[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[SanFrancisco]

I can't wait to sell this ICN crap 

Tell me how ICONOMI is responsible for the problems of Ethereum, please.

[becauseI]

Why Price is crashing on Liqui ?

[zaki12]

we expect 25 oktober no more delays 

[XbladeX]

I can't wait to sell this ICN crap 

Tell me how ICONOMI is responsible for the problems of Ethereum, please.

ETh is not that bad i could download whole blockchain in 2h : ) 35GB...
When i tryied to download some othe coisn 1GB-2GB it took days.

[ronald0cz]

I can't wait to sell this ICN crap 

Tell me how ICONOMI is responsible for the problems of Ethereum, please.

ETh is not that bad i could download whole blockchain in 2h : ) 35GB...
When i tryied to download some othe coisn 1GB-2GB it took days.

Lucky you! It took more than one day for me to download ETH blockchain..

[Daparski]

I can't wait to sell this ICN crap 

Tell me how ICONOMI is responsible for the problems of Ethereum, please.

ETh is not that bad i could download whole blockchain in 2h : ) 35GB...
When i tryied to download some othe coisn 1GB-2GB it took days.

Lucky you! It took more than one day for me to download ETH blockchain..

perhaps your internet connection is slow. I managed to download the entire ether blockchain in ~ 3hours on 15Mb DSL connection

[Daparski]

Hi everyone.

Quick update. I'm in HK with very limited time.

Just a few things. Account swapping is stopped from now on. I'll process all the pending ones, but new ones are not accepted anymore. If you want to sell your ICNs you'll have to wait for genesis and that's when it will hit exchanges.

We are staying on ETH. Lisk could be another option we would consider. However, in current state is not yet ready.

For sure we're not gonna build our own blockchain. This is not our game. We as well didn't build our own data center for our servers.


Edit: I would like to see more people like CoM1ner in this thread! Quality posts. Hats off!

Wow, a personal shout out from ICONOMI! Thank you so much! I am really looking forward to what you guys have to offer after the ball gets rolling. That really means a lot coming directly from you. Definitely will be saving your post and framing it  

I know there is a whole lot your plate during ICONOMI's infancy so keep up the good work and stay positive and focused. You guys seem like a wise team and I wish you all the best of luck on your venture. A whole lot of people (3,508 to be exact!) are counting on you to succeed and the entire community is waiting to see what you guys have to offer.

Good luck ICONOMI! Make us proud!

You deserve it. One of the best posts around here for long time. Share more thoughts if you have

[Ais08]

IMHO,. Iconomi deserves its own blockcain. Why couldn't a separate blockchain interact with an ethereum smart contract? Then expand the platform's limits with DApp development. And give investors the option to choose how individual dividends are paid whether it be Lisk or Eth. Why put 3500 *+ investor's trust and value at risk (especially fiat investors) because Iconomi's success is currently dependent on Ethereum. Stratis released its own blockchain built to create private blockchains for a fraction of Iconomi's ICO investments. If others understand where I'm getting at... I think its fair to vote on a better solution such as an independent blockchain. And do this by treating every account as a delegate. Personally I would rather wait until Iconomi has the best opportunity to go public then go out on a limb with Ethers current status on work load stability. I bet we would have easily seen 21000 BTC if the DAO hack never happened...

PS: I really like the idea behind Iconomi but I'd rather get dividends in lisk.  

Ethereum:
- consistent $4MM+ daily trade volume can easily absorb $10k to $100k+ worth of dividends going out every week

- most nodes out of any crypto (7000+) means very decentralized network

- cost of sending out 6000 dividend transactions every week
  on ethereum: 2.5 minutes and 13.5 ETH ($160)
  on bitcoin: 30 minutes and 1.5 BTC ($960)

- 2nd highest hashrate of any crypto (6 TH/s) means very hard to alter a transaction once it has been written to blockchain

As you can see, Ethereum is currently the only blockchain where it is feasible to launch a huge, dividend-paying project on.  Ethereum is the only blockchain with a history of supporting tokens on its' chain with $100+ million market cap.  

Better to pay ethereum miners fees to use their network, than it would be to pay several developers to maintain a new ICN chain, which would be more centralized and less secure than ethereum.

