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March 07, 2018, 06:33:54 AM

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim.  This subject matter is completely about the absurdities of that nutjob craig wright, and i could give a ratt's ass about his person...

He made a stupid ass claim that he is satoshi, and he did not provide evidence or logic to support such claim, and then some people, including searing, apparently, still believe that the claim could be true...

so don't be trying to make this some kind of claim about what I think... about who could be or could not be satoshi.. because I could care less who is satoshi and he is likely dead for all intents and purposes... and this stupid ass imposture craig wright is trying to take advantage of a vacuum by inserting his slimy dishonest mug into the space.. while you sit around supporting him by distracting from the situation with some kind of lame attempt to "impersonalize' the argument and to distract from what is going on... just like you do with the bcash nonsense...

oh wait,? they are all part of the same camp and if you can spread fud about craig wright being satoshi, then maybe you can get some dumbass newbes to buy some of your shitcoins, too? 
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March 07, 2018, 06:39:20 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information

The good information is that the bearwhales  are going to attempt to shake as many weak hands as they can... and if they can get the price to go down, then they are going to do it.. they are going to do it and do it and do it and do it, until they do not have a choice, and at that point the price is going to go up.  So, yeah, if they can shake you and Rosewater, and BMB and a few others, then they gonna do it... and sometimes it is not clear if they can do it but they are going to keep trying until they do not have a choice and the price goes up, after all the weak hands are weeded out and confidence is lost.. and it is seeming that we are not quite there (ready for up), yet.
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March 07, 2018, 06:47:29 AM

its a trap its a trap its a trap 12K-14K then continue multi year bear market.

How much time is left on the clock for this? This was the super kitty bounce, 2-3 more weeks?
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March 07, 2018, 06:52:27 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?
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March 07, 2018, 06:53:35 AM

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim. 

Bullshit. It is part and parcel of the claim you are making. Shall I requote your scrawlings which are clearly discernable above?

seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Those are your words, bucko. Not mine. So again I ask: what makes you claim that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?
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March 07, 2018, 06:54:57 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.
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March 07, 2018, 06:58:40 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.
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March 07, 2018, 06:59:18 AM

<person>  seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Just as a question, why do you think that B follows A?

<blah, blah, blah>

Sorry for the redaction, but your reply had nothing to do with my question. You'll note that I de-personified the inquiry, yet you seem to be determined to talk about CSW.

Why do you think that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Don't be ridiculous.  I am making no such claim. 

Bullshit. It is part and parcel of the claim you are making. Shall I requote your scrawlings which are clearly discernable above?


I am telling your that I am not making any such claims, so it does not matter what you can quote, .... you are attempting to distract with nonsense.



seems to have a lot of anger, which is also inconsistent with someone who has truly invented a paradigm changing system....

Those are your words, bucko. Not mine. So again I ask: what makes you claim that angry people don't invent paradigm changing systems?

Get the fuck out of here.  I already responded... so you repeating with the same questions that I already answered.

Can you find some other funzies?

Are your orders not filling fast enough, and you are trying to find a new hobby to spread more nonsense and to distract from claims and to assert that peeps (yours truly) is claiming something that is not being claimed?   Helrow goofy bear.   Roll Eyes Tongue
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March 07, 2018, 07:00:52 AM

...The prices are outrageously high.

By what measure?
It is not like there is a P/E or anything like that.
Another three-fourfold increase in difficulty (and it is coming maybe in a few mo due to new rumored miners) and mining would be roughly at breakeven.

By the measure that last time I looked prices were like $500

What does mining have to do with anything?
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March 07, 2018, 07:05:44 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

"Probably will," that is a pretty fucking strong statement.

To me, "probably will" means greater than 50% odds, and I will ballpark assert my doubts that you have greater than 30% odds on $3k coming true in this particular correction.  

We already had a 70% correction down from $19,666 to $5,920... so you believe that there is a decent chance of eeking out an additional 15% to bring us to 85% of $3k, but we are going to have to break several areas of support before that even becomes a reasonable proposition... no?

First of all getting below $10k, then every $1k lower is going to pose some support that needs to be broken through... and perhaps if we get below the support at $7,500 then there would be a decent shot at $5k... but we gotta past a few support areas first, so you seem to be quite premature with your "probably will" assertion...

And sure I have seen your FUDster bearish (and wrong) proclamations in this thread past, so maybe you will get lucky this time.. perhaps, perhaps, but perhaps not, too....?    The odds seem to be pretty heavy against your asserted "probably will" expectations (even assuming that you even believe it yourself?).   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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March 07, 2018, 07:06:31 AM

...The prices are outrageously high.

By what measure?
It is not like there is a P/E or anything like that.
Another three-fourfold increase in difficulty (and it is coming maybe in a few mo due to new rumored miners) and mining would be roughly at breakeven.


miners mined at a loss for 3 years.  

the anonymity of mining even at a loss is worth a lot to some people.  
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March 07, 2018, 07:12:34 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

Probably will, that is a pretty fucking strong statement.

