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September 03, 2016, 09:53:13 AM
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Hi i don't know how NXT asset system works, although i do have a NXT account. Can someone please answer following naive questions

1. Where do i have to send/hold my BTCD to get KMD after the ICO?
2. How do I get the revshare asset based on the snapshot? Do i have to submit my NXT account somewhere in a form to receive it or convert my BTCD to superBTCD?
3. How many approx. KMD will i get for each BTCD?

Thanks

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There is no relation to NXT at all for BTCD. The only exception is the MGW asset superBTCD, but if you have the native BTCD there is no NXT involved

1. We will post a redeem address to send in the BTCD for redeem. Until then, there is nothing to do.
2. The snapshot is automatic. When the assetchain's genesis block is created (sometime next year), you will have 1:1 the same addresses and balances as of the end of ICO snapshot. Nothing to do here at all, just one day there will be a new assetchain that you have coins in.
3. The exact number is hard to say, but it will be a multiplier, like a stock split. The exact number will be so that the value of the KMD matches the value of the BTCD

Thanks for the quick reply, so this is what i understand from your reply

1. so its just like sending BTC to ICO, instead i would be sending BTCD.
2. For this i have to downoad the revshare client/wallet? How would it know that i own BTCD that i want to claim? Do i need to enter my priv keys or sign a message with them to get my revshares?
3. I heard BTCD holders will get 20% or 20M KMD, so it would be 20M/BTCD supply at time of snapshot? It comes to ~16 KMD/BTCD.

Sorry for all the naive questions but i want to be ready at time of swap and also want to calculate if it would be better to get in ICO or buy BTCD.

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September 03, 2016, 10:02:40 AM
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Hi i don't know how NXT asset system works, although i do have a NXT account. Can someone please answer following naive questions

1. Where do i have to send/hold my BTCD to get KMD after the ICO?
2. How do I get the revshare asset based on the snapshot? Do i have to submit my NXT account somewhere in a form to receive it or convert my BTCD to superBTCD?
3. How many approx. KMD will i get for each BTCD?

Thanks

Regards

Sam Smiley
There is no relation to NXT at all for BTCD. The only exception is the MGW asset superBTCD, but if you have the native BTCD there is no NXT involved

1. We will post a redeem address to send in the BTCD for redeem. Until then, there is nothing to do.
2. The snapshot is automatic. When the assetchain's genesis block is created (sometime next year), you will have 1:1 the same addresses and balances as of the end of ICO snapshot. Nothing to do here at all, just one day there will be a new assetchain that you have coins in.
3. The exact number is hard to say, but it will be a multiplier, like a stock split. The exact number will be so that the value of the KMD matches the value of the BTCD

Thanks for the quick reply, so this is what i understand from your reply

1. so its just like sending BTC to ICO, instead i would be sending BTCD.
2. For this i have to downoad the revshare client/wallet? How would it know that i own BTCD that i want to claim? Do i need to enter my priv keys or sign a message with them to get my revshares?
3. I heard BTCD holders will get 20% or 20M KMD, so it would be 20M/BTCD supply at time of snapshot? It comes to ~16 KMD/BTCD.

Sorry for all the naive questions but i want to be ready at time of swap and also want to calculate if it would be better to get in ICO or buy BTCD.
1. The BTCD redeem period will start after the ICO closes and be open for a year, but it is recommended to do it sooner, rather than later

2. There will be a revshare assetchain supporting client available when the assetchain genesis is ready. The snapshot will be used to just clone the BTCD chain balances into the assetchain genesis. So importprivkey for your addresses will do the trick

3. this is incorrect info you have, BTCD redeem will be a valuation neutral swap using .0053 as BTCD's price. So each BTCD redeemed is like you used .0053 BTC and that will get the same amount of KMD that .0053 BTC would. The exact number isnt known yet

What this means is that even if comparing against the biggest early bird bonus for BTC, any price for BTCD below .00424 is an arbitrage. As the ICO proceeds and the bonuses go away, the arbitrage price rises to .0053.

Note however that this puts a value of 0 for the revshare asset, so even at a .00424 price you are getting free revshare assets.

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September 03, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
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what is crypto777 asset?  is good asset buy?  what connection to komodo or supernet? can u recommend any other good assets buy?

thanks dev  Cheesy
crypto777 asset is the asset that various crypto services will pay to, but it wont be till next year.

SuperNET asset is the best deal as it is selling for close to its NAV value, but has future tech revenue possibilities. SuperNET owns a big percentage of crypto777, among other assets

I cant think of any other asset that has that combination

thanks for reply dev.  any bounty on this coin?

