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April 25, 2013, 10:44:05 PM
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They replied to my email they said at LEAST $2000 off of Jupiter.

lucky you. I sent a message with a few questions
through their contact form almost 2 hours ago, still
no answer. what email address did you use?

anyway if true that means that we're going to pay
mars only 795$. it seems a fair price as long as
jupiter will be delivered in a reasonable time frame.

 



Use the sales one. Sam replied to me directly. His direct email is sam@kncminer.com
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April 25, 2013, 11:29:26 PM
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got an email

" KnCMiner product information
 

After launching our website just a few weeks ago we have had an overwhelming response. This has been highly valuable in many ways and we encourage you to continue to give us as much feedback as you already have been doing.

Today we are presenting more technical information about our products and services, which we will be offering from now until the start of the autumn. One of the key issues that has come out of the last few days is the issue of trust. We are fully aware that trust must be earned and this is why we are providing you with as much information as we can. Allowing you to make an informed decision about any future purchases.

We are announcing two devices today, Mars and Jupiter. We understand that the Mars product is not ground breaking but we are launching it to show our work so it can be publicly validated by as many people as possible. Our new Jupiter product is groundbreaking and we are sure you will soon agree contains some impressive specifications. The main focus of the information we have available today will be around the following:

    Our first mining product which is a 6 GH/s device called Mars
    Our second mining product hashing at a minimum of 250 GH/s called Jupiter."


I received my email at 6:28:02 (local time is CST).

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Could others be so kind as to see when your email was received? I have a hunch.
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April 25, 2013, 11:36:53 PM
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I received my email at 6:28:02 (local time is CST).

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This post was posted at 6:28:33.

Could others be so kind as to see when your email was received? I have a hunch.

I got mine at 11:27 GMT. So roughly the same time.  Is this another conspiracy theory?
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April 25, 2013, 11:43:24 PM
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I received my email at 6:28:02 (local time is CST).

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This post was posted at 6:28:33.

Could others be so kind as to see when your email was received? I have a hunch.

I got mine at 11:27 GMT. So roughly the same time.  Is this another conspiracy theory?

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April 26, 2013, 12:07:36 AM
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April 26, 2013, 12:31:31 AM
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Avalon DIY only costs $154 for the chips plus another $50 for the parts to make it in total $200 for 6.2gh/s versus 6.0gh/s for $2,795? a $2,595 different?

Avalon listen to the members here that is why there are so successful. Maybe their mentality is different. They are OUT of the game. We wasted our quality time on them. Keep changing their specs from the previous model is not good. Clearly means they cannot come out with a ASIC Product on time.

Before the changes $2955 for 50gh/s to Mars $2,795 for 6gh/s??
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April 26, 2013, 01:18:02 AM
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It's not an ASIC. It's a FPGA so it's bound to be more expensive. While you get roughly the same Gh/s, the two systems are vastly different and thus makes up the difference for the price. If you look at the FPGA, you will see that they are a lot more expensive. Please, calm down and read their post before posting like this.

Furthermore, we do not have the full details yet, but it looks like you get $2000 off the ASIC if you buy the FPGA, making it $745 for the FPGA.

If you feel that you have wasted your time here, maybe you should subscribe to this thread. No point in further posting.

Whoever you are a troll for kncminer? They come out with 50gh/s ASIC initially and now change to 6gh/s, we don't care about FPGA any more because at 6gh/s they are out of the game, Useless and dug their own grave in this industry. ASIC is the King, either you have them or forget about mining btc. Why give us the $2000, no one is interested in the $2000 because if they can change spec they can change their price anytime. Why not give us $745 and FORGET the $2k..  Everything is about Costs and Timing, Now they are both out.
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April 26, 2013, 01:33:45 AM
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It's not an ASIC. It's a FPGA so it's bound to be more expensive. While you get roughly the same Gh/s, the two systems are vastly different and thus makes up the difference for the price. If you look at the FPGA, you will see that they are a lot more expensive. Please, calm down and read their post before posting like this.

Furthermore, we do not have the full details yet, but it looks like you get $2000 off the ASIC if you buy the FPGA, making it $745 for the FPGA.

If you feel that you have wasted your time here, maybe you should subscribe to this thread. No point in further posting.

Whoever you are a troll for kncminer? They come out with 50gh/s ASIC initially and now change to 6gh/s, we don't care about FPGA any more because at 6gh/s they are out of the game, Useless and dug their own grave in this industry. ASIC is the King, either you have them or forget about mining btc. Why give us the $2000, no one is interested in the $2000 because if they can change spec they can change their price anytime. Why not give us $745 and FORGET the $2k..  Everything is about Costs and Timing, Now they are both out.

