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March 04, 2018, 04:19:20 AM

Trying to do tax planning. I have thousands of trades across a dozen exchanges in different countries in all sorts of alts.  I am really struggling to figure it out so good fucking luck to the tax authority.  It would take a CPA 3 months.   I’m just going to have to make a best efforts estimate.  Half the exchanges don’t even export trade records in .csv.  Plus miner fees and dust lost in web wallets etc.  Total mess.  

Just a general question: why would someone make thousands of trades per year?
IMHO, it is self defeating in eventuality.
Personally, when I over trade, it a signal that I am about to lose a lot of money (for me).
In happened in 2000-2001 just before I had losses in 2002.
One year i had about a thou trades. It took me about three weeks to figure it all out on Turbotax.
Some trades looked really stupid when I looked at the totality of it all.
After that-no more of that nonsense.
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March 04, 2018, 04:25:48 AM

Hi to all experts Smiley anyone knows about? When the altcoins go to the moon again?

Tuesday, 3:45 GMT
Thanks hehez because i loss a lot of money i bought at the top and now it dump  Sad
Dont sell the coin you have to avoid losses. And continue to invest until you have extra money to gain much higher income when value starts to moon.

This is proof that I am bring quality to the thread.

Just sayin'.

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March 04, 2018, 04:33:45 AM

And what the fuck is happening to the price?

Did Bob announce he was setting asks for a few hundred 💯 BTC at 12.5 again?  I don't remember seeing that!

This dip is invalid.

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March 04, 2018, 04:34:03 AM

The overwhelming bullishness in the current market is concerning.
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The more I look at this the less I like it...that last wave just dosent make sense..the spacing at the February dip is incorrect. It really lends some more credence to what I have been seeing, that dip changed the trend line. Seems like we are headed back to the 11.5k battlefield. #btfd



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Everyone seems to prefer this chart. 

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March 04, 2018, 05:25:47 AM

Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....

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March 04, 2018, 05:33:48 AM

The more I look at this the less I like it...that last wave just dosent make sense..the spacing at the February dip is incorrect. It really lends some more credence to what I have been seeing, that dip changed the trend line. Seems like we are headed back to the 11.5k battlefield. #btfd



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Everyone seems to prefer this chart. 



I prefer this one because it's going up.

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March 04, 2018, 05:42:42 AM

Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....



Cut that out.  Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
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March 04, 2018, 05:43:38 AM

Trying to do tax planning. I have thousands of trades across a dozen exchanges in different countries in all sorts of alts.  I am really struggling to figure it out so good fucking luck to the tax authority.  It would take a CPA 3 months.   I’m just going to have to make a best efforts estimate.  Half the exchanges don’t even export trade records in .csv.  Plus miner fees and dust lost in web wallets etc.  Total mess.  

Just a general question: why would someone make thousands of trades per year?
IMHO, it is self defeating in eventuality.
Personally, when I over trade, it a signal that I am about to lose a lot of money (for me).
In happened in 2000-2001 just before I had losses in 2002.
One year i had about a thou trades. It took me about three weeks to figure it all out on Turbotax.
Some trades looked really stupid when I looked at the totality of it all.
After that-no more of that nonsense.


Over a thousand trades per year means dozens of trades a week. At that frequency, it's likely you are getting thrashed by small fluctuations. But the real money to be made is putting on positions into substantial opportunities: major trend changes, double bottoms, head-and-shoulders, capitulation, etc. Then hodling for a long swing (long or short). And that supports a more detached trading psychology.
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March 04, 2018, 05:57:39 AM



Downtrend has formed
RSI <50
Stoch in the oversold area but still plug and not cross
The MACD is shifting in a downward direction, showing no sign of crossing
=> continue to fall to 11k and 11.6k is the need to pass.

Nailed it.

+1 WOsMerit
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Last edit: March 04, 2018, 06:21:29 AM by HairyMaclairy

Trying to do tax planning. I have thousands of trades across a dozen exchanges in different countries in all sorts of alts.  I am really struggling to figure it out so good fucking luck to the tax authority.  It would take a CPA 3 months.   I’m just going to have to make a best efforts estimate.  Half the exchanges don’t even export trade records in .csv.  Plus miner fees and dust lost in web wallets etc.  Total mess.  

Just a general question: why would someone make thousands of trades per year?
IMHO, it is self defeating in eventuality.
Personally, when I over trade, it a signal that I am about to lose a lot of money (for me).
In happened in 2000-2001 just before I had losses in 2002.
One year i had about a thou trades. It took me about three weeks to figure it all out on Turbotax.
Some trades looked really stupid when I looked at the totality of it all.
After that-no more of that nonsense.


Over a thousand trades per year means dozens of trades a week. At that frequency, it's likely you are getting thrashed by small fluctuations. But the real money to be made is putting on positions into substantial opportunities: major trend changes, double bottoms, head-and-shoulders, capitulation, etc. Then hodling for a long swing (long or short). And that supports a more detached trading psychology.

I don’t buy and hold shitcoins.  5 hours is a long term hold for a shitcoin. On average, I profit on shitcoins.  Sometimes I make mistakes but I cut them the moment they show weakness.  Example:  I follow Charlie Lee on twitter and bought Nano when his tweet came out.  I exited with a 5% profit.  It ended going a lot higher but I’m not ashamed to take a small profit immediately. 

On the other hand I have bitcoin I bought 4 years ago and haven’t touched.  Different asset classes, different trading strategies.  
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March 04, 2018, 06:17:20 AM



How long price of cryptos declining? I can't imagine hopefully it grows up again.

As per the graph price now was fluctuates into $9K - $11K
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March 04, 2018, 06:36:58 AM

Hi to all experts Smiley anyone knows about? When the altcoins go to the moon again?

Steller up 12%. Not 🌝 though.
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March 04, 2018, 07:31:33 AM

Hi to all experts Smiley anyone knows about? When the altcoins go to the moon again?

Steller up 12%. Not 🌝 though.

Well, Stellar has been falling steadily for weeks now.

Even with this 12% spike it´s still deep in the red Wink

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March 04, 2018, 08:45:02 AM

Its just temporarily testing that channel it broke out of in November and fell back into in January, before eventually falling below.

This already happened with a smaller channel above. There are several nested blowouts.

After the next crash, it'll spend 1-2 years testing the original slow channel from 2015-2016. At the next halvening it'll either breakout into the next bull market or fall below this channel to the final fail or least the longest bear market weve ever seen.
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I don't think citizens should be allowed to have guns.

I say this as a gun owner, so I am aware this could seem hypocritical. But the more I look at all of the solutions to the gun debate, the more I feel the only long term solution is to begin the process of removing them.
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March 04, 2018, 08:58:51 AM

If banning guns to save thousands lives in over publicized media events is so importnt to sacrifice our basic freedoms then I think we must also ban cars and improper medicine which is killing millions of people.
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Hi to all experts Smiley anyone knows about? When the altcoins go to the moon again?

Tuesday, 3:45 GMT

Are you sure? My friend said it was Tuesday 3:47 GMT.
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March 04, 2018, 09:08:22 AM

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I don't think citizens should be allowed to have guns.

I say this as a gun owner, so I am aware this could seem hypocritical. But the more I look at all of the solutions to the gun debate, the more I feel the only long term solution is to begin the process of removing them.

Which, for the billionth time, is a useless opinion without explaining how.
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Do you guys feel you are missing out by not being allowed RPGs?  Isn’t that a violation of your second amendment rights?  How are you going to protect yourself against black helicopters?
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