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January 07, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
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Normally stolen goods are illegal in consequence, if not returned to their rightful owners; so an expert opinion from a qualified lawyer would be a good thing indeed.

Coins are not goods, and they were returned to our community, so they are not stolen at the moment.
Of course, now when they are returned, only their rightful owners can decide what to do with them, otherwise, they really will be stolen.

But another thing is that coins in fact were blocked/frozen, so it's like they are out of supply and are 'unofficial coins' now.
Remember that investors were investing because they believed these coins were frozen, maybe the price of Mooncoin never went to these levels without that,
so to 'unfreeze' them means that the decision-makers of this could be held liable for the loss of these investors afterwards.

So these coins are not Mooncoins, they are 'unofficial, frozen Mooncoins' which should be burnt, just to stay out of supply forever.

The original freezing was already doubtful (that's most probably why Cryptopia removed Mooncoin from their exchange), but as said, now is a new situation, because the stolen coins are available again and are still - exactly as when they were frozen - stolen goods.

Ask your lawyer.

Cryptopia explained why they removed Mooncoin, you can find it at the end of previous ANN thread. It had nothing in common with frozen coins.
The community decided to freeze coins to prevent spending them after they were not delivered to the court and to their owners.
Coins were frozen. Now the protection was hacked, it's a technical question. These coins are not real coins. The protection should be improved by burning these coins.
But if anyone wants to receive his/her coins back, and can prove his/her ownership, there can be a solution for that.
If not, what are we talking about?

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January 07, 2018, 12:46:55 AM
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The original freezing was already doubtful (that's most probably why Cryptopia removed Mooncoin from their exchange), but as said, now is a new situation, because the stolen coins are available again and are still - exactly as when they were frozen - stolen goods.

Ask your lawyer.

it's not on cryptopia, because hex and i do not like each other.
having the upper hand (owning the exchange), he chose to act like a child knowing it would cause me some grief.. having just come onboard as the new dev at the time.

nothing to do with the freezing; no other exchanges have had an issue either morally or legally with it.

james

We all can't really check, what is the truth about removing Mooncoin from Cryptopia, it seemed odd back in the time. We would need Hex to give his opinion on this here, too.
Fact is, the coins are available again. Hopefully in the hands of a responsible person. And what I'm trying to say is, that we should not require that this one person (Vassilis) possibly becomes a criminal, only because some of the Mooncoin-holders do not want that the price may(!!) drop a little bit, because the authorities (whoever that is) decide to sell that stash in the far future. Bitcoin is also still doing well, despite of some authorities selling coins. Mooncoin is strong, don't forget that.

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January 07, 2018, 12:46:59 AM
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Normally stolen goods are illegal in consequence, if not returned to their rightful owners; so an expert opinion from a qualified lawyer would be a good thing indeed.

Coins are not goods, and they were returned to our community, so they are not stolen at the moment.
Of course, now when they are returned, only their rightful owners can decide what to do with them, otherwise, they really will be stolen.

But another thing is that coins in fact were blocked/frozen, so it's like they are out of supply and are 'unofficial coins' now.
Remember that investors were investing because they believed these coins were frozen, maybe the price of Mooncoin never went to these levels without that,
so to 'unfreeze' them means that the decision-makers of this could be held liable for the loss of these investors afterwards.

So these coins are not Mooncoins, they are 'unofficial, frozen Mooncoins' which should be burnt, just to stay out of supply forever.

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January 07, 2018, 12:59:17 AM
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Normally stolen goods are illegal in consequence, if not returned to their rightful owners; so an expert opinion from a qualified lawyer would be a good thing indeed.

Coins are not goods, and they were returned to our community, so they are not stolen at the moment.
Of course, now when they are returned, only their rightful owners can decide what to do with them, otherwise, they really will be stolen.

But another thing is that coins in fact were blocked/frozen, so it's like they are out of supply and are 'unofficial coins' now.
Remember that investors were investing because they believed these coins were frozen, maybe the price of Mooncoin never went to these levels without that,
so to 'unfreeze' them means that the decision-makers of this could be held liable for the loss of these investors afterwards.

So these coins are not Mooncoins, they are 'unofficial, frozen Mooncoins' which should be burnt, just to stay out of supply forever.

The original freezing was already doubtful (that's most probably why Cryptopia removed Mooncoin from their exchange), but as said, now is a new situation, because the stolen coins are available again and are still - exactly as when they were frozen - stolen goods.

Ask your lawyer.

Cryptopia explained why they removed Mooncoin, you can find it at the end of previous ANN thread. It had nothing in common with frozen coins.
The community decided to freeze coins to prevent spending them after they were not delivered to the court and to their owners.
Coins were frozen. Now the protection was hacked, it's a technical question. These coins are not real coins. The protection should be improved by burning these coins.
But if anyone wants to receive his/her coins back, and can prove his/her ownership, there can be a solution for that.
If not, what are we talking about?


Let's wait what Vassilis (and especially his lawyers) says.
Maybe the suggestion of amdk is something for Vassilis to consider:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733963.msg27617587#msg27617587

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January 07, 2018, 01:08:36 AM
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what new with this coin?

