Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[jonoiv]

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Well here is a quote from you the day of the start of the crash Dec 17th 2017.  You accuse me off being a fudster, and that I can lose people money by calling it one way.  Just because my outlook is different from yours.

Don't do that... just as much as you seem to be a blind believer, I will always be slightly skeptical, and will always be bearish for long periods, that's just the way I am built, personality wise, and if you're honest, I bet you are an optimist personality wise.  I also see the potential pitfalls of bitcoin, and really don't trust that it's invincible, and because of the way I am I will focus on those.  Just because you think my best guess of 3k or 4k at some point in the not too distant future is not realistic you call it FUD.  

It's not FUD, it's an informed opinion, i'm just sharing my ideas in the similar way you have way you have.  I advised many friends who were very eager to buy around 15 - 19k not too, I have saved them a fuck ton.


just 2 things on you comment from back then.  those getting REKT will have got destroyed with just a small change of price (Either direction), it's nothing more than gambling at those leverages.  And whether or not there was a long term or short term crash, it crashed all the same to 30% of ATH.  you're inferring in your statement that to short at almost 20k was a bad idea... well it was a pretty smart move.

don't call me a fudster just because you don't like my take on the situation or because i have been wrong in the past, because so have you.

Get the fuck out of here you fucking goofball disingenuous FUDster, bringing up a supposed three month old conversation that I barely even recall, and if we did have such a communication, I sure that we can rely on your representations.... NOT....

If you do not recall I don't fucking predict the market except perhaps to say 50% this way or 60% if I am feeling confident.

I don't really give blind or blanket advice, but I do recommend that peeps figure out strategies that work for themselves and they tailor for themselves, and they try to plan ahead because some strategies seem to work better than others.

 I recommend a similar strategy no matter what the price, which is a kind of dollar cost averaging buy on the way down and sell on the way up... Of course, you can tweak any strategy here and there, but any strategy depends on personal circumstances and if the person has any stake at all in BTC or has been in BTC for several years...

So get the fuck out of here if you are trying to suggest that I am telling folks to buy on the way up or some other out of context bullshit that you are striving to attribute to me with your ongoing shitty ass assertion that "will probably" go to $3k without any kind of substantiation beyond hopium and throwing darts, perhaps.

As somebody that spends a good proportion of their waking life on a Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion but doesn't like opposing views to their own, and somebody that edits out their own quotes but misquotes others, somebody that asks for reasons why the 3k prediction, and when reasons are presented to them (15% of ATH lows historically), ignores the very simple response to the question, do you feel your defending some grand principal, or are you just a cunt?

Because if i were to say "probably 100k by Christmas'' you wouldn't bat an eyelid.  Your fervor is funny at best and a little unsettling at worst, why don't you spend some time with the kids or friends or the wife/girlfriend/partner etc.  

I visit this thread maybe once a week during the volatile periods and once a month in the quieter times.  Do you not have anything better to do then spend hours a day, bursting blood vessels and foaming at the mouth over strangers best guesses on a forum?

 

[HairyMaclairy]

[jojo69]

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There has to be some way to figure out fair distribution...

No, there does not have to be any "fair" anything.  The jurisdiction is Japanese bankruptcy law which, near as I can tell, is byzantine, rigid, and glacial.

Creditors will get whatever the courts say they get, fairness will have nothing to do with it.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I love Economists. They provide me with a constant supply of lulz.

[Icygreen]

And this is exactly why I want BTC. The issuing bank is TD in Canada although I haven't confirmed the block with TD yet.  See ya coinbase, not sure I'll exactly miss you.

[Last of the V8s]

I love Economists. They provide me with a constant supply of lulz.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I love Economists. They provide me with a constant supply of lulz.

I like the art style on that, is it a game?

[dieselmeister]

i think the guy who dumped yesterday, is now awake and continues to dump.

[Last of the V8s]

I like the art style on that, is it a game?

