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March 10, 2018, 06:01:24 AM

Does anyone have a link to the Kraken statement that says coins were sold on Kraken?  

I have seen this but this doesn’t say that the coins were sold on Kraken - it suggests Kraken was completely unaware.  



Creditors report shown below.  There is no mention of whether the coins were sold on or off exchange.



I’m not convinced the coins were sold on exchange. The Mt Gox transfers are not linked to any known exchange account afaik.    I am starting to think the coins were sold OTC and this is all a bullshit FUD campaign.
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Seems bitcoin wants to party tonight.
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March 10, 2018, 06:23:47 AM

why did we stop after 2 nukes again?
wat

Smug ass Nipponese legal shenanigans are pissing me right the fuck off.

It's possible the man just didn't realize the carnage he was unleashing.

Yes.  After the fifth sale I image the pattern was just starting to emerge for him.
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March 10, 2018, 06:58:47 AM

I'm guessing Hanlon's razor in a big way. Or possibly Heinlein's Razor if you want to get conspiratorial.
I grew up with most/all of Robert A. Heinlein's  written output.

I particularly enjoyed The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
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March 10, 2018, 07:07:27 AM

Buying stopped at 9500... looked like free run to 10k though...maybe some resistance at 9550...
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March 10, 2018, 07:13:35 AM

We basically have the rest of 2018 to play around in this price zone. Nothing is lost yet; from my perspective it is a waiting game while all clever boys and girls continue to build the crypto infrastructure.

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March 10, 2018, 07:30:56 AM

Neo is down for maintenance again:   https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@kjnk/neo-s-blockchain-goes-under-maintenance-as-blockchain-stalls-again
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March 10, 2018, 07:31:15 AM

We basically have the rest of 2018 to play around in this price zone. Nothing is lost yet; from my perspective it is a waiting game while all clever boys and girls continue to build the crypto infrastructure.



Well maybe Ethereum or Ripple will overtake BTC then...
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NEO... I believe!
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March 10, 2018, 07:36:34 AM

No way could I ever work for somebody else now, been out on my own even without bitcoin for 10 years. I remember being 19/20 & being told to put the kettle on for an office full of people.
I remember being 5/10 minutes late for work a bunch of times & panicking about it.
 
I’d ratter die than go back to that kind of humiliating existence.

Me too. Been job-free for 42 years now.

I guess I'm lucky because my father was self-employed for as long as I can remember and so I wasn't brainwashed with the idea of a "regular job" since early childhood.
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When I was in kindergarten I was shown watercress growing wild in a creek in what is now a drained park in Toronto. I filled a 4 quart basket with cress and stopped by at the grocery store on my way home. I asked the owner if he wanted to sell it in his store.

He tasted it, remarked on its freshness (I just picked it!), divided it into 4 bunches held together with rubber bands, and said he'd give me 5 cents for 2 bunches. I got my first arithmetic lesson when he took 2 bunches and gave me a nickel and then repeated it, telling me I had 10 cents. I promptly spent half of it on candy, 3 for a penny of this, 4 for a penny of that.

When I got home, my parents were concerned about where I got the remaining nickel and the candy. When I told them, they were so proud of me, bringing home the bacon so to speak.

Later that day I went back for more candy and learned 2 more lessons. First I learned the hard way about spending your earnings too soon. Then when I saw only 3 bunches remaining with a price of 10 cents per bunch, I realized he had paid for the whole lot with just one sale and had 3 more to go.

That was my biggest lesson... retail markup and profit.
I originally wanted to go the traditional "job" route to make absolutely sure that I'll have enough money to be financially independent for the rest of my life before I hit 40 (by getting a very high paying Math/Tech related job and investing virtually everything), since I've figured out quite early in school that I just couldn't deal with a predefined lifestyle.

Somehow managed to get there way before that and the only jobs I've ever had were as a research assistant at university, which were less of a job and more of an interesting learning experience to me. Going full capitalist in online games as a kid helped, taught me a lot of valuable skills and made me some decent starter money on top of future scholarships.

Then Bitcorns came around and just obliterated the need of a job under a massive snowball.

It's quite interesting how quickly things went from "what the fuck am I doing I'm about to lose everything" to shrugging off massive drops in net worth.
Glad I took the plunge, not sure if I would have if I didn't know that I could easily score a >200k p.a. job though, despite having analyzed financial markets very carefully and concluding quite early on that Bitcorn is the holy grail of finance.
It's also quite interesting how the fear of making a wrong move diminishes as the portfolio grows, although I wonder if that's due to confidence from past successes or just because of having the money to burn.
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March 10, 2018, 07:42:27 AM
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The fact that bitcoin is sound money trumps everything; adoption, payment networks, umwelts, all these buzzwords newcomers bandy.
This shit is real money and it will absorb all the capital there is, with or without us.

This illustrates how sound bitcoin is as money.




It was posted earlier on, but the more people see it the better.
The bottom right corner should have a lambo with a shopping cart inside of it for accuracy.
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March 10, 2018, 08:10:33 AM

Then Bitcorns came around and just obliterated the need of a job under a massive snowball.

