[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[Mongwapogi]

Any update Dev about the distribution of the tokens? Today is 18th of October. Anyway ICN to the Moon. Hahaha

Please push ICN to the Bittrex! Like XAUR did

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[jamalaezaz]

I am buying ICN tokens for 22K satoshi each.. my budget is 1BTC.. ICONOMI will be the official escrow.

PM me.

[Compa]

Any update Dev about the distribution of the tokens? Today is 18th of October. Anyway ICN to the Moon. Hahaha

Please push ICN to the Bittrex! Like XAUR did

The Ico tokens will be available for transfer on 23 of october.
keep patient.

[BALIK]

I am buying ICN tokens for 22K satoshi each.. my budget is 1BTC.. ICONOMI will be the official escrow.

PM me.

Wrong section mate you should post that in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636917.0

[electronicash]

Any update Dev about the distribution of the tokens? Today is 18th of October. Anyway ICN to the Moon. Hahaha

Please push ICN to the Bittrex! Like XAUR did

its only not that i know they've added xaur. the price drop to .00014 though. i guess bittrex is letting these coins to be dead in matter of weeks. they started to act like a scam exchange these days.

[hollandvan]

Any update Dev about the distribution of the tokens? Today is 18th of October. Anyway ICN to the Moon. Hahaha

Please push ICN to the Bittrex! Like XAUR did

its only not that i know they've added xaur. the price drop to .00014 though. i guess bittrex is letting these coins to be dead in matter of weeks. they started to act like a scam exchange these days.

In the contrary, they did like scam exchange in 2014-2015, this year they are more transparent, but still some scam ico(eboost, trig, breakout) listed there.

[NorrisK]

So what will happen if we leave the ICN on the iconomi platform? How long will they be able to stay there and will the be able to generate dividends?

Wondering because I don't want to use an ethereum wallet at the moment.

[XbladeX]

So what will happen if we leave the ICN on the iconomi platform? How long will they be able to stay there and will the be able to generate dividends?

Wondering because I don't want to use an ethereum wallet at the moment.

Nothing. Before 1st dividend they will create you eth address and pay you dividend there.
Your ICO acc will be moved to main site that is all.

[ICONOMI]

Hi everyone.

Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.

Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.

We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.

For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.


Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!

[ICONOMI]

OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  (jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

We are not cooperating with anyone in that regard!

Sorry Liqui, but this was just very unprofessional to kind of kidnap our reputation and dump support on me.
I tried to act nice, offer account swapping and escrow in order to stop crybabies flooding this thread, but it turned out to be a bad decision. Only impatient bounty hunters wanted to "sell" their ICNs. However, this is not stopped. Please wait for official launch and sell/buy on exchanges.

[SanFrancisco]

@ICONOMI: Do we get this test ICN's as communicated or not?

[supercops]

Hi everyone.

Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.

Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.

We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.

For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.


Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!

Thanx for the quick update.is there any chance that icn will launch before 25th if everything done with ETH?

[MrPresident]

Oh guys, you are the best. At least you know one Liqui's team member name

To be serious, the main reason to not disclosure personal information - Security. We are handling bitcoin business and we are not fishy as someone post above. Our main job is store customers funds and any personal info give attackers more possibilities - names of co-dounders, names of employees, physical address etc.

We must be prepared to reflect any attack - including social engineering and physical effects. Yes, we live in real world not virtual. And we live in Ukraine, it is not US you know...

We clear understand that providing personal info don't gain much trust, lets be honest - it is just names, it is doesn't mean anything, it is not give for you as customer any guarantees. But providing personal, sensitive to attackers info will certainly make them stronger.

So thats true. You can believe or not, you can continue trolling, but we are long runners and we here for a long time.

Trust to be built. Lets speak about this 1 year later. Thanks for understanding and lets move this discussion to our thread.

- Liqui admin

Oh great, let's at least see your business registration and insurance certificates.

Does BTC-e.com have business registration and insurance certificates?
Yet they've been one of the largest Crypto exchanges for years... and still going strong.

Time will tell with Liqui... ICN IOU's are their 1st test

BTC-e isn't here soliciting for people's ico tokens.

[gembira]

thanks for update dev ..Some people like a worm that is overheating ,the team ICONOMI is working hard to satisfactory results
We must remain patient, all will be beautiful in time

[ICONOMI]

@ICONOMI: Do we get this test ICN's as communicated or not?

Yes. After today's hard fork we'll soon see how network behaves. If all is good test-it ICN contract will be up soon. In anycase.. it will be up at least 4 days before launch of real ICN contract.

[ICONOMI]

Hi everyone.

Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.

Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.

We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.

For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.


Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!

Thanx for the quick update.is there any chance that icn will launch before 25th if everything done with ETH?

ICNs won't be launched before 25th.

We're fully ready on our side. But we wanna make sure our investors are ready as well (after deployment of test-it ICN contract there will be step by step guides for Ethereum wallet and myetherwallet).

[ShooterXD]

Good News coming soon.

Just wait a little more and we got this.
All the best to ICONOMI

[CoM1ner]

Hi everyone.

Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.

Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.

We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.

For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.


Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!

Wow, a personal shout out from ICONOMI! Thank you so much! I am really looking forward to what you guys have to offer after the ball gets rolling. That really means a lot coming directly from you. Definitely will be saving your post and framing it  

I know there is a whole lot your plate during ICONOMI's infancy so keep up the good work and stay positive and focused. You guys seem like a wise team and I wish you all the best of luck on your venture. A whole lot of people (3,508 to be exact!) are counting on you to succeed and the entire community is waiting to see what you guys have to offer.

Good luck ICONOMI! Make us proud!

[ICONOMI]

IMHO,. Iconomi deserves its own blockcain. Why couldn't a separate blockchain interact with an ethereum smart contract? Then expand the platform's limits with DApp development. And give investors the option to choose how individual dividends are paid whether it be Lisk or Eth. Why put 3500 *+ investor's trust and value at risk (especially fiat investors) because Iconomi's success is currently dependent on Ethereum. Stratis released its own blockchain built to create private blockchains for a fraction of Iconomi's ICO investments. If others understand where I'm getting at... I think its fair to vote on a better solution such as an independent blockchain. And do this by treating every account as a delegate. Personally I would rather wait until Iconomi has the best opportunity to go public then go out on a limb with Ethers current status on work load stability. I bet we would have easily seen 21000 BTC if the DAO hack never happened...

PS: I really like the idea behind Iconomi but I'd rather get dividends in lisk.  

Ethereum:
- consistent $4MM+ daily trade volume can easily absorb $10k to $100k+ worth of dividends going out every week

- most nodes out of any crypto (7000+) means very decentralized network

- cost of sending out 6000 dividend transactions every week
  on ethereum: 2.5 minutes and 13.5 ETH ($160)
  on bitcoin: 30 minutes and 1.5 BTC ($960)

- 2nd highest hashrate of any crypto (6 TH/s) means very hard to alter a transaction once it has been written to blockchain

As you can see, Ethereum is currently the only blockchain where it is feasible to launch a huge, dividend-paying project on.  Ethereum is the only blockchain with a history of supporting tokens on its' chain with $100+ million market cap.  

Better to pay ethereum miners fees to use their network, than it would be to pay several developers to maintain a new ICN chain, which would be more centralized and less secure than ethereum.

Now Iconomi can focus on fund management and building fund management platform, instead of wasting time and money trying to maintain and grow a blockchain.

This sums up pretty much all the reasons! Thank you MoveCrypto.

[Muro]

Thank you very much for the information. I am very happy to be part of this gra project. Congratulations to Iconomi and all!