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Author Topic: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 51285 funded addresses. 2,162,799 txs. 5 block explorers  (Read 277219 times)
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January 06, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
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What? MOON is mooning after so many years?

Lol not bad.. Too bad I only have like $4 worth of MOON, I never believed in this coin.  Grin
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January 06, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
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I see the coins with a big supply (over the x.xxx.xxx.xxx) are doing well (like Cardano, Bytecoin, Dogecoin and Kin) the last days. What makes the Mooncoin a different coin from this other coins who are in the top 100 now? I am really excited about mooncoin and I believe it will hit 10 dollar cent this year, but in my opinion there are to many competitors.
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January 06, 2018, 02:29:43 PM
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7 SAT on Bluetrade...Coinexchange is following shortly. I like where this is going. My guess is 25-30 SAT within 2 weeks..
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January 06, 2018, 03:04:46 PM
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7 SAT on Bluetrade...Coinexchange is following shortly. I like where this is going. My guess is 25-30 SAT within 2 weeks..
Bluetrade is finally down on Mooncoin tothemoon
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January 06, 2018, 03:12:04 PM
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It is not a hard decision for me (I am the most damaged mooncoin supporter!) I had always thought these coins lost. I love moon and mooncoin comunity! Better burn these coins.

I think that Mooncoin project cannot be better than this, because people involved are fair and honest. This man (beside the fact that in real life we are friends and we live in the same town) is a great person: he was the most damaged in cryptsy affair but he is ready to burn all the stolen coins for a bright future of Mooncoin and its community. Chapeau!!!

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January 06, 2018, 03:13:18 PM
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7 SAT on Bluetrade...Coinexchange is following shortly. I like where this is going. My guess is 25-30 SAT within 2 weeks..
Bluetrade is finally down on Mooncoin tothemoon


what do you mean by that , i did send some mooncoins to my bleutrade moon wallet but it seems that the wallet is offline ? so my mooncoins are  floating the net .....;-(

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January 06, 2018, 03:43:15 PM
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I can't open bleutrade.com.
Error 522 Ray ID: 3d8fc3778c5153ae • 2018-01-06 15:38:48 UTC
Connection timed out
anyone else?
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January 06, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
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I can't open bleutrade.com.
Error 522 Ray ID: 3d8fc3778c5153ae • 2018-01-06 15:38:48 UTC
Connection timed out
anyone else?
Don't worry it's overloaded. Working from time to time.
Moon on 7 now.
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January 06, 2018, 05:19:32 PM
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Hi Gang!
i have downloaded the new mooncoin wallet. i don't have any problems with it, but would like to find some more information about the wallet itself. i am not technical enough to read the source code or anything like that. i would really like to know more about the backup features and where private keys are etc.

i have all my coins on the 2 exchanges at the moment. before i move all of them over, i would obviously like to test the wallet (ie. put a few coins in, back it up, erase it, and restore the back up).

pardon my ignorance, but i am also just looking for more info about the wallet... do you need to back up after every deposit or withdrawal? is there a paper back up or seed?

i have been reading everywhere, and haven't found anything yet (although I'm sure its already been discussed Smiley ). if anyone could point me in the right direction, i  would appreciate it!!


haven't been this excited about a crypto in quite some time!!
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January 06, 2018, 05:22:12 PM
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Hi all,

I've isolated the blocks/transactions that make up the large send, both to Vassilis_dev and to other addresses.
This was done in such a way, that the transaction to Vassillis_dev would stand out (62 billion), but the other approx 120 billion would go unnoticed (!).

The blocks in question are from 1184002 to 1184024; and have been done on an isolated stratum/node, which is given away by the coinbase address '2DupXiBoGw5VEGngUWR4quB3C3kgkTuLYJ' which was only used over a 40 minute period, and never seen again. It almost looks like the blocks were 'prebuilt' with the offending transactions in them, in an attempt to bypass the forbidtx routine (as to avoid mempool).

I've advised the exchanges to treat any transaction originating from these blocks with suspicion.
Additionally, with debugging enabled.. the forbidtx routines have been displaying fairly regularly over the past 2-3 hours.

