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February 01, 2018, 08:45:03 PM



If the price goes down to $6k I'm selling it all because obviously the graph will flip and the price will go negative.


Never sell boy! Until the Next halving


Yes the next halving, price will double


from 5 dollars to 10. Tongue
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February 01, 2018, 08:45:30 PM
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So i read the Many Many predictions that we can actually fall a little deeper specialy with the extra FUD throwing @us (seems like extra highlighted days for those FUDspreaders) but like most i also believe there is much of positive things Going on and we must again look further than al of This FUD and focus on the more important and fundamentels of the sector , a few offers of the great news like Samsung gig on bitcoin miningchips production, appraising Words from CEO of twitter on bitcoin..., adoption from Japan , southkorea ( NOT banning btc), attention from big thinkers of This time like elon musk, nasim taleb.....
So maybe Just This are very good prices for new peoples to get involved and for others to invest a little extra
Or am i Wrong ?

Now I am beginning to recognize the genius in your BTC give away plan.... Give portions of your BTC away if the price goes up towards and past ATHs in order to build good Karma... And, if BTC prices go down, you don't have to give away nuttin.   Cheesy Cheesy



On a more serious note:  Of course, you are correct with your above statement.  The BTC fundamentals have not changed, so in that regard, there should be buying and continued buying on the way down, in spite of the downward price pressures that are based on manipulation and FUD spreading.  If you buy on the way down, you are likely to profit.. even if it takes 5 years... ... hopefully the time frame is not that long.. and we are decently likely to be in ATH territories once again in the coming 4 to 18 months... which would be more than a doubling return on any investment made during these dipping times... good odds, good odds.
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February 01, 2018, 08:47:14 PM



Mustn't we conclude:  "That wall isn't real."
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February 01, 2018, 08:50:12 PM

Am I still the only one that finds it ironic bob was telling everyone to "HODL" while he was dumping everything that wasn't nailed down?  LOL.  No, wait...it gets better...then he comes back and talks about...he just bought two Porsches in the garage, and probably some municipal bonds that are obviously getting defaulted on and going to zero.
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February 01, 2018, 08:51:08 PM

This is an interesting twist on the USDT thing: that they are capitalised, but went about it backwards. http://telegra.ph/Tether-could-be-guilty-of-perpetrating-a-huge-fraud-just-not-the-one-we-think-02-01

It doesn't make sense.

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The timing of the creation of new USDT. Analysts have noted this often happens at critical moments, for example when the market is falling sharply or is threatening to breach a significant technical level. That would make sense if Tether are using those opportunities not only to buy cheap BTC, but potentially to manipulate prices higher in order to sell them at a better rate.

Bullsh!t. Every margin trader is doing that.


True. Though not every margin trader gets to print the currency with which they buy BTC.
It's pretty well accepted that the creation of new USDT tends to occur at key points in the trading cycle.

Margin traders borrow money that might or might not exist at the time trade is done. That's what banks are doing all the time while trading. They borrow overnight to finance their trading positions.

Nobody knows in advance where are the key points in the "trading cycle". Those points become key points only after somebody invests a lot of money buying or selling. In this case acquiring a lot of USDT and selling them for BTC.
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February 01, 2018, 08:51:16 PM

Hold the line, bitches, just hodl the line!  Angry  Don't you even try to sell!
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February 01, 2018, 08:58:01 PM

FOMO train revving its engines
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February 01, 2018, 09:00:39 PM

next 72h are critical!
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February 01, 2018, 09:05:04 PM



If the price goes down to $6k I'm selling it all because obviously the graph will flip and the price will go negative.


Never sell boy! Until the Next halving


Yes the next halving, price will double


from 5 dollars to 10. Tongue


I have nothing to lose, i Will get rich ore i Will stay the same like now..
And if your not for btc then move out And fuck your selfff hater
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February 01, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
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ok

I'll say it :

Who sold at bottom ?
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February 01, 2018, 09:07:29 PM

BTC has seen worse... These are Rookie figures.. These need to be "pumped" up to make new hodlers feel what its like to hodl... Wink


I'm seeing this as a kind of a "initiation" into the cult.



Get out of here with your "cult" exaggeration bullshit.   Roll Eyes
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February 01, 2018, 09:08:23 PM

ok

I'll say it :

Who sold at bottom ?


the bottom was 10k
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February 01, 2018, 09:09:42 PM

This is an interesting twist on the USDT thing: that they are capitalised, but went about it backwards. http://telegra.ph/Tether-could-be-guilty-of-perpetrating-a-huge-fraud-just-not-the-one-we-think-02-01

It doesn't make sense.

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The timing of the creation of new USDT. Analysts have noted this often happens at critical moments, for example when the market is falling sharply or is threatening to breach a significant technical level. That would make sense if Tether are using those opportunities not only to buy cheap BTC, but potentially to manipulate prices higher in order to sell them at a better rate.

Bullsh!t. Every margin trader is doing that.


True. Though not every margin trader gets to print the currency with which they buy BTC.
It's pretty well accepted that the creation of new USDT tends to occur at key points in the trading cycle.

Margin traders borrow money that might or might not exist at the time trade is done. That's what banks are doing all the time while trading. They borrow overnight to finance their trading positions.

