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February 14, 2018, 12:55:03 AM
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"Hi need a little help with multi Algo mining setup. I use zpool the template setup below is for windows . I just want to switch between blake2s and lyra2v2 whichever is most profitable. I have 2 commands in been using to switch manually
./ccminer -x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH
./ccminer -x64 -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH

how could i merge these two into choosing between the 2 algos? scratching my head a little im using ubuntu and ccminer"


take a look at the main page of zpool.ca and the algo switching section.

its by means of the password;  and setting your miner app to not retry any connections;  and looping them in a batch file to keep trying as the connections get dropped.  Also;  don't forget to normalize or you won't mine what's most profitable for your card.  Instructions to normalize are in the same link mentioned below; it will be in one of the older batch threads.


I also have a series of batch files linked in my sig for controlling the profit switching/algo manually, or automatically.

Link to my batch and script resources here.  

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February 14, 2018, 02:10:41 AM
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What's wrong with DNR.

Surely use DNR address but display Digibyte ?

https://23.imgtrue.com/DNR1c8e25648f599b5d3.jpg
https://23.imgtrue.com/DNR2c66db169b10d94cf.jpg

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ccminer -a tribus -o stratum+tcp://tribus.mine.zpool.ca:8533 -u DEyv5sqYawPphYgaRmdruQdXrWij9cFaGT -p C=DNR


Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

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February 14, 2018, 02:12:15 AM
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What's wrong with DNR.

Surely use DNR address but display Digibyte ?




bat
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ccminer -a tribus -o stratum+tcp://tribus.mine.zpool.ca:8533 -u DEyv5sqYawPphYgaRmdruQdXrWij9cFaGT -p C=DNR


Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

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You mine on an algo.  Stratum picks the coin.

You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Link to my batch and script resources here.  

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February 14, 2018, 02:28:46 AM
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Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

Regards

You mine on an algo.  Stratum picks the coin.

You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Yes, just to reiterate what JaredKaragen wrote, you can pick the algo to mine and you can pick the coin to get paid in, but you can't pick a specific coin to mine. It's a subtle, but important, distinction.

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February 14, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
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You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Yes, I already show my bat.
use address DNR with option C=DNR, mining DNR, but got paid in DGB so I think something wrong.
No problem in other pool.

https://23.imgtrue.com/DNRDGBe60793f44f09de45.png
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February 14, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
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Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?
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February 14, 2018, 11:04:33 AM
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Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

EDIT - Zpool uses the Proportional payout scheme, not PPLNS, so the above comment is irrelevant.
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February 14, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
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Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.







Okay thank you for your asnwer and i will look into your post.

As of your post ill let the algos that take some time to find a blocks ( phi and bitcore as i know of ) still be active and see what will happen. If things dont run well ill just disable em.
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February 14, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
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A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.
...

Now at the 48 hour mark Zpool is just 2% behind NiceHash, with 0.64844 mBTC earned (mature + immature) vs. 0.66167 mBTC for NiceHash*. As I explain more in the above quoted post, any difference in earnings of 5% or less should be considered a tie due to the limitations of my test setup.

I will run this comparison for 1 more day - 3 in total - then I will point a bit more hashpower at Zpool to get my balance above the 2.5 mBTC minimum that is paid out manually several times per week.



* - most of this balance was transferred to the NH wallet and therefore incurred their 2% fee, so a more realistic comparison at this point (said fee is unavoidable).
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February 14, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
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Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

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February 14, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
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You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

don't spread missinformation, check 1st merit @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=209640

Where is the misinformation in my reply? No where on the Zpool website does it state what payment scheme is used and other multi-algo, auto-switching pools do use PPLNS so it was reasonable for me to assume that Zpool did to. Nevertheless, I did write "if...the pool uses the 'PPLNS' payment scheme." which indicates I was not sure what payment scheme is used.

BTW - you could have been a bit more diplomatic - not to say courteous - by merely writing, "Zpool uses the proportional scheme, not PPLNS."

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February 14, 2018, 01:33:25 PM
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You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

don't spread missinformation, check 1st merit @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=209640

Where is the misinformation in my reply? No where on the Zpool website does it state what payment scheme is used and other multi-algo, auto-switching pools do use PPLNS so it was reasonable for me to assume that Zpool did to. Nevertheless, I did write "if...the pool uses the 'PPLNS' payment scheme." which indicates I was not sure what payment scheme is used.