I will keep you posted on further events,
james


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January 06, 2018, 06:13:09 PM
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Hi all,

I've isolated the blocks/transactions that make up the large send, both to Vassilis_dev and to other addresses.
This was done in such a way, that the transaction to Vassillis_dev would stand out (62 billion), but the other approx 120 billion would go unnoticed (!).

The blocks in question are from 1184002 to 1184024; and have been done on an isolated stratum/node, which is given away by the coinbase address '2DupXiBoGw5VEGngUWR4quB3C3kgkTuLYJ' which was only used over a 40 minute period, and never seen again. It almost looks like the blocks were 'prebuilt' with the offending transactions in them, in an attempt to bypass the forbidtx routine (as to avoid mempool).

I've advised the exchanges to treat any transaction originating from these blocks with suspicion.
Additionally, with debugging enabled.. the forbidtx routines have been displaying fairly regularly over the past 2-3 hours.

I will keep you posted on further events,
james




is this one of the reasons Bleutrade has deposite mooincoin wallet offline ? shoudl they said so that there were been offline? i just sent alot mooncoin to stall there but that deposit adress is offline !!!

did you block my coins ?  i send 300k overthere and now floating in the net !  my bluetrade deposit adres : 2VXvidfjWDMM6Aeai5Z73QVa6gwH8QrS8V  offline ?

and i have notthing to do with those lost coins whatsoever !!

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January 06, 2018, 06:15:17 PM
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is this one of the reasons Bleutrade has deposite mooincoin wallet offline ? shoudl they said so that there were been offline? i just sent alot mooncoin to stall there but that deposit adress is offline !!!

did you block my coins ?  i send 300k overthere and now floating in the net !

if you read above, you'll see bleutrade is currently having issues at the moment; it is quite difficult to get onto the site.
i'd contacted the exchange about 2 hours after your post, so the events are not related.

james
( just for piece of mind, your address does not appear in the 'suspicious' list Smiley )

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January 06, 2018, 06:48:22 PM
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is the AikaPool not up? receiving "stratum_recv_line" from cudaminer...?
Any help -- using: cudaminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.aikapool.com:7975
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January 06, 2018, 07:11:52 PM
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Bluetrade seems to be back..let's hit 8 sat tonight?  Wink
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January 06, 2018, 07:23:11 PM
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Hi all,

I've isolated the blocks/transactions that make up the large send, both to Vassilis_dev and to other addresses.
This was done in such a way, that the transaction to Vassillis_dev would stand out (62 billion), but the other approx 120 billion would go unnoticed (!).

The blocks in question are from 1184002 to 1184024; and have been done on an isolated stratum/node, which is given away by the coinbase address '2DupXiBoGw5VEGngUWR4quB3C3kgkTuLYJ' which was only used over a 40 minute period, and never seen again. It almost looks like the blocks were 'prebuilt' with the offending transactions in them, in an attempt to bypass the forbidtx routine (as to avoid mempool).

I've advised the exchanges to treat any transaction originating from these blocks with suspicion.
Additionally, with debugging enabled.. the forbidtx routines have been displaying fairly regularly over the past 2-3 hours.

I will keep you posted on further events,
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Sounds weird.
I visited block explorers,
Mooncoin has 5 independent block explorers,
you can see Rich list (top addresses) in block explorers easily.
The biggest address with 62 bil is Vassilis's address with Cryptsy coins, we know already that.
I see many other OLD addresses with coins in top 25,
but I don't see 120 bil more coins on new addresses.
Though when there are price movements, coins change their owners fast, so if you mean transactions with small addresses, it's quite normal.
Usually when a price is rising a big percent of supply is changing their owners during just 24 hours, people go to exchange and sell, other buy.
So for now I don't see anything new.
We know that about 80 bil Cryptsy coins were blocked, 62 bil were sent to Vassilis, he was going to burn it,
it's not legal to spend them etc.
They have their legitimate users and these users who had lost more than 60 % of these coins already agreed to burn them, for the bright Mooncoin future.

