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January 22, 2017, 07:52:09 AM
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but now that we understand that BBT can never be proven to be the way it happened, it should be dropped as a theory.

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Dropped as theory because it can't be proved? Why? That means we would have to drop all the other theories.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Of course it can't be proved, a scientific theory will alway remain a theory. That's the point.
     
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A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence have been accumulated. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory; a law will always remain a law.


Like it or not, at this moment in time, it's the best explaination we have out of the other competing theories.
Seems to me it's all because you don't want it to be true. I find it strange you young flat earth people have no trouble with your god making the world out of clay, talking snakes and donkeys, strange people with no belly buttons in magical gardens; yet your god isn't powerful enough to make the big bang happen.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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January 22, 2017, 01:03:24 PM
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For us Catholics we believe in obediential potency. Obediential potency is the natural facility given by God to us, enabling us to know God. It's like ever since we were born we already know that there is a God who created us all and loves us all so much. And, since the universe cannot be made by a human person we believe that there is a Supreme Being who made everything that exists.

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January 22, 2017, 07:45:46 PM
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but now that we understand that BBT can never be proven to be the way it happened, it should be dropped as a theory.

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Dropped as theory because it can't be proved? Why? That means we would have to drop all the other theories.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Of course it can't be proved, a scientific theory will alway remain a theory. That's the point.
    
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A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence have been accumulated. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory; a law will always remain a law.


Like it or not, at this moment in time, it's the best explaination we have out of the other competing theories.
Seems to me it's all because you don't want it to be true. I find it strange you young flat earth people have no trouble with your god making the world out of clay, talking snakes and donkeys, strange people with no belly buttons in magical gardens; yet your god isn't powerful enough to make the big bang happen.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Big Bang doesn't explain things like emotion, spirituality, or even thought, to say nothing about intelligence. If Big Bang were truth, these things must have existed within Big Bang, or they wouldn't exist now. So, if Big Bang were the truth, Big Bang would be God. Why? Because nature and the universe has a whole lot of things that are way beyond mankind in emotion, spirituality, and intelligent design.

Big Bang Theory is science fiction at this moment. If it were even an approximation of reality, the formulators of it would have included emotion, spirituality, and intelligent design... and would have admitted to the existence of God if they were at all honest.

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February 11, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

My opinion for why God exists in people's mind is because those people BELIEVE that there is a GOD  Smiley . Although they do not see him and feel him, they believe because their heart tells them to believe and have faith. Some people may not believe in Him and question other people's faith but for me we should just respect that. You are right that we are the ones who made things possible but according to what I can see those believers of God finds strength whenever they ask and pray to Him. Smiley


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February 11, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
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We all people are the creation of God. God exists everywhere. We are the existence of what and how God has created us. As it is the human imagination, God exists in all people mind.

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February 11, 2017, 12:38:19 PM
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It exist in all people mind because He is the Truth. No one created God as He is at the beggining of everything. People do not "want" God, they just believe in Him.

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February 11, 2017, 01:15:29 PM
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It exist in all people mind because He is the Truth. No one created God as He is at the beggining of everything. People do not "want" God, they just believe in Him.

I do not believe in him...... so that in itself disproves your argument.
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February 11, 2017, 02:15:46 PM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.
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February 11, 2017, 04:00:56 PM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.
True. So you mean you don't also believe in air because you don't see air?
Just a challenge for those who doesn't believe in HIM to talk to them and to search more about them, Read bible especially the book of Genesis (the creation ) and the Revelation then come back here if you don't still believe in Him.
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.
True. So you mean you don't also believe in air because you don't see air?
Just a challenge for those who doesn't believe in HIM to talk to them and to search more about them, Read bible especially the book of Genesis (the creation ) and the Revelation then come back here if you don't still believe in Him.

When you talk about science and proofs, please be aware that you can research just created, visible world, after the beginning of the universe.
Scientists can't research beyond time and space, before creation of all universe.
So, logical conclusion is that scientists can't prove God.
God is spiritual being, and we can see or feel him only with our spiritual body, spiritual eyes or hearth.

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February 11, 2017, 07:32:44 PM
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Because humans have an innate need to understand the purpose behind things. Its evolutionary at its heart. When something happens we are hardwired to look for rationale.

Like many elements of the human brain, our nature supports our survival in some places but then completely screws us in others. If you hear a growl from your backyard, instinctually you'll look for the predator so you can evade it. If your house creaks in the night but you don't understand the material qualities of the wooden structure, you may find yourself looking for a ghost.

If we try to classify religions across the world, they falls into two pretty telling camps.

