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April 10, 2017, 01:19:26 PM
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tax is need to pay for infracture  but too much taxation yes is theft
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April 10, 2017, 01:24:46 PM
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tax is need to pay for infracture  but too much taxation yes is theft
I believe that the tax should not exceed 10%. All that is over is theft. It seems to me that this amount is sufficient to contain any state.
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April 10, 2017, 01:30:37 PM
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Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.

Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.

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April 11, 2017, 05:49:30 AM
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Taxation is good when it is really going to the countries development and for it's people. Of course the rich countries budget is enough to supply the projects and needs of people, but in some countries taxation is implemented to sustain some needs and to give it back to the indigents.

Taxation can be called theft because of the officials that is greedy in money and corrupting the country to sustain their personal desires.
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April 11, 2017, 05:59:03 AM
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Those people that evading to pay taxes are the thieves.
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April 11, 2017, 06:13:40 AM
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I think the tax thief is the one who took the RIGHT people to the facility should be able to be felt by society. because the tax actually comes from the people, by the people and for the people.
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April 11, 2017, 06:24:39 AM
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Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.

Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.

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It is a different thing but similar.

Donating you do spontaneously to address a one time issue.

Taxation is a sort of way of saying that a well run government adds value to an economy. If there were none of the services that government provides then you would struggle to make any income.

The problem is that government is clumsy and wasteful, and corruption is rampant, so what should be a simple moderate tax, like 5%, is instead some complicated mass of jumbled numbers that nobody can really figure out.
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April 11, 2017, 07:17:41 AM
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Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
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That is the fact and taxation is a kind of forced donation claiming to use that for the general good of a country and if you look at tax free heavens like major Arab nations even without a single tax they are having a good time running the country without any hurdle and how come that is possible but the rest of the countries cannot do even with high amount of tax. Every country has to come up with innovative ideas to make the economy to sustain rather than squeezing the working class.

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April 11, 2017, 10:31:41 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
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April 11, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?
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April 11, 2017, 11:36:32 AM
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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?
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April 11, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?
I think this example is not correct. The state does not come with arms to take it off your taxes. They ask you to buy something that you don't need at a very expensive price.
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April 11, 2017, 01:58:40 PM
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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?
I think this example is not correct. The state does not come with arms to take it off your taxes. They ask you to buy something that you don't need at a very expensive price.

Try abstaining from paying taxes and I'm pretty sure some big guys with arms will show up to detain you. My example goes further. If I confront you and force you to buy my socks for 40% of everything you have on you, did I steal or did I simply ask (essentially force, just like the state) you to buy what you didn't need, for a price you didn't want to pay?
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April 11, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?
I think this example is not correct. The state does not come with arms to take it off your taxes. They ask you to buy something that you don't need at a very expensive price.

Try abstaining from paying taxes and I'm pretty sure some big guys with arms will show up to detain you. My example goes further. If I confront you and force you to buy my socks for 40% of everything you have on you, did I steal or did I simply ask (essentially force, just like the state) you to buy what you didn't need, for a price you didn't want to pay?
We are responsible for your choice. If the majority vote for politicians, robbers, or you obey the majority, or leave for another country. The choice is yours.
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April 11, 2017, 02:11:57 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

In certain countries such as Germany and Sweden, the tax rate is above 50% if you take in to account the indirect taxes. Personally, I believe that a reasonable rate of income tax may be around 10% to 15%. On top of that, the government should have a VAT at 5% to 15%, depending on the type of commodity. Capital gains tax must be scrapped, as it is similar to double taxation.
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April 11, 2017, 02:14:18 PM
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I philosophically believe that taxation is theft. However, I'm still for taxation, but only for pretty essential stuff. No tax money for high school/college, churches, museums, etc.

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

If I walk up to you with a gun and forcibly takes 40% of your money, is it theft?
I think this example is not correct. The state does not come with arms to take it off your taxes. They ask you to buy something that you don't need at a very expensive price.

Try abstaining from paying taxes and I'm pretty sure some big guys with arms will show up to detain you. My example goes further. If I confront you and force you to buy my socks for 40% of everything you have on you, did I steal or did I simply ask (essentially force, just like the state) you to buy what you didn't need, for a price you didn't want to pay?
We are responsible for your choice. If the majority vote for politicians, robbers, or you obey the majority, or leave for another country. The choice is yours.
That'd allow the majority to rule over the minority, and it'd still essentially be theft. I personally have no problem with paying taxes, although I believe they could be lowered. I live in a democratic socialist state, go figure. Smiley
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April 11, 2017, 04:03:32 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state.
If taxes are 50% of your income or more then I believe that is theft. It seems to me that the government spends so much money inefficiently. What is that but theft?