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September 03, 2016, 10:09:17 AM
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what is crypto777 asset?  is good asset buy?  what connection to komodo or supernet? can u recommend any other good assets buy?

thanks dev  Cheesy
crypto777 asset is the asset that various crypto services will pay to, but it wont be till next year.

SuperNET asset is the best deal as it is selling for close to its NAV value, but has future tech revenue possibilities. SuperNET owns a big percentage of crypto777, among other assets

I cant think of any other asset that has that combination

thanks for reply dev.  any bounty on this coin?


I am not dealing with any of those details, but pretty sure there will be. I saw that details will be posted here a bit later

supernet.org/nav.php shows the portfolio of SuperNET

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September 03, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
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ah now its totally clear to me how all this works. I hope the revshare asset will be on some exchange for trading. So my KMD share will be decided by how much total BTC is raised in ICO. Thanks for making all this clear. I hope this works for all of us.

Regarding the notorization of KMD block hash into bitcoin blockchain, how will notory nodes calculate correct fees to get into next block? Also will this not be seen as spam by BTC devs like Luke-jr who are strictly against such piggybacking and are willing to attack a chain for doing so? Have you talked to BTC devs regarding this?

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September 03, 2016, 10:17:34 AM
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Maybe it's better he's anonyous. Peaople trust less unknown faces. -> ICO will take less -> BTCD holders will get better share? maybe ...

Do not buy into this ICO! jl777 is an evil reptilian. It doesn't take a genius to see this, using names such as Iguana and now Komodo exposes their draconian agenda. Unlike mammals they have no sense of empathy. Did jl777 think of BTCDholders feelings when launching a new coin? Hell no! Only a lizardman would not have empathy for their investors like that. But what really grinds my gears is the fact that jl777 hides their identity while asking for such a large amount of new capital. Neither Ethereum nor Waves ICO were launched by an anonymous person and they both got 30k BTC investments. Now jl777 also wants 30k but does not want to tell us their real name.

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September 03, 2016, 10:19:42 AM
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ah now its totally clear to me how all this works. I hope the revshare asset will be on some exchange for trading. So my KMD share will be decided by how much total BTC is raised in ICO. Thanks for making all this clear. I hope this works for all of us.

Regarding the notorization of KMD block hash into bitcoin blockchain, how will notory nodes calculate correct fees to get into next block? Also will this not be seen as spam by BTC devs like Luke-jr who are strictly against such piggybacking and are willing to attack a chain for doing so? Have you talked to BTC devs regarding this?
Even if no exchange lists the revshare coin, since it will be a bitcoin compatible coin, iguana's easyDEX can be used to directly do atomic swaps. komodo has all the bases covered.

The fees will be calibrated according to prevailing conditions. The notaries will be able to change the fee used.

The notary nodes will use a normal transaction. so if this is made illegal then a large percentage of normal bitcoin transactions will also become illegal. Since I am working with the btcfork project, I doubt I will have any useful conversations with the existing BTC devs.

Short of an illegal DDOS attack, I dont see how Luke-jr could attack the notary nodes as it isnt doing SHA256. All the bitcoin hashrate wont do anything to attack komodo.

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September 03, 2016, 10:21:46 AM
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ah now its totally clear to me how all this works. I hope the revshare asset will be on some exchange for trading. So my KMD share will be decided by how much total BTC is raised in ICO. Thanks for making all this clear. I hope this works for all of us.

Regarding the notorization of KMD block hash into bitcoin blockchain, how will notory nodes calculate correct fees to get into next block? Also will this not be seen as spam by BTC devs like Luke-jr who are strictly against such piggybacking and are willing to attack a chain for doing so? Have you talked to BTC devs regarding this?
Even if no exchange lists the revshare coin, since it will be a bitcoin compatible coin, iguana's easyDEX can be used to directly do atomic swaps. komodo has all the bases covered.

The fees will be calibrated according to prevailing conditions. The notaries will be able to change the fee used.

The notary nodes will use a normal transaction. so if this is made illegal then a large percentage of normal bitcoin transactions will also become illegal. Since I am working with the btcfork project, I doubt I will have any useful conversations with the existing BTC devs.

Short of an illegal DDOS attack, I dont see how Luke-jr could attack the notary nodes as it isnt doing SHA256. All the bitcoin hashrate wont do anything to attack komodo.

Ok, thanks for your time & All the best Smiley

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September 03, 2016, 10:45:50 AM
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1. "The new features of Komodo required capital. There is no way to have these features without having a new ICO."