Because nitwit, the 2k is an advance on producing the ASIC devices. You agree to lend them 2k, and they'll let you have a 6gh fpga to mine in the interim at $795 total cost. The combined investment in the fpga allows them to develop the future product plus 6gh gives you something whilst BFL ship and increase difficulty.

The real danger is the open source plans Avalon are releasing with their 10,000's of chips they are flooding the market with to DIYers. The hobbyists will create a more affordable competing product.

But should KNC encourage expansion, over clocking water cooled chips and modding in general as well as more efficient power consumption then there is at least some future proofing.

ROI is not guaranteed though, especially not with BFL! And almost certainly not those that paid BFL with bitcoins pre-order in '12!!

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April 26, 2013, 01:39:21 AM
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 Please, calm down and read their post before posting like this.


You afraid of bold lettering ...?       OMG run a "bold" question--->>>  ?


Dan99 you calm?...  hmm

Strange.. he looks calm to me. He wasnt cursing..

 

He dan99 can you repeat youre question / statement but act like youre talking to a 5 year old..

maybe you can included a picture of a popsicle with some nice colorful lettering ..  and maybe a clown in the background?



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April 26, 2013, 01:42:34 AM
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LOL, Ed Trice doesn't care about the Bitcoin market.  All he wants is our pre-order money to fund his business on building property on Mars.  Grin
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April 26, 2013, 02:25:54 AM
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LOL, Ed Trice doesn't care about the Bitcoin market.  All he wants is our pre-order money to fund his business on building property on Mars.  Grin

ya, he want us to lend him the money to start his Asic project, which means that all this time he is lying about his asic project. So probably the Mars only cost less than $795?
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April 26, 2013, 03:32:13 AM
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http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/orsoc.se

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April 26, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
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April 26, 2013, 04:23:03 AM
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Could this 6GH thing be used for mining other coins? And script based ones?

If yes, than it might be good buy specially if it could be shipped fast, otherwise, as much as I understand their wish to gain some money for asic production it's too expensive.

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April 26, 2013, 04:33:39 AM
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They replied to my email they said at LEAST $2000 off of Jupiter.

lucky you. I sent a message with a few questions
through their contact form almost 2 hours ago, still
no answer. what email address did you use?

anyway if true that means that we're going to pay
mars only 795$. it seems a fair price as long as
jupiter will be delivered in a reasonable time frame.

 



How is $795 a fair price when BFL is offering a product with the same hashing power for $275? https://products.butterflylabs.com/5-gh-s-bitcoin-miner.html

6Ghash is not enough hashing power to last 6 months but it is enough to buy these devices as needed to keep up if they are modular and cheap. If we can buy one of these devices each month for 6 months that would probably keep up with difficulty but I'm not a math genius so correct my numbers.

That said where do you get the $795 price and how is it fair? Yeah I agree the Jupiter would completely change the game. If it's -$2000 for people who buy the Mars then that is only $5000 which is somewhat reasonable for the amount of hashing power it offers. The question is how reliable it is, how efficient is it, and I agree why does it need water cooling and how will that work?
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April 26, 2013, 04:43:06 AM
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The question is how reliable it is, how efficient is it, and I agree why does it need water cooling and how will that work?

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April 26, 2013, 04:44:23 AM
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It's not an ASIC. It's a FPGA so it's bound to be more expensive. While you get roughly the same Gh/s, the two systems are vastly different and thus makes up the difference for the price. If you look at the FPGA, you will see that they are a lot more expensive. Please, calm down and read their post before posting like this.

Furthermore, we do not have the full details yet, but it looks like you get $2000 off the ASIC if you buy the FPGA, making it $745 for the FPGA.

If you feel that you have wasted your time here, maybe you should subscribe to this thread. No point in further posting.

You're assuming the FPGA is profitable and doesn't lose us money. If it's not profitable then how much of a deal is it? It has to either make us money or break even.

6Ghash is nothing and for that price it's a huge gamble. They could take the money from the FPGA and never release the Jupiter.
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April 26, 2013, 05:24:20 AM
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http://orsoc.se is down i wonder why?
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April 26, 2013, 05:40:23 AM
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http://orsoc.se is down i wonder why?

Perhaps, if the community would allow them to take just one pre-order, they would then be able to pay their hosting arrears.

I think I need Kano or (?) to explain this to me and the community: http://www.businessregion.se/mappfornyheter/mappfornyheter2012/orsocexpanderarivastsverige.5.249e750913abda23d1c1443.html

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For what it's worth in the prior email they told me they are making pretty much nothing on the FPGA they are just offering it, to built trust and a reputation with the community.
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