Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Rampion]

After speaking with ORSoC CEO, I can confirm that he guarantees KNCminer is NOT a scam.

Nevertheless, I cannot guarantee ORSoC is legit, but they seem to be. I would recommend some of our Swedish fellow Hero Members to do a background check on ORSoC, just to be sure.

Last but not least: I offer myself to visit KNCminer to test one of their products and to vouch for them in front of the community.

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[tosku]

ORSoC:


K & C:


I can upload financial statements for ORSoC as well. Where can I put PDF files easily? I don't want to host them myself.

[chipd]

ORSoC are legit alright.
Registered 1991, 11 employees and turnover of slightly over 10,000,000 SEK ($1,500,000) for 2012.
Found several news articles about them as well.

[kingcoin]

cannot guarantee ORSoC is legit[/b], but they seem to be

They have been around for some time. They have been running the opencores.org site for several years.

[Rampion]

ORSoC are legit alright.
Registered 1991, 11 employees and turnover of slightly over 10,000,000 SEK ($1,500,000) for 2012.
Found several news articles about them as well.

Good news. So they are legit, only concern is that they may not be able to develop such an ambitious project, which happened to bASIC and BFL.

If they do not take advance money until they have a working prototype we should be OK

[mobodick]

ORSoC are legit alright.
Registered 1991, 11 employees and turnover of slightly over 10,000,000 SEK ($1,500,000) for 2012.
Found several news articles about them as well.

Good news. So they are legit, only concern is that they may not be able to develop such an ambitious project, which happened to bASIC and BFL.

If they do not take advance money until they have a working prototype we should be OK

I don't think that a well established company would just step in and let it all fall out of their hands.
They understand tat the product will need to work before they even begin to manufacture it because otherwise there is a real risk of killing the whole company.
In other words, i don't think they will agree to producing something that will get them in financial trouble.

[E3V3A]

Seem legit, but it should be noted that they are currently looking to employ somebody with FPGA/ASIC experience.

http://orsoc.se/current-vacancies/langswitch_lang/en/

Kompetenser söks till våra kontor i Stockholm, Göteborg och Västerås.
    FPGA-, ASIC- och DSP utveckling med VHDL eller Verilog.
    Hårdvarunära programmering: C, C++.
    Embedded Linux.

What does that mean? That they don't actually have enough know-how or that they are so busy they can't keep up the work load... Hm. I'd say the former, since they already have 11 employees according to image above.

So yeah, we'll be waiting...and waiting...and waiting.

[mobodick]

Seem legit, but it should be noted that they are currently looking to employ somebody with FPGA/ASIC experience.

http://orsoc.se/current-vacancies/langswitch_lang/en/

Kompetenser söks till våra kontor i Stockholm, Göteborg och Västerås.
    FPGA-, ASIC- och DSP utveckling med VHDL eller Verilog.
    Hårdvarunära programmering: C, C++.
    Embedded Linux.

What does that mean? That they don't actually have enough know-how or that they are so busy they can't keep up the work load... Hm. I'd say the former, since they already have 11 employees according to image above.

So yeah, we'll be waiting...and waiting...and waiting.

You're wondering if it's strange for a bakery to look for bakers.

If you company specializes in the design and production of ASICs and FPGAs then you need people that understand ASICs, FPGAs and verilog.
NO SHIT GENIUS! 

[Woshie]

Seem legit, but it should be noted that they are currently looking to employ somebody with FPGA/ASIC experience.

http://orsoc.se/current-vacancies/langswitch_lang/en/

Kompetenser söks till våra kontor i Stockholm, Göteborg och Västerås.
    FPGA-, ASIC- och DSP utveckling med VHDL eller Verilog.
    Hårdvarunära programmering: C, C++.
    Embedded Linux.

What does that mean? That they don't actually have enough know-how or that they are so busy they can't keep up the work load... Hm. I'd say the former, since they already have 11 employees according to image above.

So yeah, we'll be waiting...and waiting...and waiting.

https://i.imgur.com/L3J6n.jpg

[E3V3A]

Well, if you're so smart, why'd you just totally miss the point?