BTCD price rise could not get the capital for that? It could if was not killed like we saw recently ...

Maybe even current BTCD holders would drop some money for additional dev, this could be seen better then just being screwd - because it looks like that.

2. "We had to think a way to make the new ICO fair to both new investors as well as the BTCD holders"

You mean between investors and .. investors right? Or more pricesely old investors that are screwed now, and new that will be screwed in the future maybe ? Smiley

Answere this baby: what is unfair for new ICO investors in buing BTCD which they could later exchage for KMD! In fact this would be 100% fair same for new as for old invetors. Plus you could sell some yout BTCD and get BTC when price rise. Doing it the way is now - is only unfair for BTCD. Please do not bsht - it's only to get more money, not about being fair. I understand for new tech some additional money is needed. But the way it's done is a shame. 

PS. Saying you are doing good for BTCD holders is showing disrespect. If you want sth good for BTCD holders you would discuss things with them before I believe!




Komodo continues the path BTCD was on: anonymity. The price of BTCD was determinated by the average price in August, so no info were spread. Otherwise the price could have been artificially rised to make them worth more.

The new features of Komodo required capital. There is no way to have these features without having a new ICO.

We had to think a way to make the new ICO fair to both new investors as well as the BTCD holders. Of course we cannot please everyone, but we hope that everyone will begin to see what we are trying to achieve.


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September 03, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
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Hands up who thinks BTCD price is too big?  Cool

Probably Komodo and few his friends who wanted to buy cheaper?

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Believe it to be fair "swap" rate? Ask people, do not have to believe in sth that is easy to check Smiley


The whole BTCD community was expecting an announcement, which of course drove the price up.

The actual Komodo team was put in place in the last second, when the price was around where it currently is.

Some of the people are unhappy that the price of BTCD was so low, while some will - I'm sure - say that the price of BTCD is too big. We believe this to be fair swap rate, from the perspective of both parties.

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September 03, 2016, 11:06:01 AM
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Hands up who thinks BTCD price is too big?  Cool

Probably Komodo and few his friends who wanted to buy cheaper?

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The whole BTCD community was expecting an announcement, which of course drove the price up.

The actual Komodo team was put in place in the last second, when the price was around where it currently is.

Some of the people are unhappy that the price of BTCD was so low, while some will - I'm sure - say that the price of BTCD is too big. We believe this to be fair swap rate, from the perspective of both parties.

Coming up with an ideal swap rate is really challenging. No matter what is decided someone would be unhappy.

There was a lot of discussing regarding this as far as I know.





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September 03, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
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Right now the real BTCD price is near zero, it's worthless because it will be replaced by Komodo and the old BTCD will be left to die. The empty promise of a conversion from BTCD to KMD somewhere in the distant future does not actually give value to BTCD because anything can happen in 10 weeks. BTC might go to zero, zcash might not deliver, JL777 might vanish or die or whatever. An average BTCDholder right now has a lot of risk on their shoulders and while having all this risk, to make matters worse, they also will miss out on any new and potentially better investment opportunity. Since JL777 knew all this in advance and was also a big BTCDholder the whole thing has an awful stench of insider trading all over the place. Buying BTCD now is effectively the same as buying MtGoxCoins back in 2014 in hope of actually being able to withdraw them later on. Moderators should just lock and delete this thread or at least put a big red warning to it stating "BEWARE THE CREATOR OF THIS ICO IS ANONYMOUS AND BETRAYED THEIR PREVIOUS INVESTORS"

BTW, a guy working 16 hours a day on all these projects could not possibly have time to lurk in these forums and writing such long and tiring posts to defend their scam. It is obvious that jl777 is not one person.

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Right now the real BTCD price is near zero, it's worthless because it will be replaced by Komodo and the old BTCD will be left to die. The empty promise of a conversion from BTCD to KMD somewhere in the distant future does not actually give value to BTCD because anything can happen in 10 weeks. BTC might go to zero, zcash might not deliver, JL777 might vanish or die or whatever. An average BTCDholder right now has a lot of risk on their shoulders and while having all this risk, to make matters worse, they also will miss out on any new and potentially better investment opportunity. Since JL777 knew all this in advance and was also a big BTCDholder the whole thing has an awful stench of insider trading all over the place. Buying BTCD now is effectively the same as buying MtGoxCoins back in 2014 in hope of actually being able to withdraw them later on. Moderators should just lock and delete this thread or at least put a big red warning to it stating "BEWARE THE CREATOR OF THIS ICO IS ANONYMOUS AND BETRAYED THEIR PREVIOUS INVESTORS"

BTW, a guy working 16 hours a day on all these projects could not possibly have time to lurk in these forums and writing such long and tiring posts to defend their scam. It is obvious that jl777 is not one person.