P.S. spending coins of other people is not legal, even if it's not fiat. Make a research, and you'll see, already there are many cases with BTC and other coins.
But if the community burns its own coins, for the future of MOON, it's not this case.

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January 06, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
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Good afternoon. I think that all will be ok very soon...! Smiley

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January 06, 2018, 07:49:08 PM
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Guys, I apologize for the stupid question Cheesy But I just wanted to insure myself. I have mooncoin address that was generated last summer(or early autumn), I sent my coins on that adress same time. The question is - do I need to send them on new address or I can keep the things as is? Smiley

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January 06, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
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is the AikaPool not up? receiving "stratum_recv_line" from cudaminer...?
Any help -- using: cudaminer -o stratum+tcp://stratum.aikapool.com:7975


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January 06, 2018, 08:58:08 PM
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Sounds weird.
I visited block explorers,
Mooncoin has 5 independent block explorers,
you can see Rich list (top addresses) in block explorers easily.
The biggest address with 62 bil is Vassilis's address with Cryptsy coins, we know already that.
I see many other OLD addresses with coins in top 25,
but I don't see 120 bil more coins on new addresses.
Though when there are price movements, coins change their owners fast, so if you mean transactions with small addresses, it's quite normal.
Usually when a price is rising a big percent of supply is changing their owners during just 24 hours, people go to exchange and sell, other buy.
So for now I don't see anything new.
We know that about 80 bil Cryptsy coins were blocked, 62 bil were sent to Vassilis, he was going to burn it,
it's not legal to spend them etc.
They have their legitimate users and these users who had lost more than 60 % of these coins already agreed to burn them, for the bright Mooncoin future.

P.S. spending coins of other people is not legal, even if it's not fiat. Make a research, and you'll see, already there are many cases with BTC and other coins. But if the community burns its own coins, for the future of MOON, it's not this case.

my apologies, after triple-checking.. the full figure appears to be closer to 90.
the giveaway for most of these transactions is they look like theyve been moved around with a script.
i think that burning the coins is definitely the best way forward; while it would be more satisfying to return them to the owners, this would prove a logistical nightmare, in the case of proving it - and being able to guarantee the forbidtx code would not cause hassles in the future.

however a public burn would instantly reduce the marketcap/circulation; perhaps some people would take reassurance in the fact that it was a lingering problem that is now over once unspendable.
however - i think we will wait for Vassilis to comment as i think we've scared him (not deliberately of course).

i'm currently running the txindex'd chain through a piece of chain mapping software; and i hope to be able to put the results up in public.

james

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January 06, 2018, 09:00:39 PM
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OK, My first post and have a few noob questions and thoughts about this huge supply of Cryptsy coins that landed on Vassilis's wallet.

If the coins are burned, will it decrease the total supply permanently? If that is the case then how is it helpful? I guess the only good thing is, it will have a positive impact on price of Mooncoin as a short term effect.  

From my understanding of previous posts, It is illegal to spend these coins on Vassilis's wallet for further development of Mooncoin in any form or launching new features and projects.

But, is it illegal as they were send to him without his prior knowledge? As this kind of act seems to be a donation of sort. For example, if someone robs a bank with no connection to me and next morning i check my bank account and I see a huge balance in my account as for what ever reason he decided to donate that amount to me because I do help my community anyway I can? So, will it fall under donation money/commodity category and will it be illegal if I use that donation money for the community?

What if an Virtual NGO (non-profit organization) is formed by Vassilis or a custodian/custodians, who Vassilis hands over/donates the aforementioned mooncoin after formation of the VNGO (assuming he does want want the hassle of dealing with it), who will only spend the coins for further/future development of the Mooncoin and projects/promotions relating to it. Will it be illegal to use those coins then?

As I am not an expert, but if indeed coins burned, permanently decreases the total supply of coins, then it is a big loss. If you think this crypto will survive 50/100 years or more, or evolve into something else in future.

We need an expert opinion from a lawyer, before we do anything drastic like decrease total supply.

This is just my own thoughts and sorry about my English as its not my first language Smiley  
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