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July 18, 2017, 01:22:11 PM |
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Taxation isn't theft, its the cost of living in society and you definitely do have a say on your taxes because you can choose who you vote for.
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July 22, 2017, 02:37:34 PM |
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Not really but people whose control the system are the real theft so sad bad truth. If resources were better distribuited the goverment will have a good reputation.
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July 22, 2017, 04:52:11 PM |
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Your labor is your property. Your pay for your labor is still your property because you simply made a trade, thereby converting your property into money. The taking of your money without your knowing, and willful volunteering of it is theft. Money volunteered in the form that is called "taxes" is donation, not tax. Money unwillingly given because the giving is forced on you is taxation. The forcing makes it theft. The twisting of language into legal form that gives Government supposed authority to steal your money in the form of taxes is fraud.
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July 22, 2017, 05:21:05 PM |
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If your government is using for good governance then it is good to pay your tax but if your leaders are embezzling the tax payers money the I don't you should be pay tax to them. Many countries are passing through financial and unemployment difficulties today because of their leaders miss management of tax payers fund.
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July 22, 2017, 05:30:36 PM |
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If your government is using for good governance then it is good to pay your tax but if your leaders are embezzling the tax payers money the I don't you should be pay tax to them. Many countries are passing through financial and unemployment difficulties today because of their leaders miss management of tax payers fund.
If your government doesn't itemize their services, and let you BUY the services that you want, and not buy the services you don't want, with a receipt showing where your money went, they are embezzling your money from you. Taxes are not only theft. They are embezzlement.
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July 22, 2017, 08:31:02 PM |
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They are important for nations, but many times they abuse of them and become thefts...
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Elwar
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July 22, 2017, 10:45:04 PM |
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They are important for nations, but many times they abuse of them and become thefts...
Someone taking something from someone without their consent does not "become theft" depending upon how they then spend that stolen money. The act itself is what classifies it as theft. Not actions taken afterwards.
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July 22, 2017, 10:49:38 PM |
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I do feel like tax is theft. But mostly because the amount that I get taxed is way too large and I get no saying whatsoever in how my tax money gets used. Most of it gets spent on absolute bullshit that is detrimental to society and the environment, so even if it wasn't theft, it would still be a crime to this entire planet.
We need a tax system in which every tax payer can allocate portions of their tax to different proposed projects. Think of a tax-portfolio. If garbage isn't disposed of properly, then people will reallocate parts of their tax into that area until it's fixed. If governments spend too much on a politician's private hairdresser or their pens (lolGermany/France), then people can take out some of their "politician utilities" tax allocations and shift them elsewhere.
But as is, tax is a necessary evil that is left-over from a time that we should've long moved on from.
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July 23, 2017, 12:33:04 AM |
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
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July 23, 2017, 12:44:44 AM |
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
This. Always obey authority. They know what is best. Not you, peasant.
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profitgenerator212
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July 23, 2017, 12:48:03 AM |
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
This. Always obey authority. They know what is best. Not you, peasant. I mean clearly these rookie tax agents are fogetting the part that honest taxpayers have funded the Nazi Holocaust, and the Soviet Gulag atrocities. They clearly have no problem with taxation, they think nothing bad can ever happen out of it..
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Elwar
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July 23, 2017, 12:49:26 AM |
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
This. Always obey authority. They know what is best. Not you, peasant. I mean clearly these rookie tax agents are fogetting the part that honest taxpayers have funded the Nazi Holocaust, and the Soviet Gulag atrocities. They clearly have no problem with taxation, they think nothing bad can ever happen out of it.. What could possibly go wrong?
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July 23, 2017, 12:50:14 AM |
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Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
Disobeying is not always a bad thing. It depends upon your action why are you disobeying. I live in a small place where in politicians are having a good life from the taxes we are paying. They get a lot of taxes from us, they start making projects but, most of the money are not going to the project but going into their hands, they are corrupting the money we give them, in short, they are living from our taxes. I am not saying all the government officials are like this, but they are taking advantage of their positions.
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July 23, 2017, 01:41:44 AM |
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July 23, 2017, 02:28:24 AM |
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I believe taxation is no theft until the tax being posted is not computed right. We all know that most of the tax assesor take advantage of other people in terms of computation since it's their forte and some of us didn't know it.
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July 23, 2017, 03:14:30 AM |
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I personally do not see it as theft, just more like paying into a system.
You can always move to another country that has laws you more agree with.
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July 23, 2017, 07:41:54 AM |
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I personally do not see it as theft, just more like paying into a system.
You can always move to another country that has laws you more agree with.
Yeah, but they will still be shit and have corrupt fuckheads in charge. As long as the Blockchain or a similar decentralized technology isn't used to clear out how and where tax money is spent governments will simply be a fucking parasite that can't be stomped out because too many people just simply don't care at about the world that they live in. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you understand the rules and know how to play the game, but it's still a disgrace that something that calls itself a public servant is just a scam artist.
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July 23, 2017, 08:09:17 AM |
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NO. Its a way that the government gets funds so they improve the country and develop stuff for our own benefits and comfort
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July 23, 2017, 08:25:28 AM |
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In our country, money that is intended for taxes is used by rulers for their own purposes, the authorities do not care about ordinary citizens. I think that in many countries there is a theft in the form of taxes.
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July 23, 2017, 08:28:46 AM |
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NO. Its a way that the government gets funds so they improve the country and develop stuff for our own benefits and comfort
That is true, but only in theory. In reality things are vastly different and a lot of or even most of the money is wasted on inefficient bullshit or greedy/corrupt assholes.
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