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July 07, 2017, 08:48:25 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

No.  Definitely not.  Taxation itself is not theft. Its on how the government collects and use it that makes it theft. But even with the corrupt government,  taxation is still the blood of society.  Every government services either satisfactory or not is served because of our taxes.  The roads,  schools,  safety patrols,  traffic controls,  public developments,  and etc are made possible because of tax.  I know you might think that our taxes are not going anywhere because we cant see massive development.  We cant see it because it is very subtle.  What our taxes do is maintaining what we already have and  slowly improving the community.  Our taxes,  if in good governement and handled well is very helpful in improving our lives

Is taxation consensual? Are you forced or is it voluntary.

Plenty of things in this world are funded without force. What makes you believe everything can't be funded without force?

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July 07, 2017, 09:56:13 AM
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Taxation is a theft if the collected taxes are not using it for the good of the people. Taxation is good if the stakeholders are getting benefits from it.

That's like saying that rape is good if the woman has an orgasm.

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July 07, 2017, 10:14:02 AM
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Taxation is a theft if the collected taxes are not using it for the good of the people. Taxation is good if the stakeholders are getting benefits from it.

That's like saying that rape is good if the woman has an orgasm.

Can't put it any better than this. IMO, taxation should be decentralized. In a village, the inhabitants would have a referendum, to decide whether they want taxes or not. If they decides against the tax, then the infrastructural projects can be given to private companies. For example, you can ask someone to build a road. In return, he will be allowed to levy a toll for the first 10 years from the users.

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July 07, 2017, 10:43:02 AM
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Taxation is rape without the sex.

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July 07, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
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No, I don't think its theft. Tax is use to develop roads, schools and other government project for  our convenience. It only become  theft when government officials get our tax to full their pockets.

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July 07, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
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Taxation is a not theft.
The benefit of taxation is what are seeing as roads, good waters, schools and other projects Government put in place for the public except the corrupt Government.
No. Absolutely, taxation is a not a theft.
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July 07, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
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No, I don't think its theft. Tax is use to develop roads, schools and other government project for  our convenience. It only become  theft when government officials get our tax to full their pockets.

If Mother Theresa was born because her mother was raped....would the rape be ok because it resulted in something good?

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July 07, 2017, 03:11:13 PM
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Taxation is not theft or an act of thieving. Taxation is our share that we must give back to society that transforms into  government welfare services and others.

Taxation is not a theft.  Tax that are collected can be use as fund to create a new projects that can be useful in the society. Theft are those officials who are corrupt and use the prepared budjet for their own interest.

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July 07, 2017, 03:18:02 PM
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No, I don't think its theft. Tax is use to develop roads, schools and other government project for  our convenience. It only become  theft when government officials get our tax to full their pockets.

It becomes theft when if you don't pay it, you will be treated with aggression until you do, or end up in prison.

Government employees do fill their pockets, they award contracts to their friends for kickbacks, they monopolize industries, etc.  Not all the time, but it definitely does happen often enough to know the government is not benevolent.  It's a group of people trying to keep a job.  
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July 07, 2017, 10:58:40 PM
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Taxation cannot be said to be a theft. It is a matter of a law. There establishs law on soon may phenomenons just like taxation and is ought to be obeyed.  The idea or political philosophy that taxation is a theft cannot be sustained because personally I have my doubt on that viewpoint. When people choose to have a government they invariably give up there rights and empowered the government to make law and tax law is not an exception.
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July 08, 2017, 05:03:17 AM
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No, I don't think its theft. Tax is use to develop roads, schools and other government project for  our convenience. It only become  theft when government officials get our tax to full their pockets.

It becomes theft when if you don't pay it, you will be treated with aggression until you do, or end up in prison.

Government employees do fill their pockets, they award contracts to their friends for kickbacks, they monopolize industries, etc.  Not all the time, but it definitely does happen often enough to know the government is not benevolent.  It's a group of people trying to keep a job.  

Yup... in my country also, most of the tax revenue is going towards feeding the government employees. And these people are the most corrupt lot. Despite getting fat salaries from the government, they demand bribes every time we contact them.

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July 08, 2017, 05:24:27 AM
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Taxation cannot be said to be a theft. It is a matter of a law. There establishs law on soon may phenomenons just like taxation and is ought to be obeyed.  The idea or political philosophy that taxation is a theft cannot be sustained because personally I have my doubt on that viewpoint. When people choose to have a government they invariably give up there rights and empowered the government to make law and tax law is not an exception.

When does one choose to have a government?

I do not consent.

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Taxation is a theft, because in many countries rulers live very richly in contrast to ordinary people and use this money for their own purposes. I for that to cancel taxes.
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July 08, 2017, 12:13:25 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us
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July 08, 2017, 12:32:22 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us

Are taxes voluntary?

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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

Tax is not a form of theft because it is use to improve the city and lessen the debt owned by the country. It will be considered theft if the ones who collected the taxes use it for personal gain, only corrupt polition take granted for the taxes paid by us
Only you left out the fact that if the government will use all collected taxes on purpose that the state has no debt. Have you seen one poor Minister? In power there's no poor people, and must be so to the poor was not at all. Then taxes and debt will not.
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

In my own opinion, taxation in any sense is not a form of theft because all the money came from the taxes if for the improvement of the city or of the country as a whole, it is also used to pay ones country's debt in the world bank. The only thing bad about taxes is when the politician monopolizes taxes for self interest and gain, that can be said as a theft because he robbed the money we pay for our own country
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Taxes are a hidden kind of theft that legally obliges all citizens to pay money. But when citizens need help in trouble, the state in some countries will not even think of helping someone who for many years has been paying taxes for being thrown out.

You cant just blindly claim that taxes = theft; you shouldn't generalize not only in this topic but also in every topic.

It's different for every country and for every government. Taxes are and should be used to pay for economical, government property issues, etc. Not because alot of country's governments are corrupt, it doesn't mean that all of them are. I like to be optimistic and think that there are a few national governments out there that are actually using tax money good and right. 

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Taxes are a hidden kind of theft that legally obliges all citizens to pay money. But when citizens need help in trouble, the state in some countries will not even think of helping someone who for many years has been paying taxes for being thrown out.

You cant just blindly claim that taxes = theft; you shouldn't generalize not only in this topic but also in every topic.

It's different for every country and for every government. Taxes are and should be used to pay for economical, government property issues, etc. Not because alot of country's governments are corrupt, it doesn't mean that all of them are. I like to be optimistic and think that there are a few national governments out there that are actually using tax money good and right. 

It does not matter what the money is spent on.

Are taxes voluntary in any country?

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July 09, 2017, 02:11:29 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

I think from what I have see and read online the IRS technically can't tax you because they are federal, but the local/state can since they directly represent you. Though good luck challenging that, it won't work lol.
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