 Cheesy look at you - here i fixed it for you "snowball-system"

so basically you're just a useless member of society and hoping to sell your bunch of 0 and 1s for more than what you've paid for
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March 10, 2018, 08:23:13 AM

You must be one of those passive agressive bcash lol types. /ignored
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March 10, 2018, 08:27:23 AM

so basically you're just a useless member of society and hoping to sell your bunch of 0 and 1s for more than what you've paid for

Fuck society. I did not came in the world to serve others. And yes, bitcoin is about money.

Having said that, this may be interesting:

‘Bitcoin Misery Index’ - Trading Tool from Wall Street Analyst. When the bitcoin misery index is at ‘misery’ (below 27), bitcoin sees the best 12-month performance. The Bitcoin index is currently 18.8



https://captainaltcoin.com/wall-street-analyst-develops-bitcoin-misery-index-as-a-trading-tool-for-investors/


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March 10, 2018, 08:29:58 AM

We basically have the rest of 2018 to play around in this price zone. Nothing is lost yet; from my perspective it is a waiting game while all clever boys and girls continue to build the crypto infrastructure.



Well maybe Ethereum or Ripple will overtake BTC then...

lol, outright scams ain´t gonna overtake btc. what is the real life use case for the ripple scam coin? when ripple labs rolled out a new mobile service for Santander bank customers, they did not even use their own coin, they integrated Apple Pay..  Cheesy.  what is the real life use case for eth? smart contracts? scientists looked at the existing smart contracts and found just a few bugs... 34 000 bugs.... LOL.


https://www.coindesk.com/santander-uk-ripple-payment-app/
https://www.cryptoground.com/article/over-34000-ethereum-smart-contracts-vulnerable
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March 10, 2018, 08:36:21 AM

Fuck society. I did not came in the world to serve others. And yes, bitcoin is about money.

someone has to work for your food and shelter, well but maybe you're lucky and find some idiot to do it for you
ah and i forgot, in the end, whenever that may be, you all want to cash out to that filthy fiat

what is the real life use case for

BTC? i thought we just HODL it to the moon without spending it?
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March 10, 2018, 08:37:11 AM

We basically have the rest of 2018 to play around in this price zone. Nothing is lost yet; from my perspective it is a waiting game while all clever boys and girls continue to build the crypto infrastructure.



Well maybe Ethereum or Ripple will overtake BTC then...

lol, outright scams ain´t gonna overtake btc. what is the real life use case for the ripple scam coin? when ripple labs rolled out a new mobile service for Santander bank customers, they did not even use their own coin, they integrated Apple Pay..  Cheesy.  what is the real life use case for eth? smart contracts? scientists looked at the existing smart contracts and found just a few bugs... 34 000 bugs.... LOL.


https://www.coindesk.com/santander-uk-ripple-payment-app/
https://www.cryptoground.com/article/over-34000-ethereum-smart-contracts-vulnerable
Decentralized apps dude. 😎
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March 10, 2018, 08:50:46 AM

Fuck society. I did not came in the world to serve others. And yes, bitcoin is about money.

someone has to work for your food and shelter, well but maybe you're lucky and find some idiot to do it for you
ah and i forgot, in the end, whenever that may be, you all want to cash out to that filthy fiat

You don't get voluntary exchange, right? You must be one of those geniuses looking for free lunches and gibs magically produced by "society".
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I was playing around with graphs (recently discovered SMA lines) when I accidentally stumbled upon these graphs.
Comparing 2013, 2014 and 2018 on the weekly charts.

Comparing those it seems that compared to 2014 we did bounce of the SMA weekly like in 2013.
In 2014 we just went through it without bouncing on it.

That's why I think we are more in 2013 scenario than in a 2014 scenario.

OK past performance is not indicator for future performance and we could still slide through it,  but what do you think.

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March 10, 2018, 09:09:47 AM

I was playing around with graphs (recently discovered SMA lines) when I accidentally stumbled upon these graphs.
Comparing 2013, 2014 and 2018 on the weekly charts.

Comparing those it seems that compared to 2014 we did bounce of the SMA weekly like in 2013.
In 2014 we just went through it without bouncing on it.

That's why I think we are more in 2013 scenario than in a 2014 scenario.

OK past performance is not indicator for future performance and we could still slide through it,  but what do you think.


2018 looks like it found a "base" and is moving back up.  But that's my opinion.

My thoughts are the following: We have many more ADOPTERS who have come to the space and the number of adopters increases daily. Those adopters bring "capital" with them which increases "liquidity" in the space to absorb "supply" and therefore increase "demand." So, I'm leaning more towards us currently being in a Wyckoff Accumulation Schematic and NOT DISTRIBUTION.

Just WAY TO MANY ADOPTERS now (and growing) compared to 2014.

Forcing the price down even lower brings in more competition for cheap coins IF THE INTENT of the composite group(s) is to accumulate cheap coins.

Too many people are ITCHING to buy coins "on the cheap." I really don't see the Composite Group allowing weak hands to get back in and make a profit by dropping the price much lower. Doesn't sound logical. The only logic I can see in this is IF they intend on dropping bitcoin for another crypto currency, such as BCH, ZEN, DASH, XMR or ZEC; which I find unlikely.



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