In certain countries such as Germany and Sweden, the tax rate is above 50% if you take in to account the indirect taxes. Personally, I believe that a reasonable rate of income tax may be around 10% to 15%. On top of that, the government should have a VAT at 5% to 15%, depending on the type of commodity. Capital gains tax must be scrapped, as it is similar to double taxation.

Future of taxation is premine.
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April 11, 2017, 04:39:17 PM
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You can SMELL the greed right across the planet ..
The smell comes more from AMERICA       it leaves a bitter taste in ones mouth ..

Now a lesson for greedy people Wink..

Is it fair ? .
When you was growing up you would use the roads the police the firemen the army the schools the community I.E family friends ..
You had these pleasures in your life growing up because other people payed or put there future children in debt or payed there taxes for you to have your life..

Now you grow up and become successful in business DO you not think you should pay your taxes so other future children have the same chance as you.

Nice roads for businesses to thrive .    Nice communities for people to buy  ..Nice schools for people to be well educated <create new companies.

Now if all these rich people don't pay taxes what will happen to a community..?

Remember not every city can build cars. 
Not every city can do finance   so some cities will have labour that will never compete with other cities   so those cities will be poorer .

Now some cities say why should we pay to help other cities ?..London say it all the EFIN time..

Well you are aloud to do so well because as a country as a whole if we go to war YOU LONDON AND THE LIKE  will be crying your efin eyes out for the rest of your population to help you kill the enemy..

YOU SELL BECAUSE YOUR COUNTRY IS STABLE..Why?..because we have an army..

If  London is on it's own as a country what's stopping someone invading your SHITTY CITY... LONDON...

So you want to keep all the money as a city BUT when we have a WAR you want us all to die THE SAME and help LONDON
when London wouldn't help the rest LIVE..

YES FK YOU LONDON cheeky greedy fks..  LONDON IS A SAVE CITY BECAUSE AS A WHOLE COUNTRY WE MAKE IT SAFE..THE ARMY..


SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT Wink..SNOOTY SNOBBY FKS
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April 11, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
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Can every city in your country make or do what the next city does?..ANSWER NO..
So as a country you all split the money I.E profits..WHY because your a country that if war breaks out you all club together..

So that's why tax is needed some cities will thrive some wont..Not every city can do well it's impossible..

Well not impossible if we had a universal income..
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April 11, 2017, 05:15:42 PM
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UNIVERSAL INCOME ..The only way the planet will work a UNIVERSAL INCOME..


Universal income universal income  universal income  ..I will drum it in your brains  a universal income a universal income..

If we don't say good bye to mankind Wink IT'S GAME OVER ..
Be so much war that the planet will set off the nukes and we will all be dead even the ones hiding in new Zealand ..

And don't think because your a leader I.E A ROBBING TURD   Wink  that you wont die  ..YOU WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO DIE..

We can see that all this war BOLLOCKS is to line your thieving pockets..ARMY KNOWS IT .The PEOPLE KNOW IT..

WE THE PEOPLE are getting sick of your greedy games..You put our future children in debt and also war Angry Angry..

THIS TIME YOU LEADERS WILL BE JOINING US ON THE BATTLE FIELD ..

If we have civil war the young people will have a field day looting the rich ..Mansions smashed to bits golf courses like a battle rubble zone..

And the leaders who hide will be hunted down to be killed..

YES ALL THIS IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF GREED..

And here i am trying to get my child well educated so she can do well in the world..And possibly for WHAT?. what future will these greedy fks give them..

A Detroit city life?..Because the way things are going because of greedy fks most of the planet will be like Detroit..

WE AS A PEOPLE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

SOON THE REVOLUTION WILL BE COMING ..And your homes are in danger ..

Oh i got a gun in my home you rich say ..Well you need 100 people in it too because about 300 people will be ransacking your homes with guns..

If you go and do your history you will see it's happened many a time..

What is the police going to do and the army ?..Our sons and daughters are in these forces ..And they are poor too..




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