No it is real life. No it is https://tapas.io/series/GhostBlade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrj8VuLopmo

[Torque]

For any new hodlers, the dumping/shorting is designed to make you constantly feel like this:



Don't get frustrated. Hodl on! BTFD!

[savetherainforest]

You guys play blindman's bluff until the cows come home. My eyes are wide open

BMB!  WAKE UP!  you're dreaming again.  Same nightmare as before?

I dreamt about eating sweets and when I woke up I felt my glycemia levels higher!

[RealMachasm]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

and before hand tell golf buddies to short?

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

[conspirosphere.tk]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

and before hand tell golf buddies to short?

I can imagine him saying: "Now short Bitcoin and hold my beer"




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-07/bitcoins-tokyo-whale-sells-400m-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

reddit? twitter? tradingview?

[Last of the V8s]

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

reddit? twitter? tradingview?

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTNn-WMvNU Whalepool Live Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Trading Stream 24/7/365

[RealMachasm]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

and before hand tell golf buddies to short?

I can imagine him saying: "Now short Bitcoin and hold my beer"




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-07/bitcoins-tokyo-whale-sells-400m-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

reddit? twitter? tradingview?

Maybe I am being naive but wouldn't he have stood to make more had he sold OTC when BTC was at 20K?

[Torque]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

Why wouldn't you want to feed my conspiracy theories? Lol  

No but seriously, are people really buying that this trustee was able to time the top of the market perfectly at $20k, and sell that much bitcoin on exchange risking mega slippage instead of just doing a public OTC auction/private sale?

Orly? There are many wealthy individual and institutional investors that would probably jump at the chance to purchase that much bitcoin off-exchange.

Keep in mind that the media can make up whatever FUD bullshit they want and put it out there, and the public has no choice but to accept it at face value...

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

and before hand tell golf buddies to short?

I can imagine him saying: "Now short Bitcoin and hold my beer"




https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-07/bitcoins-tokyo-whale-sells-400m-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

reddit? twitter? tradingview?

Maybe I am being naive but wouldn't he have stood to make more had he sold OTC when BTC was at 20K?

Thanks for the reply conspirosphere.tk! Since the execution of Aaron Swartz no reddit for me (and their censorship of dissents in the co2 scam), twitter is an organized criminal organization and I have no idea about tradingview. Thanks for the recommendation, will check it out .

What are your best bitcoin speculation discussion alternative? It took me almost 10 min to get logged... between your computer send to many requests and clicking cars, bus, front stores. it isn't possible anymore. please help !!!

reddit? twitter? tradingview?

and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTNn-WMvNU Whalepool Live Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Trading Stream 24/7/365

thanks.

Maybe I am being naive but wouldn't he have stood to make more had he sold OTC when BTC was at 20K?

it doesn't work like this .

Keep in mind that the media can make up whatever FUD bullshit they want and put it out there, and the public has no choice but to accept it at face value...

Domestic enemies. I had to correct it .

[gembitz]

Not to feed Torque's conspiracy theories but it does seem rather odd that the trustee would dump on exchanges and not do a deal OTC considering the numbers involved.
I am sure he would have got a better deal for his BTC rather than crashing the market like this?
Almost seems like a deliberate attempt to dampen the market yet again. /tinfoil hat/

Why wouldn't you want to feed my conspiracy theories? Lol  

No but seriously, are people really buying that this trustee was able to time the top of the market perfectly at $20k, and sell that much bitcoin on exchange risking mega slippage instead of just doing a public OTC auction/private sale?

Orly? There are many wealthy individual and institutional investors that would probably jump at the chance to purchase that much bitcoin off-exchange.

Keep in mind that the media can make up whatever FUD bullshit they want and put it out there, and the public has no choice but to accept it at face value...

oh that Mark Kerpeles(japan) orchestrated the whole pump one and two..wouldn't surprise me the fat turkey is the mastermind behind the whole shahbang :-D haha

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I prefer to know that it’s a manipulated dump by one person or group of people. It just means that it’s all false & eventually the market will absorb the effects & carry on trucking.