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Oh, do i have to give my merits out to somebody, or what ? How does that work ?
Sorry, i´m a bit slow.
I just don´t understand the meaning of "merit" !  Smiley


Merit meaning is everything is going fairly. I need some points as well but it's not necessary i guess.



I gave you one merit, did you get it ?
I still have no idea, what "merits" are for  Smiley

Yeah but i only When you recieve 2merit iT convert into 1 Smerit
For most its like the Smerit dry up very quickly and difficult for the most of us to send them out whats kind of pitty....

Whoot ?
You´re kidding me ! I really want to understand, but this is no way! Can i through a round, merits for all of you ? I mean, you´re worth it anyway, fine people here !



For sure Just +merit and Add how Many or what you want .....
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Oh, do i have to give my merits out to somebody, or what ? How does that work ?
Sorry, i´m a bit slow.
I just don´t understand the meaning of "merit" !  Smiley


Merit meaning is everything is going fairly. I need some points as well but it's not necessary i guess.



I gave you one merit, did you get it ?
I still have no idea, what "merits" are for  Smiley

Yeah but i only When you recieve 2merit iT convert into 1 Smerit
For most its like the Smerit dry up very quickly and difficult for the most of us to send them out whats kind of pitty....

Whoot ?
You´re kidding me ! I really want to understand, but this is no way! Can i through a round, merits for all of you ? I mean, you´re worth it anyway, fine people here !



For sure Just +merit and Add how Many or what you want .....


Gave you one, because you´re on the right side.
How many do i have, before i run out of them? Damn, life is full of important questions . . .

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March 04, 2018, 12:08:37 PM

You can see the remaining merit left to give on the screen where you give people merit.

Click the +Merit to see what I mean

"sendable merit"

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Why are we talking about likes like it was some kind of goddamn science  Undecided
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You can see the remaining merit left to give on the screen where you give people merit.

Click the +Merit to see what I mean

"sendable merit"



I have 19 sMerits, or something. Guess i cuddle them in my sleep. Sounds not to much, but i´ll take what i can get. Whoa, i should be a little conservative in giving out merits  Smiley

Why does a chicken have to cross the road, right before me ?  Because it would miss out, later to be determined.

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March 04, 2018, 12:25:13 PM

Why are we talking about likes like it was some kind of goddamn science  Undecided

That's the beauty of artificial scarcity... Yep, it does even apply to "likes" it seems.
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Why are we talking about likes like it was some kind of goddamn science  Undecided

I`ll tell you the truth. I never gave a "like" to anybody in my life, i´m a smartphone, facebook, twitter agnostic. A dying species.
I wouldn´t know how to give a "like", even if i wanted to, that´s why i´m puzzled with merits.
Bear with me !  Smiley

But i understand crypto, and that´s what counts !


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March 04, 2018, 01:54:17 PM

Reality is: bitcointalk was getting more popular but shittier posts were filling page after page. The merit system was to encourage posters to have "merit-able" posts and contribute more to the community.  For now its just hot air with no incentive beyond leveling up like in a video game.  If you've got something good to say or have some entertainment value, yeah, we will read it.   

I say we tokenize merits with some real world value. That would get the ball rolling in here. Steemit? Or since we're a BTC community, maybe we could open a channel on the LN network and issue xxx Satoshi's instead of WOsMerits?  I'm sure we could get donations for such a cause.
I'm actually surprised this doesn't already exist here.  Anyone talented at drafting proposals?
 
 
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March 04, 2018, 01:58:15 PM

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately. 

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  

If you're interested in shitcoins, then you can improve your stack by 1/2% by selling Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC), which is one of the latest Bitcoin forks. You can find OTC offers on /r/BitcoinAirdropsTrades/

If you haven't sold your Bitcoin Pay (BTP), that's also remarkably holding around 1/2% on the BitPie exchange.

The next possible moneymaker could be Bitcoin Private (BTCP) that's a merged fork of BTC and ZCL.
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March 04, 2018, 02:10:22 PM

Reality is: bitcointalk was getting more popular but shittier posts were filling page after page. The merit system was to encourage posters to have "merit-able" posts and contribute more to the community.  For now its just hot air with no incentive beyond leveling up like in a video game.  If you've got something good to say or have some entertainment value, yeah, we will read it.  

I say we tokenize merits with some real world value. That would get the ball rolling in here. Steemit? Or since we're a BTC community, maybe we could open a channel on the LN network and issue xxx Satoshi's instead of WOsMerits?  I'm sure we could get donations for such a cause.
I'm actually surprised this doesn't already exist here.  Anyone talented at drafting proposals?
  
