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July 07, 2017, 05:02:09 PM |
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Do you mean you have multiplied your initial investment by 50 in less than 2 months?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Have you finished primary school yet? In no way does your calculation make sense. Take a look at this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.msg19956300#msg19956300. (I'm guessing the percentage made each day was over the previous day already increased, so the ammount keeps growing and growing exponentially... Am I right?)
No. First, no need to be so harsh. I have a masters education and a reputated carreer in a completely different field, fyi. He said he made 4,28% EACH DAY, so my calculation was: Invest 100 --> 104.28 at the end of the day. Has 104.28 now --> 108.74 at the end of the second day. And so on. If you don't want to be helpful just don't answer. Oh, and have you noticed? I´m a newbie. I guess I will stop asking questions in experts' threads. 100 x 1.0428^56 = ? WTF?? did you read his message?? he literally told you the formula of the calculation... based on 4.28% percentage average daily.... Day 1: invested 1btc = 1.0428 Day 2: invested 1.0428 = 1.087 Day 3: invested 1.087 = 1.133 day 4: invested 1.133 = 1.181 and keep doing that for 56 days.... people needs to go back to maths school LOL lol moroooon please write down each day from day 1 to day 56 and then prove that result will be about 50x investment... ahahahah mr genius i am talking about your formula that you put thinking you are the genius who got the formula right.... he was just point out it will grow including the profits... because you can make profit from your investment + profit of day 1 etcs.....
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genieter
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July 07, 2017, 05:13:24 PM |
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I am new here and created an account to message Gunthar because I want to use to bot. Lets see what this will bring us!
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maddox7
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July 07, 2017, 06:35:31 PM |
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Do you mean you have multiplied your initial investment by 50 in less than 2 months?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Have you finished primary school yet? In no way does your calculation make sense. Take a look at this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.msg19956300#msg19956300. (I'm guessing the percentage made each day was over the previous day already increased, so the ammount keeps growing and growing exponentially... Am I right?)
No. First, no need to be so harsh. I have a masters education and a reputated carreer in a completely different field, fyi. He said he made 4,28% EACH DAY, so my calculation was: Invest 100 --> 104.28 at the end of the day. Has 104.28 now --> 108.74 at the end of the second day. And so on. If you don't want to be helpful just don't answer. Oh, and have you noticed? I´m a newbie. I guess I will stop asking questions in experts' threads. 100 x 1.0428^56 = ? WTF?? did you read his message?? he literally told you the formula of the calculation... based on 4.28% percentage average daily.... Day 1: invested 1btc = 1.0428 Day 2: invested 1.0428 = 1.087 Day 3: invested 1.087 = 1.133 day 4: invested 1.133 = 1.181 and keep doing that for 56 days.... people needs to go back to maths school LOL lol moroooon please write down each day from day 1 to day 56 and then prove that result will be about 50x investment... ahahahah mr genius i am talking about your formula that you put thinking you are the genius who got the formula right.... he was just point out it will grow including the profits... because you can make profit from your investment + profit of day 1 etcs..... loool if you have a closer look at my formula you will notice it is a shorter form of his formula (calculating the same with respect of previous profits). but profit after day 56 is still not 50x as he mentioned...
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July 07, 2017, 07:22:39 PM |
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Why you both dont get a motel room tho? imo aint anything of public interest related to the thread, good time to take popcorns instead.
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Oktorok
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July 08, 2017, 02:59:37 AM |
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Hi guys, I'm new to this kind of area of botting/trading. I am trying to verify manually the strats used here (i.e. BB method, using 25% values). Right now I am manually monitoring this, using Poloniex and making an excel sheet. I am not making real trades, just pretend trades, but right now I don't seem to be making any money on my books. Because a lot of the markets are trending down (bearish?) it seems my 'fake' trades are holding a lot of bags... is this normal? Right now I pretended to invest starting amount = 0.5BTC and I am down to around 0.4BTC (20% loss) because I am holding some bags (I just valuate the bags at their current prices).
What do you guys think? Does the bot handle this better than I am? Because it would seem the bot would need to wait until the price is above purchase price to sell these bags...
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Kilka
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July 08, 2017, 07:49:00 AM |
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Hi Guys,
Currently I'm 18% down in 5 days. So don't expect only positive gains. I know that this is expected with the way the bot operates and the markets going down, but still I'm sure many newbs that are thinking about getting rich quick aren't aware of that and are expecting crazy gains in a matter of days.
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Lauda
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July 08, 2017, 07:51:02 AM |
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Currently I'm 18% down in 5 days.
You are technically not down until you sell your altcoins back for a smaller amount of Bitcoin. I had warned about the bear market a while ago. So don't expect only positive gains.
Short term anything is possible. Long term, positive is the likely outcome. I know that this is expected with the way the bot operates and the markets going down, but still I'm sure many newbs that are thinking about getting rich quick aren't aware of that and are expecting crazy gains in a matter of days.
No "get rich quick" tools exist. If they did, nobody would sell them anyways.