Atheistic religions, such as Taoism, for example, seeks to eliminate the pull for purpose through introspection. Theistic religions, like Christianity or Animistic religions, and such seek to attribute that purpose to supernatural entities like Gods or Spirits.

Both sides of the coin address the same human need in opposite ways - either by helping us cope with the lack of purpose in the world, or by attributing purpose to deities.

Atheism does not seek to dominate or force people to unconditional obedience. I think this is a great alternative to the deception of religion. Any person should strive for knowledge, not blind faith in a fairy tale.
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February 11, 2017, 09:32:36 PM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.

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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.

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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.
Is there a valid proof of what you be after your death,god might have created the universe and he is one created the plague and all the diseases too  Grin i am not certain what happens after death and there might be a higher power but i am sure religion is a plague without any doubt.

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February 11, 2017, 10:41:16 PM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.
Is there a valid proof of what you be after your death,god might have created the universe and he is one created the plague and all the diseases too  Grin i am not certain what happens after death and there might be a higher power but i am sure religion is a plague without any doubt.

To believe in God or not believe is just matter of peoples opinion, nothing more. Why do i say that... well when God created us and everything else he gaved us humans free will. That is one of most precious things that human race have. Some one would say that God have abandon us when he created us, and that could be truth, consider free will. If he menage us and you believe in fate, there is no free will and back forth.
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February 12, 2017, 12:24:05 AM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.
Is there a valid proof of what you be after your death,god might have created the universe and he is one created the plague and all the diseases too  Grin i am not certain what happens after death and there might be a higher power but i am sure religion is a plague without any doubt.

Love in its truest form, Christianity, is what fixes the plagues and problems of the earth. Whether it is abortion, mass murders, greed, etc., love would fix all of it. Without "religion", the earth would be an even bigger mess.

God did not create plagues. God did use plagues in the Old Testament to demonstrate to His people who God is, and to this day we still remember these historical times that are 100% true and real.

There is another power btw (in case you didn't know), the devil.
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February 12, 2017, 01:19:00 AM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.
True. So you mean you don't also believe in air because you don't see air?
Just a challenge for those who doesn't believe in HIM to talk to them and to search more about them, Read bible especially the book of Genesis (the creation ) and the Revelation then come back here if you don't still believe in Him.

Actually, I do believe in air as it can be measured scientifically. Hence my point of proof.

If you are stating the Bible is a book of truth, how many inconsistencies would you like me to point out?

I think that if you have faith in something, then that is your own belief. However, when you state that the answers to life lie in fantasy novels and explain them as truth, I question these comments.
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February 12, 2017, 01:23:55 AM
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Love in its truest form, Christianity, is what fixes the plagues and problems of the earth. Whether it is abortion, mass murders, greed, etc., love would fix all of it. Without "religion", the earth would be an even bigger mess.

God did not create plagues. God did use plagues in the Old Testament to demonstrate to His people who God is, and to this day we still remember these historical times that are 100% true and real.

There is another power btw (in case you didn't know), the devil.

Hang on, you state that Christianity is "Love" and that religion will fix all problems. Then please explain how the Crusades in the years 1095 to 1291 does not fall under the banner of Religious Mass murder? The crusades show me that religion is the cause of mass murder.

You contradict yourself by saying God didn't create plagues but then say he did.

How do you know your bible is true and correct? The Bible has changed numerous times already through history. It is no longer a work of truth but a work of fiction.

The Devil is no more real than your God.
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February 12, 2017, 01:30:03 AM
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Who create God? Why there is always a confusion, misunderstanding and debates on the topic of God? Why do people want God? Isn't we are the one to make everything possible? We don't have to give our faith and hope to God. Isn't it ? Why God exists in all people mind? Embarrassed

You have the right to believe in whatever you believe in and you also possess the right not to believe in anything at all. Its your right and your conviction. For those that believes including myself have a sense of feelings that things dont just happen by default without the hand of God like getting unmerited favor, saving from unnecessary attacks, praying for a particular thing and even getting response which means someone is listening and answering that prayer and that person is no other than God.

There is the difference.... Atheists rely on proof... those who believe in religion speak about truth without proof.

You wanna play a game ? Give me a proof that after life there is nothing, that God did not created the Universe or that simply He does not exist. Atheists are the greatest plague on the World, as they are generally also leftists and decerebrated anti-racists.

Give me proof that life after death there is Heaven. Show me that God created the Universe or just show me he exists. Ask him to post a selfie here so we may all gaze upon him.

Religious fanatics are the greatest plague on Earth. They are bigoted, human hating, narcissistic, hate filled murdering creatures. After proof of this....... read the Bible. It tells you how to live and kill. 
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