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January 07, 2018, 01:08:44 AM
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Let's wait what Vassilis (and especially his lawyers) says.
Maybe the suggestion of amdk is something for Vassilis to consider:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733963.msg27617587#msg27617587

theres no 'offline' for cryptocurrency, it will always remain on the chain - your ability to use it is determined by you owning the correct private key to the funds. better thought of as a lease, you never actually own it as a tangible asset; as thousands of other people running nodes would have the exact same information thats available to you.

if someone else had the private key, what could you do about it?
whether or not it is your 'perceived good', you only have the ability to use it through a client.

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January 07, 2018, 01:36:21 AM
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Hi my Moonies friends, as there is room for all in my heart, just to remind that BTA BATA was updated, just like XCXT new Devs and was Wallets updated.

infos :

https://community.coinonatx.io/

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2678424

old thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2147025.840

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/coinonatx/


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http://www.bata.io

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2297895.0

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bata/



Max Supply
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Pools or hodl  Roll Eyes




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January 07, 2018, 01:43:20 AM
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Hi my Moonies friends, just to remind that BTA BATA was updated, just like XCXT new Devs and was Wallet updated.

infos :

https://community.coinonatx.io/

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2678424

old thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2147025.840

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/coinonatx/


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BTA (2015)

http://www.bata.io

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2297895.0

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bata/



Max Supply
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Pools or hodl  Roll Eyes





roger that ,always be moon fans ,hold my coins long term

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January 07, 2018, 01:50:39 AM
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Hi,

is it possible to list mooncoin at bittrex?

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January 07, 2018, 01:55:26 AM
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Hi my Moonies friends, as there is room for all in my heart, just to remind that BTA BATA was updated, just like XCXT new Devs and was Wallets updated.

infos :

https://community.coinonatx.io/

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2678424

old thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2147025.840

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/coinonatx/


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BTA (2015)

http://www.bata.io

new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2297895.0

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bata/



Max Supply
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roger that ,always be moon fans ,hold my coins long term

hum i'am not roger and i'am not billionaire  Undecided  that said if you want to change that then ok send my all crypto of your choice  Roll Eyes


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January 07, 2018, 02:42:21 AM
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Hi Can anyone help with stuck Mooncoin on the  http://wallet.moonrush.org wallet. There is no way for me to access that site anymore. I had 1 million coins and now they are worth a decent amount to me and would really like to know if anything is possible at all to get them back. I contacted barrysty1e and had no reply as of yet. I appreciate if anyone can help me
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January 07, 2018, 02:45:10 AM
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Hi Can anyone help with stuck Mooncoin on the  http://wallet.moonrush.org wallet. There is no way for me to access that site anymore. I had 1 million coins and now they are worth a decent amount to me and would really like to know if anything is possible at all to get them back. I contacted barrysty1e and had no reply as of yet. I appreciate if anyone can help me

the webwallet has not been operational since september, with a warning not to use it for at least a month earlier.
these virtual hosts were eventually scrapped/deleted.

james

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January 07, 2018, 05:54:44 AM
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Good things are coming soon  Wink

http://www.mooncoin.world/#mooncoin-reward-schedule
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January 07, 2018, 06:18:36 AM
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Hi Can anyone help with stuck Mooncoin on the  http://wallet.moonrush.org wallet. There is no way for me to access that site anymore. I had 1 million coins and now they are worth a decent amount to me and would really like to know if anything is possible at all to get them back. I contacted barrysty1e and had no reply as of yet. I appreciate if anyone can help me

the webwallet has not been operational since september, with a warning not to use it for at least a month earlier.
these virtual hosts were eventually scrapped/deleted.

james

Thank you for the reply. That means my coins are forever lost correct? If that's the case fair enough it's my mistake leaving them there
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January 07, 2018, 08:40:34 AM
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hi james
i did the above getrawtransaction with the number and i get back  :  

No information available about transaction (code -5)


so i do a rescan ?

yep, easily achievable by adding -rescan to the program parameters of your mooncoin shortcut.
just remember to remove it once you've rescanned, its a pain to do it a few times in a row because you didnt remove it Smiley


oke i will i do it trough command , i let you now the results, iam of to bed now its midnight here ;-)  thanks


james i did the rescan :  now i see in transactions : not confirmed  :  0/ not confirmed not in memorypool   ( Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel )

did i lost my 300K here ?


total of that transaction :

Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel    [0/ not confirmed not in memorypool]
Date: 1-6-2018 11:39
to: Bleutrade deposit [here my bluetrade mooncoin deposit adress] [ not discribe here for safety if needed i wil put it here)
Debet: -300 000.00000000 MOON
Transactioncost: -0.01078000 MOON
Netto amount: -300 000.01078000 MOON
Transactie-ID: 742979eeef9719b998ee35f8687f0f3b3e77ae3f023f6919b5fdf3684e508d63
Output index: 0

sou need a little more help here to get them back or to bluetrade ;-)

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January 07, 2018, 09:34:00 AM
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hi james
i did the above getrawtransaction with the number and i get back  :  

No information available about transaction (code -5)


so i do a rescan ?