To me, "probably will" means greater than 50% odds, and I will ballpark assert my doubts that you have greater than 30% odds on $3k coming true in this particular correction.  We already had 70%... so you believe that there is a decent chance of eeking out an additional 15% to bring us to 85%, but we are going to have to break several areas of support first... first of all getting below $10k, then every $1k lower is going to pose some support... and perhaps if we get below the support at $7,500 then there would be a decent shot at $5k... but we gotta get there first, so you seem to be quite premature with your "probably will" assertion... and sure I have seen your FUDster bearish (and wrong) proclamations in the past, so maybe you will get lucky this time, but the odds seem to be pretty heavy against your asserted "probably will" expectations (if you even believe it yourself?).

keep holding then,  i couldn't care less what happens to the price, i will react as best I can to the changes.  and "probably will " is based on bitcoins history.

and youre one of the biggest FUDsters there is.  you were apparently a bag holder for 3.5 years.



 
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March 07, 2018, 07:20:11 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??

What else, they are profit taking because maybe they need to take their wives out somewhere fancy for a change. Or maybe some Bitcoin rich basement dwellers believe that they need to rent an apartment to be "away from mom". Hahaha.

But seriously, taking profits. It is normal and they might be buying back soon.
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March 07, 2018, 07:20:22 AM

Can someone explain Why the fuck were going lower again


Not saying big whales selling...


But Why are they selling are they dumb??? Keeping the price down is
Also bad for them Why cash out on this price ??
What do you mean keeping prices "Down"? The prices are outrageously high.


So this actual price is high for you? Come on your lying to your self we reached $20k dollars
Why keep the price down again this is the 3 ore 4 time we reached €9.5k And then again down..

I want to know Why with good information


human emotion, greed & fear mainly with some help from manipulation... before the $20k peak the last was in 2013 with new ATH of $1200 the low $160, the same year the previous was $260 with $40 lows.  

a low of 15% of the ATH happens frequently.  Now tell me why it can't hit 3k?

Just because it can hit $3k does not mean that it will.

but it probably will.

Probably will, that is a pretty fucking strong statement.

To me, "probably will" means greater than 50% odds, and I will ballpark assert my doubts that you have greater than 30% odds on $3k coming true in this particular correction.  We already had 70%... so you believe that there is a decent chance of eeking out an additional 15% to bring us to 85%, but we are going to have to break several areas of support first... first of all getting below $10k, then every $1k lower is going to pose some support... and perhaps if we get below the support at $7,500 then there would be a decent shot at $5k... but we gotta get there first, so you seem to be quite premature with your "probably will" assertion... and sure I have seen your FUDster bearish (and wrong) proclamations in the past, so maybe you will get lucky this time, but the odds seem to be pretty heavy against your asserted "probably will" expectations (if you even believe it yourself?).

keep holding then,  i couldn't care less what happens to the price, i will react as best I can to the changes.  and "probably will " is based on bitcoins history.

and youre one of the biggest FUDsters there is.  you were apparently a bag holder for 3.5 years.

Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...
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Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...


Which coins USD or BTC?
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Accumulating (whenever possible) and holding (until proven worong) long term is my strategy. I don't blame traders though, we need them. But if I understood what Bitcoin is about I will not sell my BTC so easily. I feel privileged to own full bitcoins, not decimals, when there is still so much people who would like to buy 1 and they can't afford even 0.1 I know there is speculation and such but I believe in what Bitcoin can do for my financial integrity.
I will never be able to transfer wealth to somebody else as I am able to do now if Bitcoin fails (don't start telling me about other coins, I know them).
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Get the fuck out of here.

You have not made any kind of meaningful response except for implying that we are in a early 2014 rather than an early 2013 type of situation, and you have not even stated that, so I am giving you goofball FUD spreader the benefit of the doubt about what you are claiming exactly beyond mere proclamations.

Regarding my personal strategy, I have not been shy of sharing it through my more than 4 years in bitcoin as I have employed the strategy and how I have tweaked the strategy over the years.

So get the fuck out of here with your assertion that I am merely blindly holding or that I am a bag holder...

Consider the whole matter in context, and I would assert that blindly following some nonsense like your assertion is likely going to cause people to sacrifice coins...


Which coins USD or BTC?

Stop pursuing technical one-liner interrogations, and attempting to imply that you are some kind of all-knowing expert who only speaks in conclusions.  Why don't your respond to what I am saying, and provide some substance, but instead you want to act as if you know something and you don't know shit. 

You should well realize that if people are investing then they are trying to maximize their Bitcoins, so of course, they sell bitcoins in order to acquire more bitcoins.  But whatever, you are not really  wanting to engage in any kind of meaningful discussion except for your supposed insightful hopium driven prediction that bitcoin "probably will" drop to $3k in the near future, right?
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March 07, 2018, 07:57:23 AM

Go Tim Draper, go.
"We haven't even found the tip of the ice berg", "This is the most exited I have ever been as an investor, and I was right there at the beginning of the Internet"

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/971151947880419331
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Go Tim Draper, go.
"We haven't even found the tip of the ice berg", "This is the most exited I have ever been as an investor, and I was right there at the beginning of the Internet"

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/971151947880419331

Yet we can't even break 12k and I don't see this changing anytime soon.

When traders are taking their profits each time we reach 12k how should we ever exceed 12k?
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Go Tim Draper, go.
"We haven't even found the tip of the ice berg", "This is the most exited I have ever been as an investor, and I was right there at the beginning of the Internet"

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/971151947880419331

Yet we can't even break 12k and I don't see this changing anytime soon.

When traders are taking their profits each time we reach 12k how should we ever exceed 12k?

Maybe you need to zoom out a little bit to understand context?
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