Now Iconomi can focus on fund management and building fund management platform, instead of wasting time and money trying to maintain and grow a blockchain.

This sums up pretty much all the reasons! Thank you MoveCrypto.

Maintaining trust is very difficult, salute to all ICONOMI team, who continue to work hard for this project and give it a very good policy ..

[LWYRUP]

At what time will that ETH hard fork happen?

[kalpit]

At what time will that ETH hard fork happen?

About 3 hours are left for the hardfork of ehtereum.

You can track it at https://etherscan.io/

[5thangel]

At what time will that ETH hard fork happen?

About 3 hours are left for the hardfork of ehtereum.

You can track it at https://etherscan.io/

let's just hope everything goes well

[becauseI]

I think first day we see x5

[boestin]

Hardfork Countdown: https://fork.codetract.io/

[Naoko]

At what time will that ETH hard fork happen?

About 3 hours are left for the hardfork of ehtereum.

You can track it at https://etherscan.io/

how long will it take or is it instant?

[kalpit]

At what time will that ETH hard fork happen?

About 3 hours are left for the hardfork of ehtereum.

You can track it at https://etherscan.io/

how long will it take or is it instant?

According to me, it would be instantaneous. Changes to the network have already been designed by developers and available online on github. So at the time of hard fork, it would be just a mere implementation of the codes. Implementation, i think, wouldn't take time.

Update: Source from http://www.coindesk.com/october-ethereum-hard-fork-network-spam-attacks/.
It says,
  " the ethereum community is set to adopt a patch for the issue at block 2,463,000 on its main blockchain,"

[topesis]

When I read that ICONOMI decided to support the call by Liqui for trading their token on their exchange and also swapping of accounts, I said within myself that this is a bad move, I think ICONOMI have come back to their senses and notice that they are shooting themselves on the foot.

[open82buy]

 Andreas explains in the first 15 minutes what happened to Ethereum. Enjoy!!

 https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-311-anti-fragility-and-evolving-expectations

[liqui]

OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  (jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

We are not cooperating with anyone in that regard!

Sorry Liqui, but this was just very unprofessional to kind of kidnap our reputation and dump support on me.
I tried to act nice, offer account swapping and escrow in order to stop crybabies flooding this thread, but it turned out to be a bad decision. Only impatient bounty hunters wanted to "sell" their ICNs. However, this is not stopped. Please wait for official launch and sell/buy on exchanges.

Sorry Iconomi, but we just suggest to move ICN balances from Ico cabinet to Liqui according to your public proposal for forum community.

[becauseI]

OKAY GUYS HERE'S the DEAL ON ESCROW IF YOU WANT: (From Jani)

It works like this:
- you find buyer or seller finds buyer. I don't do anything here. Matchmaking is not an option.

Then both mail me to this email with ":  (jani@iconomi.net) "email should be between all of us" Do not contact seperate, no time for matchmaker service. (edited by request.)
- seller's email on ico.iconomi.net (mailing needs to be from that email)
- seller needs to tell amount of ICN on his/her account
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk address
- which email buyer wants to have for this account (we're swapping full accounts only to emails previously not on ico.iconomi.net - technical reasons)

I confirm that account has that amount. And send my address (btc/eth/lsk). Then:
- buyer sends btc/eth/lsk to my address
- within a day I exchange account, send an email to the buyer to confirm
- after buyer confirmation i send whatever I received
--
Jani Valjavec
Co-founder & CTO

Hello to all.

If someone want to move their ICN tokens to Liqui - contact Iconomi team. We are open for cooperation.

We are not cooperating with anyone in that regard!

Sorry Liqui, but this was just very unprofessional to kind of kidnap our reputation and dump support on me.
I tried to act nice, offer account swapping and escrow in order to stop crybabies flooding this thread, but it turned out to be a bad decision. Only impatient bounty hunters wanted to "sell" their ICNs. However, this is not stopped. Please wait for official launch and sell/buy on exchanges.

Sorry Iconomi, but we just suggest to move ICN balances from Ico cabinet to Liqui according to your public proposal for forum community.

Thanks to Liqui, because of you we now can not swap accounts. thanks a lot.

[ShooterXD]

I dont know who lost more Money.

Who dump your ICN on liqui or who buy it there.
Lol