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February 05, 2017, 06:06:55 AM
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Theft would be a strong word to use. Well, taxation does do us good too. A lot of things get fixed like roads and stuff. The question is, are we being taxed appropriately?
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February 05, 2017, 06:18:35 AM
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It's actually more common for a student to attack his teacher than the other way round.

That is why the educational standards are falling now in many of the Western nations, especially in the inner city areas. The students have no respect for their teachers, and qualified people don't want to enter the teaching profession.

Yeah, the student must respect the teacher because they are someone who teach us and pass knowledge, and teacher wont hit the student without reason though. But idont like teacher give punishment too mean when warn the student though
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February 05, 2017, 08:09:58 AM
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yes I think so. At the beginning there's no taxation and now, as time passes governments invent more and more taxes, most of them are pretty baseless  Sad
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February 05, 2017, 10:16:27 AM
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yes I think so. At the beginning there's no taxation and now, as time passes governments invent more and more taxes, most of them are pretty baseless  Sad
Corruption increases every year and therefore, the government need more taxes. In addition, in many countries of the world begin to crumble the pyramids of solidary pension system.
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March 19, 2017, 07:08:19 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs



For me, taxation is not theft. It just a process of giving back to our society and government. We know that the taxes that were paid are allotted for government projects and etc. It should be called theft when taxation is done with corruption.



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March 19, 2017, 09:14:21 AM
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In general, in a good way, of course you need to pay taxes and sleep peacefully. But now there is no assurance and guarantee that this money will go to improve the country.
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March 19, 2017, 09:56:34 AM
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I wouldn't say so. Sure, I live in a country with very high taxes, but on the other hand it feels like the majority of my tax money goes to good stuff.

I have access to free healthcare, free education (heck, I even get monetary support from the state while studying) and I feel safe walking around any part of my town at any time of the day. Also, I do not have to worry about becoming homeless as we have a social security net.

Sure, there are both cons with taxes and problems with my country, but in the end I actually think I benefit from the high taxes.
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March 19, 2017, 11:57:26 AM
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yes I think so. At the beginning there's no taxation and now, as time passes governments invent more and more taxes, most of them are pretty baseless  Sad
Corruption increases every year and therefore, the government need more taxes. In addition, in many countries of the world begin to crumble the pyramids of solidary pension system.

Before we speak of corruption in the government it is better if we check and understand how a country makes its budget. People who are not working in the government does not see how it is hard to finance and fund any projects and all they do is complain but never verify how the funds of the government is allocated. Though we cannot deny that there are some corruptions in the government but let us not all blame to the government since even the citizens do not pay the proper taxes and other does not work and just rely on the governments welfare and services.
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March 19, 2017, 01:07:42 PM
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It depends. If government uses it for common interest/health etc its ok. But when they use the taxes for a groups interests its theft. For example if government use the taxes for building churches or mosques its theft, if they hire more officers than needed and pay with taxes its theft. It should be optimum.
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March 19, 2017, 01:26:07 PM
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Of course some taxation is necessary, or you won't have roads, schools etc.

As long as arson is free to live somewhere else, whether in a society with different taxes more to their liking, or out in the woods, then you can't complain too much. But some people view taxation more as a law enforcement issue and a way to control people or inflict their ideas on them. It is unfortunate that exactly the people who should not work in those kinds of jobs often are attracted to that work and cause harm to others.
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March 19, 2017, 01:35:41 PM
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To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.
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March 19, 2017, 08:09:00 PM
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Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.

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March 19, 2017, 08:14:14 PM
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Tax is not stealing. This is an attempt of redistribution of income with the aim of supporting those who cannot, for whatever reason, to make money. And for the life of the institutions of government need funds. The theft occurs from the Treasury, but it is quite another.
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March 20, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
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Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.

"Helping" someone must be voluntary. For example, if someone is refusing to work and is applying for unemployment benefits, why should the other working individuals support that person? Also, if the government want to import third world immigrants to the country, why should the tax payer bear the expenses for the same?

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March 20, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
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Direct taxing is fine in a civilised society I guess. Bureaucrats need to get paid too. But indirect taxing is ridiculous so either tax income or tax what we buy but not both.
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March 20, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
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Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.

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This is one of the core things about taxes that people don't understand and they feel their money is just going to the greedy people up in Washington (or whatever country you're in) and is just going straight to waste. But the people are unable to see the Police, Fire Department, Security, and so on that if they didn't have these services it would just cause the anarchy in a country to occur.

But one of the things that does bother people about taxes is the amount of money that is wasted by the government on things that the people really don't want to see nor do they feel is going to be worth the usage of their money on, this would be things such as controversial as Foreign aid (to certain countries), Supporting things such as Abortion / Anti Abortion, and so on.

People just want to see oversight of the money in which they work hard for to be in the government, it's simple and it's something the government is going to have to do.







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March 21, 2017, 05:43:11 AM
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To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.

Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.


We had studied recently studied about taxation. Taxation is the "lifeblood" of a government/country. Yes, you are right about what you had said. Taxation is not a theft as it is our "duty" to pay our taxes. Some of us didn't know that we are paying taxes; like buying in grocery stores (VAT), or paying cedula (in our country). And the money collected from these taxes are distributed to the local government units for them to use in building projects for the benefit of us people. No government can stand without taxation.
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March 21, 2017, 05:46:01 AM
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To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.

Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.


We had studied recently studied about taxation. Taxation is the "lifeblood" of a government/country. Yes, you are right about what you had said. Taxation is not a theft as it is our "duty" to pay our taxes. Some of us didn't know that we are paying taxes; like buying in grocery stores (VAT), or paying cedula (in our country). And the money collected from these taxes are distributed to the local government units for them to use in building projects for the benefit of us people. No government can stand without taxation.

Right. Government needs tax money to make wars. If all taxation ceased, there wouldn't be any wars.

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March 28, 2017, 03:35:44 PM
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No! Technically you're in debt. So you owe them because government paid for your education, which clearly was money wasted since you say absurd things like ‘taxes are theft

Or I sometimes I say “Then keep your money and go live in a jungle, in a nice comfortable tree” because taxes are the price we pay to live in civilization with education, healthcare(unless you're America) roads, cops (who you gonna call when the tiger chases you) fire departments (your tree is on fire) and many more services.
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March 29, 2017, 12:04:17 AM
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You are probably right but its still helpful for the government to make roads, infastructures, and other necessities of thie country. It still depends on the person on the government who wants to make theft. He should realize that is not stealing from the government but otherwise he is stealing from his countrymen.
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