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September 03, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
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Right now the real BTCD price is near zero, it's worthless because it will be replaced by Komodo and the old BTCD will be left to die. The empty promise of a conversion from BTCD to KMD somewhere in the distant future does not actually give value to BTCD because anything can happen in 10 weeks. BTC might go to zero, zcash might not deliver, JL777 might vanish or die or whatever. An average BTCDholder right now has a lot of risk on their shoulders and while having all this risk, to make matters worse, they also will miss out on any new and potentially better investment opportunity. Since JL777 knew all this in advance and was also a big BTCDholder the whole thing has an awful stench of insider trading all over the place. Buying BTCD now is effectively the same as buying MtGoxCoins back in 2014 in hope of actually being able to withdraw them later on. Moderators should just lock and delete this thread or at least put a big red warning to it stating "BEWARE THE CREATOR OF THIS ICO IS ANONYMOUS AND BETRAYED THEIR PREVIOUS INVESTORS"

BTW, a guy working 16 hours a day on all these projects could not possibly have time to lurk in these forums and writing such long and tiring posts to defend their scam. It is obvious that jl777 is not one person.
Jl buddies knew about Komodo so inside trading at its peak  Shocked IMO if devs are part of inside trading then its = Scam.
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Hyena and co, the value of BTCD is 0.00532 each.

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September 03, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
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jl777

It is obvious that you don't understand why people buy crypto.
It is like buying shares in company.
With known emission model, it was easy to count how big my share of total coins will be.
And it is no secret that people was attracted to BTCD because it was scarce coin.

Now you are changing rules during the game.

You are anonymous scammer, whose only intention is to suck people money in exchange for PROMISES.
I look forward to sell all my BTCD and UNITY and never buy any of your projects again.

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September 03, 2016, 11:43:13 AM
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Conqueror, what is BTCD without the tech? You can wait a year and BTCD 1.0 will still be there. So dont do the swap and you would have lost nothing.

Then all you need to do is hire a brilliant dev that will work for free for 2 years to give you the pump you want.





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September 03, 2016, 11:46:17 AM
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Right now the real BTCD price is near zero, it's worthless because it will be replaced by Komodo and the old BTCD will be left to die. The empty promise of a conversion from BTCD to KMD somewhere in the distant future does not actually give value to BTCD because anything can happen in 10 weeks. BTC might go to zero, zcash might not deliver, JL777 might vanish or die or whatever. An average BTCDholder right now has a lot of risk on their shoulders and while having all this risk, to make matters worse, they also will miss out on any new and potentially better investment opportunity. Since JL777 knew all this in advance and was also a big BTCDholder the whole thing has an awful stench of insider trading all over the place. Buying BTCD now is effectively the same as buying MtGoxCoins back in 2014 in hope of actually being able to withdraw them later on. Moderators should just lock and delete this thread or at least put a big red warning to it stating "BEWARE THE CREATOR OF THIS ICO IS ANONYMOUS AND BETRAYED THEIR PREVIOUS INVESTORS"

BTW, a guy working 16 hours a day on all these projects could not possibly have time to lurk in these forums and writing such long and tiring posts to defend their scam. It is obvious that jl777 is not one person.

Its also obvious that you dont know Komodo Team is formed by a big team all of them respectable member of crypto for many years. Before you open your poisoned mouth make sure you go to the forum thread of bullsh*ting not here. This is a decent thread
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September 03, 2016, 11:49:08 AM
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Conqueror, what is BTCD without the tech? You can wait a year and BTCD 1.0 will still be there. So dont do the swap and you would have lost nothing.

Then all you need to do is hire a brilliant dev that will work for free for 2 years to give you the pump you want.


This is not about the pump man.
This is about MORAL.
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September 03, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
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Komodo Team is formed by a big team all of them respectable member of crypto for many years

Respect? Based on what? Give me 30k BTC and I can develop you whatever you want for 2 years without actually delivering a finished product. Satoshi Nakamoto is respectable for providing us Bitcoin FOR FREE and IT WORKS. Now you tell me that Komodo team is respectable? Don't make me laugh, respect has to be earned. You don't exactly earn it with promises and many git commits. What JL777 does here is criminal and this ICO should be cancelled.

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