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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 25496008 times)
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February 08, 2018, 02:07:55 PM

To be really good you just need to be better than the average trader. And for that you don't need to sell the exact top or buy the exact bottom. It's enough to stagger purchases and sales in proportions that depend on the probabilities of price increases/decreases by certain numbers. Finding the probabilities is the trick here, as well as averaging them out in a way that guarantees you a performance band in which your portfolio will fall with a given probability. Doing that requires an understanding of time series as well as the ability to process large amounts of data (beyond just the price charts) though.

Agreed, but why didn't we see the crash coming? If there was a pattern to predict that, not many here did.

Did you know after it went up towards 20k that within a month or so it would hit 6K?  I didn't.
That's exactly what I would like to be able to figure out - partially, tentatively, doubtfully, of course. In another post, kurious said something to the effect "Exactness is not possible, but getting as close to it as we can is a noble art." I'm quoting from memory, words might be off. Well, that's exactly what I hope to do, and I'm asking for help from several points of view. The advanced conspiration theorist, the technical analyst, the macroeconomist, the street-wise long time exchange user. I'm none of that yet, but honing my gut feeling skills seems a worthy endeavour.
That depends on how much time and effort you are willing to expend, or alternatively money if you'd prefer hiring people.

The most accurate solution will be a well-balanced combination of multiple approaches, and the balancing act is something that can always be improved upon with new data. It's also very much possible to create fresh data from what you already know, which is to some extent what technical analysis does.

If you're not looking into algorithmic trading then your best bet is a combination of fundamental and technical analysis. If you're looking into algorithmic trading, you'll find no upper ceiling no matter how many resources you throw at the problem.

If you're manually trading you may want to consider trading on different time scales simultaneously (minutes/hours/days/weeks/months), both for better hedging and for accelerated self-improvement. There are also altcoins that are "negatively" correlated to BTC/USD (e.g. they do the opposite of what BTC/USD does), which can be used fairly easily to increase your stashes during periods of extreme volatility on any time scale.
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February 08, 2018, 02:08:58 PM


@cryptocolic
Those drapes are ridiculous.
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February 08, 2018, 02:13:06 PM

JOHn having a pre-$1M party with the boys?
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February 08, 2018, 02:16:52 PM

Nice scam, guys.  No bid support on any exchange and then you click on Bitfinex and..."The Bitfinex Spoofer", the single entity that has controlled the bitcoin price since $200 by fraud, stealing all customer deposts and claiming they were hacked, and now printing infinite Tethers just like MtGox before it collapsed has these fraud walls - walls backed by nothing because they're Tethers:



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February 08, 2018, 02:27:15 PM

JOHn having a pre-$1M party with the boys?
sorry not sure of photo exact context. https://twitter.com/coinsiglieri/status/961557119437852672
some wag posted it in conjuction with https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/961536186278871042
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February 08, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
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Nice scam, guys.  

This finex thing is ridiculous.


https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD
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February 08, 2018, 02:35:50 PM

I am holding my coins but I am not hodling onto this thread. I feel guilty but I can't keep up with its speed.
I found out that the merit system is actually good to scrool the pages and read only the "must read" posts.

Have fun
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February 08, 2018, 02:46:12 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2346992.msg23932789#msg23932789
this is still interesting. worth..  Wink

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February 08, 2018, 02:51:39 PM
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...racist drivel...

Bugger off roach, no-one wants you or your bullshit here.
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February 08, 2018, 02:53:31 PM
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Who could have possibly guessed John McAfee was a scammer?  Or better yet, if you assume 9/11 was also bogus and was just Operation Northwoods v2.0 with a remote control plane run into the building conducted by dual citizen neocon Jews to try and get their 7 wars in 5 years (all enemies or territory that Israel wants to expand into of course) as cited by Gen. Wesley Clark, then think of how many others in the public light are also frauds and scammers complicit by going along with it when they obviously know better?  Neil Degrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawking, the list goes on.  Cowards, scammers, murderers, and thieves.

Bugger off roach, no-one wants you or your bullshit here.

Nobody wants your paroting of Jew media propaganda and lies here.
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Bugger off roach, no-one wants you or your bullshit here.

Fuck off to police some other place.

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February 08, 2018, 02:57:06 PM

“I’ll take “roach rant” for $100 please,Alex..”

“The answer is...
The Jewish conspiracy...
Silver is god...
Bitfinex is a scam.”

(Buzzes in)
“What three things does every roach rant repeat ad finitum!?”

DING DING!
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February 08, 2018, 02:58:10 PM

Bugger off roach, no-one wants you or your bullshit here.

Fuck off to police some other place.

I'll stay here thanks, voicing my discontent with his rubbish.
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February 08, 2018, 02:58:25 PM

"hate to jews are bad"

hate to russians, east europeans are ok here.... nobody delete , no admin here

ROACH have true as always .
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February 08, 2018, 02:58:51 PM

“I’ll take “roach rant” for $100 please,Alex..”

“The answer is...
The Jewish conspiracy...
Silver is god...
Bitfinex is a scam.”

(Buzzes in)
“What three things does every roach rant repeat ad finitum!?”

DING DING!

At least one of those has some meat to it I guess. Too bad he's not providing anything new to the table.
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Bugger off roach, no-one wants you or your bullshit here.

Fuck off to police some other place.

I'll stay here thanks, voicing my discontent with his rubbish.
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Coin fans - Thx 4 ur enormous response 2 my recent US Senate remarks.  Lol. As you invest remember: caution, balance & DYOR.
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...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbreher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
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February 08, 2018, 03:26:22 PM

...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
No idea what exactly the chain thingy does. But just take a pen and a piece of paper and crunch some numbers. That way you'll get a proper feel for what you'll want to try to do much quicker than by reading a verbal explanation.
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February 08, 2018, 03:30:12 PM

...chained orders...

I have been experimenting with JJG (and jbrher)s chained order strategy on the BTC/ETH pair.

Perhaps I am being dense...but I am just not getting it.

It goes down, I am buying ETH every 0.001, ok fine, then it goes back up and I am selling ETH at the exact same prices...it looks like a total wash to me.

Did I miss something in the explanation?
You remove the "other side" order at the point you just filled, otherwise they will cancel out for sure.
Example: you have orders each 500$.
Sell at 8500 on the way up, but remove "buy at 8500 on the way down". Next you'll buy will be at $8000.
Same for the opposite direction, buy at $8000 on the way down, remove "sell at $8000 on the way up".
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