BTW - you could have been a bit more diplomatic - not to say courteous - by merely writing, "Zpool uses the proportional scheme, not PPLNS."



the scheme is PROP not PPLNS

edit... as I see was already corrected Smiley thanks

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February 14, 2018, 01:55:51 PM
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You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

don't spread missinformation, check 1st merit @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=209640

Where is the misinformation in my reply? No where on the Zpool website does it state what payment scheme is used and other multi-algo, auto-switching pools do use PPLNS so it was reasonable for me to assume that Zpool did to. Nevertheless, I did write "if...the pool uses the 'PPLNS' payment scheme." which indicates I was not sure what payment scheme is used.

BTW - you could have been a bit more diplomatic - not to say courteous - by merely writing, "Zpool uses the proportional scheme, not PPLNS."



the scheme is PROP not PPLNS

edit... as I see was already corrected Smiley thanks

So i was right ? If my miner switch from bitcore to another algo that it thinks is more profitable before finding the block ( eg. mining 1  or 2 hours bitcore without finding it ) i mined that time for thin air ?

I better remove those algos then i guess Smiley
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February 14, 2018, 02:55:06 PM
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You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

don't spread missinformation, check 1st merit @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=209640

Where is the misinformation in my reply? No where on the Zpool website does it state what payment scheme is used and other multi-algo, auto-switching pools do use PPLNS so it was reasonable for me to assume that Zpool did to. Nevertheless, I did write "if...the pool uses the 'PPLNS' payment scheme." which indicates I was not sure what payment scheme is used.

BTW - you could have been a bit more diplomatic - not to say courteous - by merely writing, "Zpool uses the proportional scheme, not PPLNS."



the scheme is PROP not PPLNS

edit... as I see was already corrected Smiley thanks

So i was right ? If my miner switch from bitcore to another algo that it thinks is more profitable before finding the block ( eg. mining 1  or 2 hours bitcore without finding it ) i mined that time for thin air ?

I better remove those algos then i guess Smiley

In my experience, if you mine for a certain amount of time, your work is counted until the next block is found, even if you've already moved on to another algo.  However, if you mined for a few minutes, and it took several hours to find a block, your % of work done is going to be much lower than those who were mining the entire time.
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February 14, 2018, 10:28:53 PM
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The pool is reporting hundreds of dollars a day for sha256 again.
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February 15, 2018, 01:01:18 PM
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A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.
...

Now at the 48 hour mark Zpool is just 2% behind NiceHash, with 0.64844 mBTC earned (mature + immature) vs. 0.66167 mBTC for NiceHash*. As I explain more in the above quoted post, any difference in earnings of 5% or less should be considered a tie due to the limitations of my test setup.
...

At the 72 hour mark Zpool fell behind NiceHash again, with a net earnings of 0.90309 mBTC for Zpool vs. 1.01949 mBTC for NH. While that is an 11.% difference, I can't really say it is significant statistically because just yesterday Zpool was nearly tied with NH while the day before it was behind NH by 12.1%, so daily earnings fluctuate quite a bit.

What I can say for sure, though, is that the estimated profit data which NemosMiner is obtaining/using to select which algo to run is persistently overstated by anywhere from 1.5x to 3x the actual earnings so because of this, as well as a few other glaring deficiencies in these profit switching scripts, I think I will stick to using Zpool in single-algo mode.


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February 15, 2018, 02:24:38 PM
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Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7





The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

so what the timer for?
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February 15, 2018, 02:35:51 PM
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You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Yes, I already show my bat.
use address DNR with option C=DNR, mining DNR, but got paid in DGB so I think something wrong.
No problem in other pool.

https://23.imgtrue.com/DNRDGBe60793f44f09de45.png
i also,you kan see they wallet adress mismatch the coin,other pool all right,but they pool will use your hash ming they own coin
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February 15, 2018, 02:41:00 PM
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Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7





The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

so what the timer for?

the other 200 altcoins.

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February 15, 2018, 03:04:43 PM
Last edit: February 15, 2018, 04:01:33 PM by DS-M
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** +1h : Everything seems to be ok for now...


Hi Crackfoo,

Problems with Zpool.ca ?
Just lost connections, a couple of time's.

Retryíng in a few moments.

Regards,

DS-M/Sander
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