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[HairyMaclairy]

Who the fuck partially fills a limit order for 0.1 BTC and then goes away again?

[JayJuanGee]

I don’t hold with the level of racism in this thread either.

A ban of Roach would be a good start.  His noodlings on physical silver don’t bring sufficient value to justify his other bullshit.  I don’t give a flip if he has has been here since day 1.

Who has mod powers on this thread now ?

Yes some of his racist crap offended me too and I'm not no bleeding heart liberal. But I believe in free speech,. quite passionately . Best way to counter is with some salient argument or just simply ignore. Besides he does make some interesting observations at times.

Free speech is fine, I'm strongly in favour with some limits - but the internet is full of forums for racists to vent their shite. It's not relevant to this thread, and should get modded (and yes I get the irony that this discussion isn't either).

If it's limited it's not free, you can't have it both ways.

You seem to have your own "limited" thinking, if you cannot imagine ways in which free speech can be limited and still be free.. go figure.  Based on some of your previous posts, this current position of yours that is not willing or able to circumscribe the concept of "free" does not surprise me.

[d_eddie]

Interesting as predictions about the next phase are, it's an art for few. Masterluc himself is far sighted in his reach forward.

I'd like to turn back with the not-so-few: what happened? This might help my future understanding of things.

When is it the first time that one of us could have said "it's coming" - and how could they hope to convince at least a qualified majority?

8-monthly bubbles which burst in the "propellor correction" fashion I described. The pattern's always the same:

It's the 1-Week MACD histogram for Bitcoin/USD. The thing is, I've NEVER seen it go so deep on the very first bar before.



For me it lends credence to the idea that the market is being actively co-erced down to a pre-defined level by the same holders who hoovered up the coin on the way up. They may be playing both markets in concert (futures and cash).

Toknormal's points scored with me. Are the two quoted views mutually exclusive, or can they add up into a coherent narrative?

8-month cycles, give or take 6 months. The give or take bit itches, of course. Why these irregular durations? Is the school (of whales) free to choose a random moment, or are they looking for a "go ahead" hint from external reality? Which kind of hint/help would they welcome? The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?

[Arriemoller]

Going to bed.
Goodnight Bitcoinland whatever your IQ.

[JayJuanGee]

So, Bitfinexed Reddit name is AtlasRand1. The guy who started the "Gentlemen I think we are..." thread called himself Atlas, he was later permabanned for übertrolling. Is this perhaps the same person?

Do you have any evidence for this claim that these online personas are the same person?  We are not in that small of a world, are we?

If so we need a song:  "It's a small world after all... repeat...  blah blah blah."

No that's why I said perhaps. But the bitcoin world is indeed that small.

It is not that small if you cannot find evidence to support your smallness theory.  

You are starting to sound like some other conspiracy theorist (who I will not name at the moment), but who had a theory that all the fucking exchanges were controlled by a few peeps...

Fucking ridiculous..

Yeah, sure I will agree that bitcoin and crypto are relatively small, but you cannot assume to many things merely based on knowing that it is small in some ways that it is so fucking small to support some kind of claim that the same person is doing x, y and z...   That is just showing both a lack of evidence and a lack of logic that ends up rising to the level of wishful thinking.

[d_eddie]

I think a lot of these people bitching about scaling have never run a full node.

Surely, you mean a "full-validating, non-mining node wallet"? Asks our wordsmith colleague jbreher. 

^^^ FTFY.

Just keepin' it real.

XD

Hmphh, inflexible over language, eh? I don't even keep a wallet on my node, but whatever.

I ain't 'playing victim'. There is a wide gulf from permissionless innovation that you don't happen to care for, and outright lying in order to besmirch character.

I understood the first sentence, but I couldn't make sense of the second. Care to explain?

[Gyrsur]

we need to have ChartBuddy back in town to stay focused!

Bitfinex

Bitstamp

Explanation

[suspiciously square]

we need to have ChartBuddy back in town to stay focused!

Bitfinex

Bitstamp

Explanation

Cloudflare would ban ChartBuddy because he's a bot. We need a human who never sleeps to make the ChartBuddy posts.

[RoomBot]

I never sleep!

But I'm not human, sorry. 

[El duderino_]

I never sleep!

But I'm not human, sorry. 

Even R2D2 did sleep

[Gyrsur]

we need to have ChartBuddy back in town to stay focused!

Bitfinex

Bitstamp

Explanation

Cloudflare would ban ChartBuddy because he's a bot. We need a human who never sleeps to make the ChartBuddy posts.

we should ask Amazon Mechanical Turk if we can find someone who is able to do the job.

EDIT: Thermos has a huge amount of bitcoins for the new Forum software so we should ask him for helping us with the funding.  

[JayJuanGee]

Who the fuck partially fills a limit order for 0.1 BTC and then goes away again?

This has happened to me quite frequently.  You just  happen to have your order at the reversing point.  I think that it is good sign.

Sometimes the remaining portion fo the order does end up getting filled, but frequently when an order gets partially filled, I get a kind of feeling of how much of a "genius" I am in terms of my order placement... sometimes, I cancel the remaining and sometimes I will just leave it and see if it later gets filled.  If I leave it, then frequently, I will set a partial contrary order, just to cover myself on both and it becomes more fun, because I feel that I get an additional opportunity to make some extra money by setting another partial order on the other end and then just wait to see which one fills first.  That part is like a game, and fun and generally profitable, no matter what.