 

Yeah, let's do a whitepaper and an ICO lol

Seriously now, I think the Merit system is working but the effects will take some time to notice. Here in the WO we are somewhat inmune to what happens in most of the rest of BT. Pointless shitposts are everywhere. They just open hundreds of pointless new threads like:

- Will Bitcoin go up or down?
- Will Bitcoin reach 12K in two weeks?
- Why is Bitcoin going up?
- Why is Bitcoin going down?
- Why is Bitcoin not going up?
- Why is Bitcoin not going down?
- Why is Bitcoin not going up or down?
- etc etc...

A full fucking thread for each of those pointless questions.... and then, you see tens of pointless posts "answering" the question with absolutely no real reasoning. Everything to increase the post/activity count to rank up and join signature campaigns.

It's disgusting.

Maybe now, when they start to notice their previous modus operandi is not giving them the expected results (rank up) they will back off and the number of pointless shitposts will reduce significantly.

Yeah, here we do also have our own offtopic, sometimes even pointless but humorous posts, but it is all mostly done in good faith and not just for the sake of increasing post count.

I don't really think there is a need to incentivise the "accumulation" of Merits. It's usefulness is more as a deterrent for shitposters to keep with their (now) pointless activity than for regular good standing members to seek them for really no reason.

Also, if Merit had any real "value" people would start trading them.... overriding it's intended purpose.

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March 04, 2018, 02:14:58 PM

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately.  

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  

If you're interested in shitcoins, then you can improve your stack by 1/2% by selling Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC), which is one of the latest Bitcoin forks. You can find OTC offers on /r/BitcoinAirdropsTrades/

If you haven't sold your Bitcoin Pay (BTP), that's also remarkably holding around 1/2% on the BitPie exchange.

The next possible moneymaker could be Bitcoin Private (BTCP) that's a merged fork of BTC and ZCL.

Really? 1-2% over the full stash is SOME significant money.

What other forks have you already claimed?

I have claimed BCH and BTG only. Forks I mean... airdrops like Byteball, Stellar and CLAMS I did too.
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March 04, 2018, 02:25:13 PM

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately.  

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  

If you're interested in shitcoins, then you can improve your stack by 1/2% by selling Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC), which is one of the latest Bitcoin forks. You can find OTC offers on /r/BitcoinAirdropsTrades/

If you haven't sold your Bitcoin Pay (BTP), that's also remarkably holding around 1/2% on the BitPie exchange.

The next possible moneymaker could be Bitcoin Private (BTCP) that's a merged fork of BTC and ZCL.

Oh no, i just finished Diamond and Superbitcoin, was complicated enough, so i have to generate another new Electrum Wallet, with password and seed again, my spouse doesn´t believe the life that i have.


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March 04, 2018, 02:28:01 PM

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately. 

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  

If you're interested in shitcoins, then you can improve your stack by 1/2% by selling Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC), which is one of the latest Bitcoin forks. You can find OTC offers on /r/BitcoinAirdropsTrades/

If you haven't sold your Bitcoin Pay (BTP), that's also remarkably holding around 1/2% on the BitPie exchange.

The next possible moneymaker could be Bitcoin Private (BTCP) that's a merged fork of BTC and ZCL.

Oh no, i just finished Diamond and Superbitcoin, was complicated enough, so i have to generate another new Electrum Wallet, with password and seed again, my spouse doesn´t believe the life that i have.
Frankly, me neither.



HOw much did you get for Diamond and SuperBitcoin? And what's the best exchange to trade them?
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March 04, 2018, 02:32:55 PM
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Reality is: bitcointalk was getting more popular but shittier posts were filling page after page. The merit system was to encourage posters to have "merit-able" posts and contribute more to the community.  For now its just hot air with no incentive beyond leveling up like in a video game.  If you've got something good to say or have some entertainment value, yeah, we will read it.  

I say we tokenize merits with some real world value. That would get the ball rolling in here. Steemit? Or since we're a BTC community, maybe we could open a channel on the LN network and issue xxx Satoshi's instead of WOsMerits?  I'm sure we could get donations for such a cause.
I'm actually surprised this doesn't already exist here.  Anyone talented at drafting proposals?
  
 

Yeah, let's do a whitepaper and an ICO lol

Seriously now, I think the Merit system is working but the effects will take some time to notice. Here in the WO we are somewhat inmune to what happens in most of the rest of BT. Pointless shitposts are everywhere. They just open hundreds of pointless new threads like:

- Will Bitcoin go up or down?
- Will Bitcoin reach 12K in two weeks?
- Why is Bitcoin going up?
- Why is Bitcoin going down?
- Why is Bitcoin not going up?
- Why is Bitcoin not going down?
- Why is Bitcoin not going up or down?
- etc etc...

A full fucking thread for each of those pointless questions.... and then, you see tens of pointless posts "answering" the question with absolutely no real reasoning. Everything to increase the post/activity count to rank up and join signature campaigns.

It's disgusting.

