered abuse: https://twitter.com/aqrisaqris

same as in facebook
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September 15, 2016, 11:51:25 AM
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I can't wait, iconomi will be likely listed on polo. I also invest 10 btc in this project. I am a whale?

why would you be? Just make the basic math - your investment/total funds collected*100 will give you the percentage of shares you have
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September 15, 2016, 11:52:03 AM
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I have an important question to developers.

Whether the truth that when calculating bounties also retweets of replies of ICONOMI are considered.

I have found this account, and I think that it can be considered abuse: https://twitter.com/aqrisaqris

same as in facebook

I find this one, must be a big cheater, it is a new account, he didn't tweet anything before ico.

https://twitter.com/allrightprimo

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September 15, 2016, 11:54:33 AM
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So ICONOMI gives out "company shares with dividends" and then will set up several funds, probably containing several million $ from non crypto investors?
Without any regulation or licences? I can't imagine that's legal in the EU.

If it would be just a coin it would be easy - but this sounds like a call for disaster.
I am sure you guys have the best intentions and are legit but I think it could be legally a nightmare very very soon.


We are approaching regulators already. As communicated before, work regarding the project already began. Yesterday we had some discussion with one of big crypto players that got fully regulated in EU as well to get full picture of what it takes.

However, what we are doing is not illegal. It is just not defined yet. But will be sooner or later. Most of crypto exchanges are still not regulated either.
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September 15, 2016, 11:56:14 AM
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So ICONOMI gives out "company shares with dividends" and then will set up several funds, probably containing several million $ from non crypto investors?
Without any regulation or licences? I can't imagine that's legal in the EU.

If it would be just a coin it would be easy - but this sounds like a call for disaster.
I am sure you guys have the best intentions and are legit but I think it could be legally a nightmare very very soon.


Not "company shares with dividends". Those are platform shares through an Ethereum smart contract, paying dividends in ETH.
Technically, there are no legal rules yet as far as I know. That's why you can read everywhere that cryptos are the effin far west.

As for the tax problem of dividends, I guess it depends on the fiscal rules of each country.
In France for example, cryptocoins are not yet recognized as -real- assets, taxwise. That's a growing thing govts are gradually going to address, but for now they don't understand sh#t about crypto.

For example, if you make x 2 on bitcoin, French law recognizes it as an income only when/if you sell your XBT for FIAT, and cash in those FIAT on your bank account.
That's when profit is realized in their eyes.
So if I cash in so called "dividends" in ETH, there's no way my govt will know. Let alone worry me with any dividend taxation / stock holder stuff.
BTW, if we get those debit cards that allow to withdraw actual FIAT cash with whichever crypto assets we have online, that's indeed a tax evasion dream coming true.

Sauce : I called my tax office last year to know if I had to declare anything on my crypto earnings.
The outcome was, considering most of it was still in XBT, I was not subject to any capital gain tax.

TL;DR : We're pionnering here. Let's be patient and see what happens.
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September 15, 2016, 12:03:50 PM
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superb  Shocked

ICO can already 3100BTC
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September 15, 2016, 12:08:53 PM
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I see this is a big project but why invest here? I am afraid there will be big dump in price.

Anyway i will try with 1 btc ..How much ICONOMI i will get for 1btc?

It depends on the final numbers currently each token is worth around 0.058$

85 mil may worth of 0.058$ from Crowdsale but don't forget 2 mil ICN from bounties campaign.
When ICN open for trading I predict who get ICN for free will dump their coins and market price will below 0.058$ for sure.


There are 100 mil tokens issued on whichever USD amount ICO goes too.

Therefore, at this time we're at USD 0.04891 / ICN.
Just because only 85 mil are shared with investors, doesn't mean the coins in devs' hands aren't worth anything.
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September 15, 2016, 12:10:38 PM
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Hey guys I have got $10 walmart virtual gift card can I buy ico shares with it?
By the time I can have access to my tokens you could spend it already.
However after offering the same thing to one of the team members, it was obvious when you have millions of dollars already and each team member at least receives hundreds of thousands as their share why bother with my lame $10 right?
hehe I have got my funds managed.
However I was thinking to skip the hassle of fiat depositing and assume the BTC equivalent added to my lame 0.01BTC I invested on Iconomi.
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September 15, 2016, 12:13:56 PM
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TL;DR : We're pionnering here. Let's be patient and see what happens.

Only just when you go to fiat you can gain profit rise on exchange is only number nothing guarantee you that you will sell your 1m ETH fo 12$ at once,
most likely price will drop to 1$ Cheesy at end of dumping.

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September 15, 2016, 12:14:57 PM
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I can't wait, iconomi will be likely listed on polo. I also invest 10 btc in this project. I am a whale?

why would you be? Just make the basic math - your investment/total funds collected*100 will give you the percentage of shares you have

Not bad, but compared to the EUR 100K + we saw on the videos ?
You're more like a dolphin. Or maybe a killer whale. Sizewise.

English language is so lame.
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September 15, 2016, 12:22:19 PM
Last edit: September 15, 2016, 12:32:22 PM by Vinz421
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...
TL;DR : We're pionnering here. Let's be patient and see what happens.

Only just when you go to fiat you can gain profit rise on exchange is only number nothing guarantee you that you will sell your 1m ETH fo 12$ at once,
most likely price will drop to 1$ Cheesy at end of dumping.

Agreed. For now. Because cryptos are still volatile AF. Tomorrow maybe FIAT won't be that safe to store value.  Smiley

My point was more about the fact that most govts and tax services are totally overwhelmed by cryptos.

That's why I said that if we get ETH dividends, and withdraw some of it in FIAT cash through an ATM,
most IRS wouldn't be able to understand what the hell happened. For now.
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