yep, easily achievable by adding -rescan to the program parameters of your mooncoin shortcut.
just remember to remove it once you've rescanned, its a pain to do it a few times in a row because you didnt remove it Smiley


oke i will i do it trough command , i let you now the results, iam of to bed now its midnight here ;-)  thanks


james i did the rescan :  now i see in transactions : not confirmed  :  0/ not confirmed not in memorypool   ( Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel )

did i lost my 300K here ?


total of that transaction :

Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel    [0/ not confirmed not in memorypool]
Date: 1-6-2018 11:39
to: Bleutrade deposit [here my bluetrade mooncoin deposit adress] [ not discribe here for safety if needed i wil put it here)
Debet: -300 000.00000000 MOON
Transactioncost: -0.01078000 MOON
Netto amount: -300 000.01078000 MOON
Transactie-ID: 742979eeef9719b998ee35f8687f0f3b3e77ae3f023f6919b5fdf3684e508d63
Output index: 0

sou need a little more help here to get them back or to bluetrade ;-)


You put a very little transacion cost. So just wait.
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January 07, 2018, 09:47:57 AM
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hi james
i did the above getrawtransaction with the number and i get back  :  

No information available about transaction (code -5)


so i do a rescan ?

yep, easily achievable by adding -rescan to the program parameters of your mooncoin shortcut.
just remember to remove it once you've rescanned, its a pain to do it a few times in a row because you didnt remove it Smiley


oke i will i do it trough command , i let you now the results, iam of to bed now its midnight here ;-)  thanks


james i did the rescan :  now i see in transactions : not confirmed  :  0/ not confirmed not in memorypool   ( Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel )

did i lost my 300K here ?


total of that transaction :

Status: 0/onbevestigd, niet in geheugenpoel    [0/ not confirmed not in memorypool]
Date: 1-6-2018 11:39
to: Bleutrade deposit [here my bluetrade mooncoin deposit adress] [ not discribe here for safety if needed i wil put it here)
Debet: -300 000.00000000 MOON
Transactioncost: -0.01078000 MOON
Netto amount: -300 000.01078000 MOON
Transactie-ID: 742979eeef9719b998ee35f8687f0f3b3e77ae3f023f6919b5fdf3684e508d63
Output index: 0

sou need a little more help here to get them back or to bluetrade ;-)


You put a very little transacion cost. So just wait.


ah oke tel me how to change that , what i just did was to zapwallettxes  and did the coins back , so tel me how to adjust the fees


btw i use the recommended fees according the wallet


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January 07, 2018, 10:34:37 AM
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Hi Guys,

i need help, i decide to start mining Mooncoin, its look realy nice to me and whont to try but i have problems.

I take windows wallet and its up to date set new adres to get coins, so this part its working.

I download cgminer 3.7.2, i have radeon card and cpu i5.

I read its ok to mine on https://aikapool.com/moon/index.php?page=gettingstarted and set cgminer like its on this link

so my comand line look like this   cgminer --scrypt -I 13 -o stratum+tcp://stratum.aikapool.com:7975 -u zucoos.domba -p 12345

but I get this:

http://pyrius-informatika.hr/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/moon-problem.jpg

If this its not good for mining pleas advice with setings.

Pleas help!

Thanks in advance!
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January 07, 2018, 11:38:04 AM
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Hi Can anyone help with stuck Mooncoin on the  http://wallet.moonrush.org wallet. There is no way for me to access that site anymore. I had 1 million coins and now they are worth a decent amount to me and would really like to know if anything is possible at all to get them back. I contacted barrysty1e and had no reply as of yet. I appreciate if anyone can help me

the webwallet has not been operational since september, with a warning not to use it for at least a month earlier.
these virtual hosts were eventually scrapped/deleted.

james

Thank you for the reply. That means my coins are forever lost correct? If that's the case fair enough it's my mistake leaving them there


Please read the message below from another user who retrieved his coins in the same situation:

Hi guys

http://wallet.moonrush.org/brainwallet_moon.html >> link is no longer working?

can someone help me on this


ii) Once you've copied this; visit http://wallet.moonrush.org/brainwallet_moon.html and paste the brainwallet phrase into 'passphrase' - then click toggle key to reveal your private key. <<

I need my private key but the site is down



Hi guys I got my coins back. Please refer to below on how i did it:

1. If you like me, you stored your mooncoins on wallet.moonrush previously. You probably saved your url like this
http://wallet.moonrush.org/#XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (please dont share this passphrase to anyone)

2. To get access to your mooncoins, you will need to access to your private keys.
please copy your passphrase after the # XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

3. Go to https://walletgenerator.net, choose 'Mooncoin', 'Brain wallet', input your passphrase and you will receive its private key.

4. After that you can import your priv key to the Mooncoin wallet,
by going to Debug-Console and typing this command importprivkey XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXyourprivkey

Many thanks to Mooncoin_Foundation for helping me out. Thank you!

I hope this can help someone in the future. To the moon!


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January 07, 2018, 11:57:27 AM
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Forgive me my ignorance but how the coins were returned? What exactly happened?

Vassilis_Dev are you saying that you are being threaten?
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