Maybe now, when they start to notice their previous modus operandi is not giving them the expected results (rank up) they will back off and the number of pointless shitposts will reduce significantly.

Yeah, here we do also have our own offtopic, sometimes even pointless but humorous posts, but it is all mostly done in good faith and not just for the sake of increasing post count.

I don't really think there is a need to incentivise the "accumulation" of Merits. It's usefulness is more as a deterrent for shitposters to keep with their (now) pointless activity than for regular good standing members to seek them for really no reason.

Also, if Merit had any real "value" people would start trading them.... overriding it's intended purpose.


I wasn't really suggesting to do an ICO. Actually far from it. I do see where you're coming from and I still think it would serve us and the entire community. If we actually USED BTC within BT (wow mind blown), supporting LN while incentivizing quality posts, new participants to join,etc.
    I'd prefer to see something along the lines of.... (simple version)
*BTC donated
*Satoshi's issued to members under a smart contract where they can only be given to other members but not withdrawn to an address.
*Only Satoshi's that have been given can be withdrawn or re-given freely

OK, I do see where this could get taken advantage of but but... steemit did it?
 
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Really? 1-2% over the full stash is SOME significant money.

What other forks have you already claimed?

I have claimed BCH and BTG only. Forks I mean... airdrops like Byteball, Stellar and CLAMS I did too.

Bitcoin Diamond (BCD), BitcoinX (BCX) and Super Bitcoin (SBTC). You can sell BCD and SBTC at gate.io (no ID required for trade or withdrawal). BCX can only be sold at AEX.com now for BitCNY. Camku will sell the coins there for 5% fee as I believe they require ID.

You've really missed an opportunity with these forks as they were worth a lot more. You could have got 3-4% with BCX alone when deposits temporarily opened up at gate.io - made some bagholders that day Wink
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It felt like we were enjoying some real organic growth last week, but that came to a abrupt end yesterday as bearish manipulation took control of the market. This coming week could provide us with another bullish run at the $11.5k resistance level.
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March 04, 2018, 02:47:00 PM

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately. 

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  

If you're interested in shitcoins, then you can improve your stack by 1/2% by selling Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC), which is one of the latest Bitcoin forks. You can find OTC offers on /r/BitcoinAirdropsTrades/

If you haven't sold your Bitcoin Pay (BTP), that's also remarkably holding around 1/2% on the BitPie exchange.

The next possible moneymaker could be Bitcoin Private (BTCP) that's a merged fork of BTC and ZCL.

Oh no, i just finished Diamond and Superbitcoin, was complicated enough, so i have to generate another new Electrum Wallet, with password and seed again, my spouse doesn´t believe the life that i have.
Frankly, me neither.



HOw much did you get for Diamond and SuperBitcoin? And what's the best exchange to trade them?

Did it with Bitpie and Bither on my estranged Smartphone and then sold at "Okex", don´t know if that is the smartest way, but i´m richer now.



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March 04, 2018, 03:03:39 PM

Really? 1-2% over the full stash is SOME significant money.

What other forks have you already claimed?

I have claimed BCH and BTG only. Forks I mean... airdrops like Byteball, Stellar and CLAMS I did too.

Bitcoin Diamond (BCD), BitcoinX (BCX) and Super Bitcoin (SBTC). You can sell BCD and SBTC at gate.io (no ID required for trade or withdrawal). BCX can only be sold at AEX.com now for BitCNY. Camku will sell the coins there for 5% fee as I believe they require ID.

You've really missed an opportunity with these forks as they were worth a lot more. You could have got 3-4% with BCX alone when deposits temporarily opened up at gate.io - made some bagholders that day Wink

Oh well, it's always hard to know what to do. I have most of my BTC on Ledger wallets, so my strategy was to wait until they supported those forks as they did with BCH and BTG or wait until most forks finished, then move all my BTC to another ledger and then use the previous seed to claim it all. Some months ago fees were expensive for moving too.

Also, one is never sure when those shitcoins are gonna pump later. Decisions decisions.

I guess it is just about time I move my BTC and start claiming everything... will decide later if sell immediately, wait, or a mix of both.

Retrospectively I do agree I could have done much better on this Sad
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Seems to me, half of you guys didn´t claim the forks. Get on with it. You´re missing out !



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March 04, 2018, 03:41:43 PM

The US government seized 500 Bitcoins from a suicide piracy case. I wonder if it is still the issue that BTC will reduce today. that's $ 5.5 million.

LOL   Cheesy Cheesy  us fed printing 100 trillions + soo they are no "excited" from few millions from some ilegall activity ..    they need people in world will trust and buy US debt and other.. wich are not happening now and world turning from petrodollar ..  ..thats why "uncle sam" desperatley want nuclear war and destroing whole planet .. like cowboy in cassino: bet all on one number ... mckillers
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