The point (for those who are not pretending to be smart asses), is that if they haven't even hired the right guys yet, we'll have quite a bit more waiting to do. Hey, what do I care? I've already promised not to buy into this project. Spend you coins man, just spend them all. 

[Beepbop]

Bakery with 11 employees posts advertisement asking for a baker. You would assume that lab member 12 is the first baker that they hire?

[mobodick]

Well, if you're so smart, why'd you just totally miss the point?

The point (for those who are not pretending to be smart asses), is that if they haven't even hired the right guys yet, we'll have quite a bit more waiting to do. Hey, what do I care? I've already promised not to buy into this project. Spend you coins man, just spend them all. 

Go to a webpage of a random company that does stuff.
Then go to the jobs page.
They will be asking for people that do the same stuff they do.
Sirously.
Go try.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I emailed the address on the site to ask a few questions about the product.

The response is below, and was received within a an hour.

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Hi Adam

You are quite right it is hard to predict the exact cost of everything before we know the answers.

What I can say is we will have multiple products

You can expect to see products that are available in one or two weeks from date of order which will still earn you money and return in a short time frame.  Also products and services which will have a longer lead time but will be competitive  the performance of the existing market players   

Med vänlig hälsning  |  Best regards
Sam Cole
****

Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!

I believe this to be a sockpuppet account, and no way in hell would, or should they have given such a lame reply.

[rograz]

keep up the digging! I really want them to turn out to be legit, asics being made in my "backyard" would be so more convenient ;P

[Phinnaeus Gage]

keep up the digging! I really want them to turn out to be legit, asics being made in my "backyard" would be so more convenient ;P

Your wish is my... http://www.linkedin.com/company/orsoc

About ORSoC

ORSoC is an expert consultant company with focus in ASIC-, FPGA-, and DSP development, including design, verification and backend work. We are located in Stockholm, Sweden.

The company is legit, but could somebody point to me where they state that they make anything themselves?

Two bitcoins wanting to make ASIC-based bitcoin miners partners up with a consultant firm that farms out the development, then manufactures ASIC chips without consulting a single Bitcoin filmware developer. I call that process Magic: The Gathering.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

http://web.archive.org/web/20070111055414/http://www.orsoc.se/

Though our semiconductor partner, eASIC, we can offer extremely cost efficient target technologies to fit the unique requirements of performance and volume.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC

In 1999 eASIC Corporation was founded in San Jose, California, and incorporated in Delaware by Zvi Or-Bach, the founder of Chip Express (renamed to ChipX). eASIC is a privately held company, headquartered in Santa Clara, California, with engineering and R&D teams in Romania and Malaysia. eASIC is venture backed by Vinod Khosla, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers (KPCB), Crescendo Ventures, and Evergreen Partners.

http://www.easic.com/easic-contact/28-nm-registration/

[MWNinja]

Easic performance isn't going to knock your socks off (you only get to customize the top layer, pretty similar performance to fpga hardcopy).  But you can get an asic done there for under 100k, so I believe this is a viable project.  I would expect them to go with the 45nm process, and power/performance wise be somewhere in-between avalon and BFL.  I would guesstimate somewhere in the 800mhash/chip on the easic 45nm process. Don't trust the simulations, and pray you get it right on the first run.

[rograz]

at this rate you guys will have found out more about their project than they know themselves!

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Easic performance isn't going to knock your socks off (you only get to customize the top layer, pretty similar performance to fpga hardcopy).  But you can get an asic done there for under 100k, so I believe this is a viable project.  I would expect them to go with the 45nm process, and power/performance wise be somewhere in-between avalon and BFL.  I would guesstimate somewhere in the 800mhash/chip on the easic 45nm process. Don't trust the simulations, and pray you get it right on the first run.

Even with a million dollars in their coffer and opting to go with 110nm chips, it can't be done without consulting developers. And even if they started today, or last month, there would still be no way that they can meet a summer release.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

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