[suspiciously square]

we need to have ChartBuddy back in town to stay focused!

Bitfinex

Bitstamp

Explanation

Cloudflare would ban ChartBuddy because he's a bot. We need a human who never sleeps to make the ChartBuddy posts.

we should ask Amazon Mechanical Turk if we can find someone who is able to do the job.

EDIT: Thermos has a huge amount of bitcoins for the new Forum software so we should ask him for helping us with the funding.  

Well I'll start the mechanical turking off with a copy of ChartBuddy's latest post.

[jojo69]

what are we, probably 2 weeks from WOTPCATHP?

that's gonna be sad

[HairyMaclairy]

[JayJuanGee]

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I'd like to turn back with the not-so-few: what happened? This might help my future understanding of things.

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8-month cycles, give or take 6 months. The give or take bit itches, of course. Why these irregular durations? Is the school (of whales) free to choose a random moment, or are they looking for a "go ahead" hint from external reality? Which kind of hint/help would they welcome? The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?

Come on, d-eddie.  Snap the fuck out of it.

You seem to be giving way too much weight to TA and predictions that are based on science or some kind of supposed inevitability.   

Sure, once something happens, that particular something becomes 100%, but just because some folks predicted it to happen does not mean that they knew that it was going to happen or that the thing was inevitable to happen.. .because there could have been some monkey wrench that gets thrown into the situation that ends up totally fucking up the whole outcome....

Sure, we can give a certain amount of weight and credit to TA for helping us to sort out probabilities of one scenario versus another scenario, but in the end, these guys with the fucking charts are also pointing out probabilities of one scenario that they believe to be more likely than another scenario, but the smart (and genuine) ones are going to also acknowledge the various scenarios of the other direction too.. whether they assign the other direction 40% or 20% or cockily assign it only 10%....   

Furthermore, we also know that TAs are frequently wrong too, and you remember when a lot of the TA fucks were calling another leg down at $890 in early 2017... well that did not happen... and a lot of peeps lost money when they were relying on that specific TA and there are other situations as well, especially in bitcoin with our exponential curve going on that has fucked a lot of downside predictors over and over and over. 

So yeah, we can figure out ways to make more money by following TA (whether accumulating bitcoin or dollars), but we may end up losing money too if we make some bad bets while using TA and we don't play the upsides and the downsides of our bets in a reasonable kind of amount and ratios....

In other words, fuck those peeps who are claiming that they predicted anything and saying, I told you so, I told you so.  Fuck them. 

And, you want to know how I really feel?  hahahahaha

[HairyMaclairy]

Feb 14 is Valentines and expiry of XBT/G8.  

[Toxic2040]

[El duderino_]

A friend of me invested early 2017 ..... Just a computer Guy Made small investment into crypto VERY bullish on btc and try to make his btc’s by alt trading offcourse in 2017 iT was Going perfectly ain’t much gains he was making than suddenly on his discord channel he posted
-... So basically Thats Why i went 70% ETH before i lost 25% computer to BTC 100% loss. There is No future right now in btc....
1. BTC No store of value (unless like gold Stable most time) BTC has No store of value iT is what people think its worth
2. Unlike Microsoft/Apple what they do is they buy back part of there stock with the profit they make throughout the year witch keep the price Going up, in btc there is No case like This, btc isn’t buying btc.
3. It’s not and won’t Be ready for mass adaption who’s Going to use This as an online currency for Goods When price is changing hard every second? With Paypal less fees and same speed, Why would people use iT to buy online goods.
4. The only reason btc is Going to have a bottom is because it’s used to buy other crypto, imagine all big Exchanges allowing altcoins to be bought with dollar/euro that would make bitcoin useless and Will have zero value


The fucked up things you read sometimes especially from friends you introduced into This world of crypto

Offcourse btc best store of value ever....!

Only for companys with fixen asseds like comparing Apple and pear

Mass adaption possible.... we can buy anything with btc’s and not like Paypal with a 3th party

Lol ..... This Guy has lot to learn

Even gold and everything is like what people thinks its worth....


The Guy So deep in alt’s i think that he possible lost much more
And.... but from here was a big discussion that ended with Him leaving or whatss app group .... the bombz that Where dropped on Him .....

What a bearmarket can do to Some ....

BUT also Many starting friends follow Him as wel and then spreading This FUD with having No vision pitty

[JayJuanGee]

we need to have ChartBuddy back in town to stay focused!

Bitfinex

Bitstamp

Explanation

Cloudflare would ban ChartBuddy because he's a bot. We need a human who never sleeps to make the ChartBuddy posts.

ChartBuddy works in this thread.  It is just that no one has wanted to take that job.  I bet if anyone were to take that job and start providing ChartBuddy, or some other similarly named service that is similar to ChartBuddy, that person would likely earn a lot of merit with the passage of time.  

I personally would have done something to make a chartbuddy if either 1) I had skills in that direction or 2) I wanted to learn how to acquire such skills.   I really fail in both of those areas of 1) and 2).