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Oktorok
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July 08, 2017, 07:55:08 AM |
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You are technically not down until you sell your altcoins back for a smaller amount of Bitcoin. I had warned about the bear market a while ago.
Thanks for the explanation. So during these bearish times and we are holding multiple bags, do we just hold on to these and we expect they will all eventually recover? When should we decide is appropriate time to sell at a loss? I assume bot doesn't do this (except for security margin feature which is manual cut off). Hoping you can advise.
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July 08, 2017, 08:20:42 AM |
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Thanks for the explanation. So during these bearish times and we are holding multiple bags, do we just hold on to these and we expect they will all eventually recover?
That's how I traded before, and I know that a lot of veteran resellers do the same. The advice was always "HODL" during the bear market, and it has worked out so far. Recent versions of Gunbot are less prone to "holding bags" anyways. When should we decide is appropriate time to sell at a loss? I assume bot doesn't do this (except for security margin feature which is manual cut off). Hoping you can advise.
That's always open for debate. There is no right answer that works out for every currency, in every situation and for everyone. You either *risk* hoping for a recovery, or you cut your losses and hope to get back the capital with trading. I've seen people hold things that went down 30-50% and eventually recovered.
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Oktorok
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July 08, 2017, 11:32:26 AM |
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That's how I traded before, and I know that a lot of veteran resellers do the same. The advice was always "HODL" during the bear market, and it has worked out so far. Recent versions of Gunbot are less prone to "holding bags" anyways.
How exactly is it less prone to holding bags? It seems to me that if it's not going to sell at a loss it would hold the bag. Not sure what can be changed here so that recent versions would be any better than older versions. Am I missing something in the logic?
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Lauda
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July 08, 2017, 12:41:34 PM |
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How exactly is it less prone to holding bags? It seems to me that if it's not going to sell at a loss it would hold the bag. Not sure what can be changed here so that recent versions would be any better than older versions. Am I missing something in the logic?
Read the release notes. What I meant is that the bot has become better at anticipating an upcoming "bear market/price decline" and is less likely to buy before it.
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July 08, 2017, 03:59:38 PM |
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Greetings. Can you tell me why you do not trust Poloniex? You can make lots of money with compound interest. I hope you can clarify this doubt. Thank you.
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July 08, 2017, 04:33:48 PM |
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Greetings.
Can you tell me why you do not trust Poloniex?
Regulation? No. Known owners/public? Not really. A high number of users reporting problems (ranging from margin trading problems to stuck coins)? High. Remember: Mt. Gox and Cryptsy. These two are one of many lessons from the past.
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July 08, 2017, 07:10:25 PM |
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Thanks, but it's not really worth my time to setup an account there and post a WTS ad and stuff. Thought it was a simple transfer of ownership by letting the admin know I would be releasing the license for another person. I saw others buy and sell in this thread but oddly after I posted my last post, it got promptly deleted by the admin... HMmmmmmm.. Confirms my concern... Either way.. Good luck to all who still claim to be making $$$$ with this proggie.. I'll stick to my other bot(s) that work.
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Go Big or Go Home.
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Gunthar (OP)
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July 08, 2017, 08:16:30 PM |
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~snip
As i mentioned many times in this thread, this post is not in a marketplace it is a Service Announcement, so by local and board rules you shoudnt use this to sell your stuff: you can post it in this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0 AND (if you want) there is a dedicated forum we created for all GUNBOT users with a marketplace board for people that wanna trade their licenses https://gunthy.org/index.php?board=4.0Hope to have cleared your "concerns" ( ) Thanks! ~Gun
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Oktorok
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July 08, 2017, 09:57:41 PM |
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How exactly is it less prone to holding bags? It seems to me that if it's not going to sell at a loss it would hold the bag. Not sure what can be changed here so that recent versions would be any better than older versions. Am I missing something in the logic?
Read the release notes. What I meant is that the bot has become better at anticipating an upcoming "bear market/price decline" and is less likely to buy before it. Thanks I will read through the notes. I understand what you meant, I am just wondering g how the bot is capable of doing such a thing. I.e. What conditions must be satisfied in order to buy/sell
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dragonsfire1981
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July 09, 2017, 12:38:43 PM |
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One question Gunthar- can this Bot be used to trade on a demo/practice account first anywhere- when I did Forex I tested a few bots but always used demo money first for a while whilst testing it to be able to understand it and optimise the settings. I am going to buy this bot I think as I said to you in PM but being able to test it in a simulated would put my mind at ease as well!! Lookm forward to your reply
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July 09, 2017, 10:54:50 PM |
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Пoдcкaжитe, ecть aнaлoг вeтки нa pyccкoм?
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Gunthar (OP)
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July 10, 2017, 12:37:59 AM |
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Пoдcкaжитe, ecть aнaлoг вeтки нa pyccкoм?
There is a very active Russian community yes: join me on telegram i'll introduce you to them. ~snip
no demo, sorry
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July 10, 2017, 02:43:52 AM |
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Whew I could usethis now more than ever.
I need to get a loan.... Too bad my cred on here isn't good enough :/
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