Nobody knows in advance where are the key points in the "trading cycle". Those points become key points only after somebody invests a lot of money buying or selling. In this case acquiring a lot of USDT and selling them for BTC.


By minting 100m usdt, Finex become the trading cycle. That's the whole point.
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February 01, 2018, 09:19:40 PM

This is an interesting twist on the USDT thing: that they are capitalised, but went about it backwards. http://telegra.ph/Tether-could-be-guilty-of-perpetrating-a-huge-fraud-just-not-the-one-we-think-02-01

It doesn't make sense.

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The timing of the creation of new USDT. Analysts have noted this often happens at critical moments, for example when the market is falling sharply or is threatening to breach a significant technical level. That would make sense if Tether are using those opportunities not only to buy cheap BTC, but potentially to manipulate prices higher in order to sell them at a better rate.

Bullsh!t. Every margin trader is doing that.


True. Though not every margin trader gets to print the currency with which they buy BTC.
It's pretty well accepted that the creation of new USDT tends to occur at key points in the trading cycle.

Margin traders borrow money that might or might not exist at the time trade is done. That's what banks are doing all the time while trading. They borrow overnight to finance their trading positions.

Nobody knows in advance where are the key points in the "trading cycle". Those points become key points only after somebody invests a lot of money buying or selling. In this case acquiring a lot of USDT and selling them for BTC.


By minting 100m usdt, Finex become the trading cycle. That's the whole point.

Every central bank is the trading cycle for their respective currency. USDT is a private currency of Fiinex. It is quite natural if Finex defines the trading cycle of USDT.

Fed is the trading cycle for USD. Finex is the trading cycle for USDT. Get used to it and move on!

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February 01, 2018, 09:21:56 PM
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ok

I'll say it :

Who sold at bottom ?


I paid for a hotel room on Expedia when the price was at like $8600 or so.

On the other hand, it's the first time I've spent bitcoins in a while because the transaction fees didn't make it worth it. I paid $300 for the room and only paid $1 in fees (could have lowered the fee if I wanted).
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February 01, 2018, 09:25:28 PM

This is an interesting twist on the USDT thing: that they are capitalised, but went about it backwards. http://telegra.ph/Tether-could-be-guilty-of-perpetrating-a-huge-fraud-just-not-the-one-we-think-02-01

It doesn't make sense.

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The timing of the creation of new USDT. Analysts have noted this often happens at critical moments, for example when the market is falling sharply or is threatening to breach a significant technical level. That would make sense if Tether are using those opportunities not only to buy cheap BTC, but potentially to manipulate prices higher in order to sell them at a better rate.

Bullsh!t. Every margin trader is doing that.


True. Though not every margin trader gets to print the currency with which they buy BTC.
It's pretty well accepted that the creation of new USDT tends to occur at key points in the trading cycle.

Margin traders borrow money that might or might not exist at the time trade is done. That's what banks are doing all the time while trading. They borrow overnight to finance their trading positions.

Nobody knows in advance where are the key points in the "trading cycle". Those points become key points only after somebody invests a lot of money buying or selling. In this case acquiring a lot of USDT and selling them for BTC.


By minting 100m usdt, Finex become the trading cycle. That's the whole point.

Every central bank is the trading cycle for their respective currency. USDT is a private currency of Fiinex. It is quite natural if Finex defines the trading cycle of USDT.

Fed is the trading cycle for USD. Finex is the trading cycle for USDT. Get used to it and move on!
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February 01, 2018, 09:25:50 PM

ok

I'll say it :

Who sold at bottom ?


That would be me. My weak hands just couldn't HODL any longer. Ranks up there in one of the dumb moves that I have made.  Cheesy Cry Probably, because at 3:00 am in the morning, I got up to use the restroom and looked at the charts. Been up ever since, looking at the charts more than actually working.  Cheesy Exhausted and cranky, I just dumped during my lunch break. Oh well, at least I still have 70% of my holdings in the private keys stored on my Trezor.
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Anyone here from 2013??  Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U
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February 01, 2018, 09:28:07 PM

This is an interesting twist on the USDT thing: that they are capitalised, but went about it backwards. http://telegra.ph/Tether-could-be-guilty-of-perpetrating-a-huge-fraud-just-not-the-one-we-think-02-01

If that was the case I don't think it is even fraud. They were ultimately issuing tether in $100 million chunks which is a small percentage of the total. As soon as most the previous ones were already covered by USD from the sale of BTC they had enough money to cover just the latest issued Tether by their OWN USD. I can't see why that is fraud.

If Tether were backed not by USD but by other different assets (ie: BTC) that would be a much different thing and a clear fraud even if at some point of time those BTC were theoretically worth double or more than the amount of USD being backed.

Of course this is all speculation.
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February 01, 2018, 09:28:30 PM


I think the idea of "Guvs" and big banks was to buy up all know bitcoin in sight during the last 8 months of 2017, drive the price up to kingdom come and then slam the market into the ground in attempt to destroy confidence in bitcoin as an asset.

They had to do that to avoid the worldwide debt bubble being "pricked" by bitcoin.

May or may not work.

I also think this would account for some of the bizarre dumpfests...

Ie.. ‘Hey look! Bitcoin is recovering and seems to be gaining momentum and may end this month/week on a high ... let’s dump the shit out of it... so it doesn’t end the month/week on a high an I can maximise my...er....losses!!’

Yep. That seems legit!
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