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Question: Did we reach the bottom already?
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March 01, 2018, 07:11:23 AM

it can be hard over the drums

Huh?  Smiley

My dad said the first time he saw Led Zeppelin, he could not believe how loud John Bonham was..playing unmiked at the old Fillmore East.
I have these(my dads old set) in the music room still and jump on them from time to time to let it all hang out. No clicky click here.

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March 01, 2018, 07:56:35 AM
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Can you feel it?

Are you guys ready?
I have a PhD in procrastination. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be ready for. What did I miss?

Ask this question again tomorrow next week.
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March 01, 2018, 08:01:13 AM

This sounds like it could be BIG: https://www.coindesk.com/germany-considers-crypto-legal-equivalent-to-fiat-for-tax-purposes/

But I am not sure of the exact meaning. Do they mean the "conversion" will be VAT exempt (as it is obvious it already is) or does it also means than when using BTC for buying services/goods no capital gains will be needed to be reported/paid? If so, up to which amount? Cofee? Huge TV? Lambo?

Anyone fluent in german that can understand the source document and post a more specific conclusion?
Basically states that for strictly payment purposes there's no VAT to be paid.

For mining purposes there's no tax because there's no "taxable event", as the block rewards and transaction fees are not a paid service (probably because the fees are variable and random) and the mining (which is defined as the solving of mathematical algorithms) is a voluntary action by the miner.

If a wallet provider charges fees they are subject to taxes in the event that the fees are charged within Germany.


Basically states that cryptocurrencies are equivalent to legal tender as long as they are strictly used as a means of payment. Not included in this are "game currencies".

Doesn't say anything about capital gains taxes, so I assume they're the same as before (that is whatever the tax rate is for short term holds, and tax free for long term holds of 12 months or longer).


If electricity prices in Europe were more reasonable that would pretty much invite mining operations into Germany... I kind of doubt that 10 times more expensive electricity would make up for virtual tax exemption.
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March 01, 2018, 08:03:30 AM
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Can you feel it?

Are you guys ready?
I have a PhD in procrastination. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be ready for. What did I miss?

Ask this question again tomorrow next week.
The month just started though....
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March 01, 2018, 08:10:26 AM
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Can you feel it?

Are you guys ready?
I have a PhD in procrastination. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be ready for. What did I miss?

Ask this question again tomorrow next week.
The month just started though....

Silly me. Of course, ask again next month then. You are the PhD in procrastination, I am still trying to pass 101 ... Cheesy
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March 01, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
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Badger is a pussy.  Shorts still weighing on the market.

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March 01, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
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Come on Bitcoin, break the downtrend! You can do it! Cheesy
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March 01, 2018, 09:58:52 AM

So who is buying 1500 BTC needed to cross 11K ?

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March 01, 2018, 10:27:45 AM

Another break out.  I’m not convinced - am calling bull trap. 

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March 01, 2018, 10:30:40 AM

Another break out.  I’m not convinced - am calling bull trap. 

https://preview.ibb.co/h3K7kx/C182_D1_DF_31_E2_401_A_821_C_B2423_F4_ABCB7.png[/img]

Party poop!
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March 01, 2018, 10:40:09 AM

I suppose if we keep constantly violating the trend line like this eventually  it will cease to have any meaning.

From a Dark Forest perspective, we really are doing better than expected.

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March 01, 2018, 10:57:37 AM

We guess we need a bit more volume.
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March 01, 2018, 11:01:35 AM
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reinforcements needed ... troops look unconvinced
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Party poop!
+1 WOsMerit

No kidding.  

Think Ill just leave this over here.


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reinforcements needed ... troops look unconvinced

If they're still wearing pants they're not fighting hard enough.
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March 01, 2018, 11:15:39 AM

No Pants Friday is coming
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March 01, 2018, 11:17:47 AM


Mark my words, before too long banks will be offering to hold your bitcoin for you (securely of course) and transferring between fiat to btc, and back, with little to no fee as incentive.

Would they really go that far? That would be a 180 degrees turn.
This is the same bank who was shouting 6 to 8 months ago everythin was a ponzi scheme/scam...
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March 01, 2018, 11:18:56 AM

reinforcements needed ... troops look unconvinced

If they're still wearing pants they're not fighting hard enough.
Everybody just stop mentioning the bloody PANTS, mkay?  Angry
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March 01, 2018, 11:26:26 AM

Liquid charts


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March 01, 2018, 11:28:40 AM

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting...and without god damned pants”
George C. Patton
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