[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[LeonardoDaVinci]

I know that guy...



It's Fonzie from Happy Days!!!

Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name

To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc.

We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know...

We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger.

So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time.

Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread.

- Liqui admin

I personally don't have a problem with Liqui... as long as they help promote ICN IOU's to $2 - $5 range  

[MrPresident]

Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name

To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc.

We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know...

We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger.

So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time.

Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread.

- Liqui admin

Oh great, let's at least see your business registration and insurance certificates.

[smokim87]

Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name

To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc.

We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know...

We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger.

So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time.

Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread.

- Liqui admin

Oh great, let's at least see your business registration and insurance certificates.

Give them a hour or so to photoshop that too lol.

[cielo98]

1 ICN=5 USD

may your prediction come true..lol☺️🤑

[Ais08]

1 ICN=5 USD

i am extremly optimistic and am sure ICN price will be 100k satoshi as soon as it hit the exchanges.ICONOMI has got huge potential lets see how devs take care of it as now everything depends on their honesty and hard work

Everyone wants a higher price than 100k to 1 / ICN, see many things that could happen with the price of ICN ..

[LeonardoDaVinci]

Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name

To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc.

We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know...

We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger.

So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time.

Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread.

- Liqui admin

Oh great, let's at least see your business registration and insurance certificates.

Does BTC-e.com have business registration and insurance certificates?

Yet they've been one of the largest Crypto exchanges for years... and still going strong.

Time will tell with Liqui... ICN IOU's are their 1st test

[ShooterXD]

Just turn the discussions back to ICONOMI.

[andron8383]

Just turn the discussions back to ICONOMI.

Ok then when will be trading avaible to test that 5$ per ICN ?

[Ais08]

Just turn the discussions back to ICONOMI.

Ok then when will be trading avaible to test that 5$ per ICN ?

It was very fantastic price for a token ICN, hoping to more than $ 5 ..

[gandame]

1 ICN=5 USD

i am extremly optimistic and am sure ICN price will be 100k satoshi as soon as it hit the exchanges.ICONOMI has got huge potential lets see how devs take care of it as now everything depends on their honesty and hard work

Everyone wants a higher price than 100k to 1 / ICN, see many things that could happen with the price of ICN ..

Yes i think it getting than 100k satoshi because iconomi is have potential but be ready because once exchanger available many dumper on that coins because they want to sell all their bountys. So expect that iconomi are dump but not big only a total of bounty.

[someone111]

OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  (jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

So how can we make sure that IOU ICN is the real iconomi? Can we Make sure that we can get our withdrawals if we would get it? This thing is mostly i want to ask with you since you starting the IOU first and surely many people would get doubts for this announcement but anyways its a good move for your site since you can gather people to try do trades in your site..

We answer already numerous times. Again - we invest customers funds to ICO Iconomi, we provide all transactions id. So it is obvious that these IOU tokens real.

And now according to Jani's post, everyone can move their ICO cabinet balance to Liqui ICO cabinet balance. After we see this happened - we credited your Liqui exchange account with equal amount of ICN. You can sell them and withdraw btc immediately or wait until network will launch and withdraw ICN.

P.S. Please lets discuss this option here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.100, avoiding clutter up this thread.

why don't you share this info?

1. Liqui should show a proof (screenshot) of their FINAL amount of ICN tokens
2. Liqui should show a proof that they have less than that final amount of IOUs reserved in orders

You talk about something you know ... I personally bought and sold it from the beginning Liqui without any problem. I have some coins alí and remove four btc without any problem, so shut up loudmouth.

good for you. It still doesn't prove that you are Liqui shill or that they don't need to provide that information, since the entire concept of IOUs is based on TRUST..
Ans they were extremely chatty around here, but somehow failed to respond to that simple request..
But maybe it is just me.. You are free to donate your BTC anyplace you like

You know someone who has lost their money in Liqui? Yourself to Liqui operated in the platform and lost its btc for fraud? You did an analysis of the platform to defame that liqui is a scam? If you have evidence that it is a scam Liqui his words are the scam so you better shut up and respect a little please.

I never said that people lost their money, but that people MAY (you know the difference, right?). For me it is not legit as long as they don't provide the above proofs. The fact that it has been asked more than once, and still some "happy customers" keep posting here just makes me feel more confident about my posts.
If you are new, small exchange that is looking to make it, there is a way to start, especially when you deal with IOU tokens. Sending out people to write posts here is not the right way to start.
Or perhaps you think that what I asked for is too much to ask from 4 guys new exchange that is selling promises for tokens?

Hi, Daparski. We just do not understand what are you want to figure out. We invest BTC in ICO Iconomi (providing Txid, you saw this post). You can't calculate by yourself final amount of ICN we have? Thats very simple.


Again special for you - our customers investments to ICO Iconomi is cryptographically verified, all info is open for everyone. Instead of make your own research and receive all answers on your questions, you ask again and again simple questions. It is look like usual trolling, sorry. (that why we dont respond to you).

Why would he need to calculate that? You should have full control and awareness of how many ICN you got and should be able to show that, "that is very simple".

In the end, it is you who wants to gain traders trust, telling someone he should start calculating the amount you got and that you refuse to show the asked stuff doesn't make you look trustworthy at all.

Yes. That style of communication this is not trustworthy. Will not use liqui.

[jstern]

I know that guy...



It's Fonzie from Happy Days!!!

Oh wow. That's true. It's the Fonz.

[ShooterXD]

I hope nobody loose money in IOU. But this will happen

[honolulumark]

I know that guy...



It's Fonzie from Happy Days!!!

Oh wow. That's true. It's the Fonz.

Looks like he didn't survive that Shark Jump.

[Saksham]

From the last update of GitHub, I can't sync anymore, the ETH wallet ( Mist and Ethereum wallet) I can't connect to peers ( ports are opened, time is set on time.nist.gov. It's a bit strange.

[LeonardoDaVinci]

12 hrs 26 min to ETH Hard Fork !!!

https://fork.codetract.io/

[Stormspirit]

i think bounty hunters and investors are fully aware of ICN potential i see no reason to dump  on start for some small profits. ill keep my tokens for long terms.

[electronicash]

How much dividends can one recieve with 10k ICN? Anyone knew?

i think bounty hunters and investors are fully aware of ICN potential i see no reason to dump  on start for some small profits. ill keep my tokens for long terms.

No wonder Bounty hunters are selling it for 45k sat each i can't believe they're that valuable this time.
The rest of us could have bought a lot if they just sell it for 25k.

[Toro iskandar]

i think bounty hunters and investors are fully aware of ICN potential i see no reason to dump  on start for some small profits. ill keep my tokens for long terms.

I also think so

the initial price may be 3x ICO 

[Stormspirit]

btc is ready in case some duper decide to sell