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[JayJuanGee]

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise.  

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   .  

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.

Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.   Even the whales don't really know, even though they have better ability to know what they are going to do and what kind of effect what they are going to do might have on the price, but they do not know anything for sure, either.

 On a personal level, you merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???  And that should not involve setting up an auto-suicide machine.   

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[Rosewater Foundation]

Anyone thinking this is the top is in for a surprise. 

because it was the top..

Bahahaha.  It’s still not the top !   . 

I'm trying to decide if you are one of the whales that knows things before they happen. Don't mind me.

What's your definition of a whale?

Going short and having enough coins to make it happen.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.  You merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???

I'm learning to prepare. But there are sorcerers. Don't kid your selfie.

[jbreher]

I panic sold some at $13,500 and $10,500 on the way down. I FOMOed back in at $6500 and $8700 on the way back up.

Well played. Cheers!

[Dakustaking76]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

[jbreher]

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

[JayJuanGee]

Stop looking for a sorcerer, there are none.  You merely have to pee pare ur selfie for both directions.  HELROW???

I'm learning to prepare. But there are sorcerers. Don't kid your selfie.

Ok.  fair enough.. deny and use my own phraseology against me... .O.k  I can deal with that.

Let me see if I can reframe this matter, then?

I think that part of my point is that there is nothing wrong with brainstorming with others, and I believe that this forum can prove quite useful in that regard. 

So each of us has differing strategies, but ultimately you have to find a strategy that is tailored for yourself, and there seems to be a lot that Hairy berry is not telling you.  Sure, he panic sold and panic bought at two points that he determined pretty decent odds of which direction the price was going.  His gut instincts seemed to have paid off pretty well, but the fact that he is using the term "panic" buy/sell shows that even he recognizes that he was having to pull some last ditch measures and to kind of change his plans along the way.  So there is a bit of devil in the details and gut reaction and gambling involved in such a strategy.

O..k.  Sure, the more experience you have buying and selling, then the more that you are going to be able to make those kinds of hairy berry plays, and from what I recall, Hairy was not even playing with all of his holdings, but instead a decent portion.. .maybe 30%-40% or something?  Maybe you can clarify this Hairy Berry... but anyhow, he is not playing balls to the walls, and he is also not outlining all of the factors that's triggering him to make his seat of the pants (panic) decision, which by pure definition seems to have been a bit unplanned, ballparking and maybe even throwing darts at a board... wholy shit, Hairy!!!!!!!   

[TERA2]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

[HairyMaclairy]

I’m not a whale.   I joined too late, got involved in December 2013.  I believe in confirmed trends and not much else. I trade bitcoin very defensively so I only sold at most half my holdings and was watching to make sure the price did not break back up again. When it started breaking back up, I bought back in to cover my position.  

I don’t believe that whales can manipulate the price more than temporarily.  They can dump or buy at key inflection points but they are playing into what the market already believes.  And if you watch the order books you can sometimes see them signal with ghost walls before a pump / dump.  

As for what’s happening right now, market sentiment is currently balanced with a slight bearish lean and continuing to slowly degrade.  I’m not delighted about it but need to accept it.

[Dakustaking76]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

[Biodom]

...The prices are outrageously high.

By what measure?
It is not like there is a P/E or anything like that.
Another three-fourfold increase in difficulty (and it is coming maybe in a few mo due to new rumored miners) and mining would be roughly at breakeven.

[HairyMaclairy]

Some good news:  owner of the ASIC Boost patent has licensed it to the Blockchain Defensive Licence. 

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/there-bitcoin-patent-war-going-initiative-could-end-it/

[JayJuanGee]

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim.  This subject matter is completely about the absurdities of that nutjob craig wright, and i could give a ratt's ass about his person...

He made a stupid ass claim that he is satoshi, and he did not provide evidence or logic to support such claim, and then some people, including searing, apparently, still believe that the claim could be true...

so don't be trying to make this some kind of claim about what I think... about who could be or could not be satoshi.. because I could care less who is satoshi and he is likely dead for all intents and purposes... and this stupid ass imposture craig wright is trying to take advantage of a vacuum by inserting his slimy dishonest mug into the space.. while you sit around supporting him by distracting from the situation with some kind of lame attempt to "impersonalize' the argument and to distract from what is going on... just like you do with the bcash nonsense...

oh wait,? they are all part of the same camp and if you can spread fud about craig wright being satoshi, then maybe you can get some dumbass newbes to buy some of your shitcoins, too? 

[JayJuanGee]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

The good information is that the bearwhales  are going to attempt to shake as many weak hands as they can... and if they can get the price to go down, then they are going to do it.. they are going to do it and do it and do it and do it, until they do not have a choice, and at that point the price is going to go up.  So, yeah, if they can shake you and Rosewater, and BMB and a few others, then they gonna do it... and sometimes it is not clear if they can do it but they are going to keep trying until they do not have a choice and the price goes up, after all the weak hands are weeded out and confidence is lost.. and it is seeming that we are not quite there (ready for up), yet.

[bluebits]

its a trap its a trap its a trap 12K-14K then continue multi year bear market.

How much time is left on the clock for this? This was the super kitty bounce, 2-3 more weeks?

[jonoiv]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

[jbreher]

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim. 

Bullshit. It is part and parcel of the claim you are making. Shall I requote your scrawlings which are clearly discernable above?

seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Those are your words, bucko. Not mine. So again I ask: what makes you claim that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

[JayJuanGee]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

[jonoiv]

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.

So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

[JayJuanGee]

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim. 

Bullshit. It is part and parcel of the claim you are making. Shall I requote your scrawlings which are clearly discernable above?

I am telling your that I am not making any such claims, so it does not matter what you can quote, .... you are attempting to distract with nonsense.

seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Those are your words, bucko. Not mine. So again I ask: what makes you claim that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Get the fuck out of here.  I already responded... so you repeating with the same questions that I already answered.

Can you find some other funzies?

Are your orders not filling fast enough, and you are trying to find a new hobby to spread more nonsense and to distract from claims and to assert that peeps (yours truly) is claiming something that is not being claimed?   Helrow goofy bear.